Which one now? LED or CMH
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rob333
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why would u bother with leds to be honest and dont give me that ohh its to hot bullshit cause if ur gunna spend 500-700 bucks on a led light lolol sorry i have to laugh why not spend 150 on hps 1000 watt +bulb and shade then 70 bucks on a moster grow inline super charged fan to suck that heat out u have just spent 220 bucks with a saving of 480 bucks on nutes lolol im just saying u led light growers wast alot of time and money
spazatak
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ohh but use are gunna say its cheaper to run leds well then my friends use are jews
ttystikk
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The guys suggesting HPS lighting don't do their PAR spectrum homework, as HPS is terrible at giving plants the wavelengths they actually want- they get the job done with brute force, not efficiency.
I built my HVAC plant around shedding heat from HPS thouies by the dozen, but they still don't produce like I think they should.
I run vertical and I have a bunch of thousand watt convertible magnetic ballasts- so when I heard about the Philips CDM 860W lamps (vertical mount, magnetic ballast only), I did a happy dance! I bought some and they'll be here this week.
I built my HVAC plant around shedding heat from HPS thouies by the dozen, but they still don't produce like I think they should.
I run vertical and I have a bunch of thousand watt convertible magnetic ballasts- so when I heard about the Philips CDM 860W lamps (vertical mount, magnetic ballast only), I did a happy dance! I bought some and they'll be here this week.
spazatak
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the guys over in the LED section know there stuff.... most have grown with HPS and moved to LED due to preferring their performance
when they start taking notice of the Philips you know that light has A LOT of potential...I think its not about being an HPS /LED/ PLASMA etc guy... its about using whats best at the moment..
HPS is just point and shoot and if money is your concern then they are cheap and OK... LEDs can grow the same weed for less watts despite what HPS boffins argue..
in the end grow with what you want but there is no excuse for blind naivety
when they start taking notice of the Philips you know that light has A LOT of potential...I think its not about being an HPS /LED/ PLASMA etc guy... its about using whats best at the moment..
HPS is just point and shoot and if money is your concern then they are cheap and OK... LEDs can grow the same weed for less watts despite what HPS boffins argue..
in the end grow with what you want but there is no excuse for blind naivety
sold777
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I use LEDS all day long and I've found them to be brilliant. Everyone always slags them off. Opinions are like arseholes everyone has one!
You just have to go with what you like, I have a 180 ufo and they are only 1watt diodes and I have had fantastic results of it. They do work.
I've just brought a 350 watt lumigrow that's came today. Can't wait to use it
Brought if from the good old USA on Saturday and it landed on my doorstep in the UK today, service second to none, good old Uncle Sam!
Go with what you want but LEDs do work, it's the poorly made ones that give them a bad name. Plants absorbs more useable light from a LED than they do from a HPS.
Everyone goes on about lumens they don't mean shit.
Have a nice day the baby Jesus loves you all
You just have to go with what you like, I have a 180 ufo and they are only 1watt diodes and I have had fantastic results of it. They do work.
I've just brought a 350 watt lumigrow that's came today. Can't wait to use it
Brought if from the good old USA on Saturday and it landed on my doorstep in the UK today, service second to none, good old Uncle Sam!
Go with what you want but LEDs do work, it's the poorly made ones that give them a bad name. Plants absorbs more useable light from a LED than they do from a HPS.
Everyone goes on about lumens they don't mean shit.
Have a nice day the baby Jesus loves you all
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PetFlora
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The link is in my signature at the bottom of this post
kmog33
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Im on my phone so i dont see signatures lol sorry i think someone else linked it. Are you going to do a run using the spyder as a stand alone? You seem to have changed your lighting a bunch in the grow that i saw im interested on how it performs on its own.
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PetFlora
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I didn't get the SPYDR until ~ 2 weeks into flower
Yes, next grow will be 100% SPYDR
kmog33
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Ok ill stay tuned for that one im interested in how it performs on its own.
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6 Leaf General
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ok fux this...I have 1200 tops to invest on this light whatever it will be..I COULD afford 2 a51 XGS190 but heard this might not be enough....
the spydr600 sounds nice and looks like it will get the job done..
based on the site...2 CLW solarflares seems to be nice
the last option which is best seems to be to have one built..but who do i goto for that? im sure im not gonna assemble one myself..
just as long as its good as or greater than the a51's
the spydr600 sounds nice and looks like it will get the job done..
based on the site...2 CLW solarflares seems to be nice
the last option which is best seems to be to have one built..but who do i goto for that? im sure im not gonna assemble one myself..
just as long as its good as or greater than the a51's
6 Leaf General
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and can i get the same spectrum from the a51 xgs190 on the spydr600 ?
6 Leaf General
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would that be a good idea? 2 birds one stone
PetFlora
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Yes. One of the many things, that IMO, separates the SPYDR from the others... the ability to choose your own spectrums
The ability to push the bars together for veg, then spread them as the plants grow is huge (and also tilt individual bars)
as well as the entire 3 x 3 footprint has the same intensity color spectrums
and then it's passively cooled, although running a house fan across the back side makes it more efficient
rob333 not true. See greengenes707 side-by-side Apache Tech v 1000w hps. Several YT videos
Bricksquad2625
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why? LOL sorry I own a spyder, they kick ass.
6 Leaf General
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Lol understood...I was just on the idea that the spectrum was one that you choose so I said to myself...just go witha proven spectrum? If im making sense lol..im not sure if the spectrum the spydr has standard would be better/worst than my other option
Im really leaning toward the spydr for the 4x4 coverage...
And also are they 5w or 3w leds on the spydr??