Advanced nutrients owner a peedo????

941mick

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Chuck I don't know how old you are but there is this thing on the internet called youtube, and on this youtube there are hundreds of side by side grows using different nutrients.
 

daedalux

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a real farmer could grow the same crop with MG or advanced or jack's, See, A REAL farmer knows not to rely on nutrients to pull dank. And ANYONE who measures there GPW has no clue on what they are doing.
thats whatsup. so many diff factors and nutrients play a relatively small role in all of it. this treads a joke.
 

natro.hydro

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Gpw is for people who have shit dialed in and are trying to figure out there efficiency. If all thngs remain the same but you get a different gpw you can start looking for problems.
Little naive to say it is a useless unit of measure, just useless to you apparently

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chuck estevez

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Gpw is for people who have shit dialed in and are trying to figure out there efficiency. If all thngs remain the same but you get a different gpw you can start looking for problems.
Little naive to say it is a useless unit of measure, just useless to you apparently

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once things are dialed in on the same strain and you want to measure that way , sure. But if you have ever grown different strains, you know they all yield different. My Og will never yield a QP a plant, But my vortex yields 5-6 zips, so yeah, I guess gpw is not really a measurement I use.
 

chuck estevez

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Call yourself real this real that. I'll give you a fact. I been growing for only a couple years, and if we had the same exact room I would bring more nugs out of it than you. If you don't measure in that aspect, than no wonder advanced isn't for you. It isn't for fun, it's to get the best quality and most amount of nugs for my money invested.
yeah, I know, all you douchebags claim you'll put your shit up against mine, whatever. I have nothing to prove to noobs who don't know better than to not use AN.
 

st0wandgrow

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So all LSD MDMA and Meth is the same? I am far from a chemist so feel free to burn me, but I thought there were many ways to synthesize different chemical compounds.

What Im saying is that any nutrient line will contain all of the essential elements required by the plant. Companies like AN will divide those elements up in to a gazillion different bottles (which are mostly water), add shit like b-vitamins and sweeteners that the plant does not need, and then proceed to charge you up the ass for them.

Those same elements can be found in a simple one or two part nutrient solution like JR Peters.
 

chuck estevez

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What Im saying is that any nutrient line will contain all of the essential elements required by the plant. Companies like AN will divide those elements up in to a gazillion different bottles (which are mostly water), add shit like b-vitamins and sweeteners that the plant does not need, and then proceed to charge you up the ass for them.

Those same elements can be found in a simple one or two part nutrient solution like JR Peters.
WOW, for the first time, I actually like what your typing,strange.
 

941mick

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What Im saying is that any nutrient line will contain all of the essential elements required by the plant. Companies like AN will divide those elements up in to a gazillion different bottles (which are mostly water), add shit like b-vitamins and sweeteners that the plant does not need, and then proceed to charge you up the ass for them.

Those same elements can be found in a simple one or two part nutrient solution like JR Peters.
Right, but I was trying to discover if you think that the way a compound is synthesized comes into play at all. Kinda like meth cooked in a trailer compared to a Mexican super lab with professional equipment.
 

st0wandgrow

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Right, but I was trying to discover if you think that the way a compound is synthesized comes into play at all. Kinda like meth cooked in a trailer compared to a Mexican super lab with professional equipment.
I suppose differences could lay in the ratio of nutrients used in various fertilizers, but to me I would question why a company feels the need to break those down in to so many different bottles. I would speculate that money is their motive. Again, using JR Peters as an example.... They obviously know what elements the plant requires, and at what ratio, so there is no need to package these as different products.

It would be like a multivitamin company selling you 20 different bottles of pills with each bottle containing only 1 vitamin instead of just selling you one bottle with each pill therein containing everything you need.
 

chuck estevez

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I mean if I said I'm gonna go make some MKP in my basement would use the finished product?
do you also buy their shitty magazine that they use to give away for free? You know the one with all the ads for AN products on that expensive paper that have tips on how to buy more of the products that produce huge yields that you could never do with $5 worth of jack's?
 

941mick

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You could very easily buy the raw salts, mix them up, add water and have a comparable product to what AN is selling. It's mostly water that you're paying for.
so the salts are just found in nature? Im seriously asking, I know i may sound stupid.
 

st0wandgrow

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how would i get that old x factor formula???

It's been quite a while since I've bought a bottle of nutrients, so I had to look that product up. Of course, they say that "they aren't allowed to disclose what this secret ingredient is", but it's being marketed as a bloom enhancer so it would consist primarily of Phosphorous.

If you're using a good,complete fertilizer then there would be no reason to dump a bunch of P on the plant. IMO that will cause more harm than good
 

st0wandgrow

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so the salts are just found in nature? Im seriously asking, I know i may sound stupid.
They are, but not in ionic form. In nature they require a third party (microbe) to process the organic element to make it bioavailable. synthetic nutrients are made in a lab, and are plant available right out of the bottle.
 

941mick

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They are, but not in ionic form. In nature they require a third party (microbe) to process the organic element to make it bioavailable synthetitc nutrients are made in a lab, and are plant available right out of the bottle.
so labs could labs differ in quality of their synthetic salts? Seriously asking, not a chemist or up to speed with how synthetics are created in a lab.
 
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