Schuylaar's Sesh - Bowe Bergdahl

[UncleBuck]

So since tripling the amount of money we spent while the VA population actually has decreased by millions hasn't seemed to work. Let's quadruple it then, or more more MOAR.

how do you propose we get more doctors in there?

cut all funding and just let the magic of the free market take care of things?

 

[ginwilly]

and the solution is?

Some serious bureaucratic reduction from the top levels down. There people paid to push papers around during an electronic world and people hired to watch them to make sure the papers get pushed.

I would also move the workers to a 401K type match instead of the present public union retirement system that is bankrupting cities across the US.

 

[UncleBuck]

Some serious bureaucratic reduction from the top levels down. There people paid to push papers around during an electronic world and people hired to watch them to make sure the papers get pushed.

I would also move the workers to a 401K type match instead of the present public union retirement system that is bankrupting cities across the US.

meanwhile there is still a doctor shortage for the vets.

 

[ginwilly]

the cause?

you mean tens of thousands of vets from a needless war in iraq, plus the natural march of time on our older vets?

let's hire more doctors and update their 1985 technology with republican rhetoric.

The more you type, the less informed you look.

Budget increases at the VA have come as the total number of veterans is decreasing due primarily to the deaths of aging World War II participants.

According to figures from the Office of Management and Budget, funding for medical care, which composes 40 percent of the VA's annual budget, increased 193 percent from 2001 to 2013.

During the same period, the overall veterans' population declined by 4.3 million, Investor's Business Daily reported.

Tal Coley, senior policy analyst with Concerned Veterans of America, agrees that the current problems at VA hospitals are not due to budgetary skimping.

"The department has experienced budgetary increases since 2006, yet it continues to fail to meet its own goals. And as the VA's performance has failed to meet basic standards, nobody has been held accountable — making it nearly impossible to change VA's calcified culture," Coley said in a statement.

According to the OMB, the VA budget increased in real terms from $45 billion in fiscal 2001 to $150.7 billion in fiscal 2014. Only the Department of Defense experienced a larger increase. And from 2008 to 2012, per-patient spending at the VA climbed 27 percent.

Nevertheless, Democrats continue to cite inadequate funding as the source of the ongoing VA scandal.

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/US/VA-Veterans-Affairs-Budget-wait-lists/2014/05/23/id/573138#ixzz34kMbmqZW

 

[schuylaar]

Some serious bureaucratic reduction from the top levels down. There people paid to push papers around during an electronic world and people hired to watch them to make sure the papers get pushed.

I would also move the workers to a 401K type match instead of the present public union retirement system that is bankrupting cities across the US.

you have my vote, now let's get it done!

 

[ginwilly]

you have my vote, now let's get it done!

Would be nice, if anyone deserves our attention it's vets. In our present climate of partisanship, I don't see anything getting done other than more of the same.

 

[schuylaar]

Would be nice, if anyone deserves our attention it's vets. In our present climate of partisanship, I don't see anything getting done other than more of the same.

but who do you think the stumbling block is?

the self-proclaimed "party of no".

 

[ginwilly]

but who do you think the stumbling block is?

the self-proclaimed "party of no".

but I want them to say no to more stupidity. I'm glad they block bad ideas that only cost money and solve no issues.

Right now the pubs could have a plan to solve all issues, I know they don't but say they did, and Harry Reid wouldn't even allow it on the floor for a vote. It's poison in DC right now and if we continually blame "sides", the poison will only perpetuate. It's basic game theory.

 

[schuylaar]

but I want them to say no to more stupidity. I'm glad they block bad ideas that only cost money and solve no issues.

Right now the pubs could have a plan to solve all issues, I know they don't but say they did, and Harry Reid wouldn't even allow it on the floor for a vote. It's poison in DC right now and if we continually blame "sides", the poison will only perpetuate. It's basic game theory.

well, you can't add amendments that have nothing to do with the bill and think it's gonna go through.

 

[ginwilly]

well, you can't add amendments that have nothing to do with the bill and think it's gonna go through.

You can't possibly defend the job Harry Reid has done. He simply refuses to bring bills to the floor for vote with an R as the sponsor. It's all political right now. Maybe it always has and I'm finally noticing, but I don't ever remember this.

 

[schuylaar]

You can't possibly defend the job Harry Reid has done. He simply refuses to bring bills to the floor for vote with an R as the sponsor. It's all political right now. Maybe it always has and I'm finally noticing, but I don't ever remember this.

the bill was ready to go but at the last minute the R's added..you know the rest and it's not harry reid's fault.

 

[AlecTheGardener]

the cause?

you mean tens of thousands of vets from a needless war in iraq, plus the natural march of time on our older vets?

let's hire more doctors and update their 1985 technology with republican rhetoric.

These issues plus a very poorly constructed administration system. The sheer amount of humanity that works for the VHA is so large that it lacks mobility when it needs to deal with a problem.

They have an ass load of patients.

The larger an element becomes the more difficult to adapt to new problems, slow moving.

It took five weeks for the VHA to notify my ombudsman that they received my packet of paperwork. It took another four weeks for them to start the 'processing.' Then another four to actually forward the paperwork back.

Paperwork total time in transit: 13 weeks

I just needed a signature. This was Winter/ Spring of 2012 and 2013.

It was a stapled together memo and cover letter that needed a signature.

 

[DonAlejandroVega]

transition needy vets onto Medicaid, and give them the freedom to shop for their treatment........close the VA. its a hell hole, and the residents and fellows treat these old vets like practice dummies.

 

[schuylaar]

These issues plus a very poorly constructed administration system. The sheer amount of humanity that works for the VHA is so large that it lacks mobility when it needs to deal with a problem.

They have an ass load of patients.

The larger an element becomes the more difficult to adapt to new problems, slow moving.

It took five weeks for the VHA to notify my ombudsman that they received my packet of paperwork. It took another four weeks for them to start the 'processing.' Then another four to actually forward the paperwork back.

Paperwork total time in transit: 13 weeks

I just needed a signature. This was Winter/ Spring of 2012 and 2013.

It was a stapled together memo and cover letter that needed a signature.

fortunately, i find that i have a modicum of intelligence greater than the average federal or state worker..so YOU have to work the system..get sigs yourself..hand deliver..do ANYTHING you can to expedite..i don't sit waiting around. i get people to commit to time frame and it's basically squeaky wheel gets the grease..you can always throw in "it's because i'm white?..right?"..and you'll see how quick state/fed moves..*unless of course you are not white then you substitute race.

 

[Doer]

why would you salute someone for volunteering themselves for a pointless conflict on our dime?

you realize we're going to be paying for that unskilled idiot's moronic decision for the rest of his life, right?

Well, I would certainly spit on you for that, if I had a chance.

 

[Doer]

You just make shit up as you go whenever you look stupid, which is a lot, don't you.

I'm amused you fall for it. It is just a troll.

 

[Doer]

if you were capable of making someone look stupid, you would have done so by now.

So, you don't count as someone? I KNEW it!!!

 

[schuylaar]

transition needy vets onto Medicaid, and give them the freedom to shop for their treatment........close the VA. its a hell hole, and the residents and fellows treat these old vets like practice dummies.

these issues can easily be handled..it's all washington politics which reminds me of the fight between godzilla and mothra..talk about campy.

remember, if you think we have no say..all the kings horses and all the kings men couldn't put eric cantor together again

 

[schuylaar]

I'm amused you fall for it. It is just a troll.

morning doer! how was your father's day? do you have kids?

 

[Doer]

Some serious bureaucratic reduction from the top levels down. There people paid to push papers around during an electronic world and people hired to watch them to make sure the papers get pushed.

I would also move the workers to a 401K type match instead of the present public union retirement system that is bankrupting cities across the US.

So, you understand that there are those that are not mentally and or socially capable to do anything but what they get in the way of govt and union, and meglomanic drama of control from the leadership.

You miss the fact that all of this is because of the people not the govt.

The people are the govt. And what has happened in the USA was not planned as an advantage for some elite, but it is taken advantage of by elites, and manipulated by elites.

The elites, btw, are not the rich, far from it. The rich don't care, are ruthless and is why they are rich,

No, the Elites are low paid college professors, who spin the Envy Game.
Their driods are the low paid, petty powerful, but unelected, workers of the Political Machine.

The Elites are drunk on the Petty Power of our money, not their own,