Daub Marley
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My plan is to use this type of fabric on the plants this year to prevent the caterpillars.
Does anyone have experience with it?
Does anyone have experience with it?
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mike lanza
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really never heard of that it works though??
mwooten102
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Every year somebody tries something like this and its yet to prevent anything except from keeping natural predators from keeping pests populations under control.
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Daub Marley
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Well maybe I won't do anything but will wait and pray for birds to tear apart my buds so they can eat the caterpillars. There are no effective natural predators for them or it wouldn't be a problem dipshit.
It's gardening fabric and is made with the intention to keep out bugs and insects. A neighbor tried it last year and said it worked really well. It's not a cure all just another weapon to fight them with. We'll see how well it works. Anything is better than spraying your plants late into budding.
veggiegardener
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I've been using Bt for MANY years. It is non toxic and has no effect on taste or quality. I spray Bt and then wash my girls down a day or two later. The Bt remains effective because it is a bacteria and remains on the plant in sufficient numbers to kill the worms. The moths/butterflies are usually gone by mid September, here in the valley.
Enjoy your moldy buds.
dante76
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The best defense for budworms is SPINOSAD...this stuff works. I swear by it. In order to get the best results from it, you'd have to spray your plants 2 -3 times per week during each week of flowering. Spinosad is most effective at killing larvae and the small hatchlings that emerge from eggs laid by moths/butterflies. BT only kills adult catepilliars.
If you spray the flowers with spinosad as directed ( 2 - 3x per week) you'll be killing any new eggs laid during flowering; as a result there will never reach the adult stage. At first I was worried about spraying this stuff directly on the flowers but didn't have any problems. Its totally organic and if you're worried still, use MightyWash before or after harvest to clean your bud.
My last harvest, i lost 75% of my bud to catepillars; my new harvest....0%; no catepilliars; no damage to any buds!!! Just don't go too long between spraying becuase moths lay eggs constantly.
If you spray the flowers with spinosad as directed ( 2 - 3x per week) you'll be killing any new eggs laid during flowering; as a result there will never reach the adult stage. At first I was worried about spraying this stuff directly on the flowers but didn't have any problems. Its totally organic and if you're worried still, use MightyWash before or after harvest to clean your bud.
My last harvest, i lost 75% of my bud to catepillars; my new harvest....0%; no catepilliars; no damage to any buds!!! Just don't go too long between spraying becuase moths lay eggs constantly.
SpaaaceCowboy
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Noticed I had a bunch of holes in the leaves of some of my plants....I didnt see any caterpillars but I wasnt looking for them either.....I guess I assumed it was some bugs that were eating them.....my plants are a long ways away from me....so if I go I should bring stuff rather than going there then going to get stuff and returning.....
Safe to assume caterpillars ? And if so, spray down with BT or that spinosad stuff ?
I'm in the NE US, plants really have not started flowering yet....
Thanks, SC
Safe to assume caterpillars ? And if so, spray down with BT or that spinosad stuff ?
I'm in the NE US, plants really have not started flowering yet....
Thanks, SC
FresnoFarmer
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Spinosad or bt wouldnt hurt. I have been seeing caterpillar damage as of yesterday. Time to whip out the Captain Jacks Deadbug Brew
SpaaaceCowboy
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hmmm, what's in that dead bug brew ?
FresnoFarmer
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Spinosad ks the active ingredient. This stuff works on budworms, thrips, spidermites. Its good stuff. I ordered mine on amazon. Get the concentrate, not the ready to use crap.
SpaaaceCowboy
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thanks for that info....I may just get that....When you said Captain Jacks Bug Brew I thought it was some homemade recipe that you concocted or something, lol.
bud nugbong
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Just ordered some captain jacks, fres makes it sound good! Last year I had nothing and was picking out caterpillars daily. I bought sevin a week ago but It seemed too poison for me. I try to stay as organic as possible.
FresnoFarmer
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Nooooo!! Sevin dust is poison lol. That shit makes my throat raw and makes me dizzy. I only use that stuff in early veg if there is a real infestation. And wear a mask and long clothing. Captain jacks is awesome. I didnt believe it killed spidermites until I saw it work. Killed my thrips too.
Daub Marley
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I will be using both Bt and spinosad all the way until halfway through budding. I also use seranade and prune heavily to ensure good airflow. I will not have any moldy buds, but you will have Bt on your buds. It might be perfectly fine to ingest it, but inhaling it is a different story. If they advise you to wear a mask to spray it then its probably not very safe to be inhaling it on your buds. Anything that says safe to use until harvest is assuming its a fruit or vegetable that is eaten and not smoked. Its probably not too much of a worry, but I'll err on the side of caution. Bt does smell like moldy books but it just doesn't last too long. Bt is not a silver bullet, it's just one bullet of many that can be used.
veggiegardener
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LOL!
Believe what you like. I've done my research. Can you say there are NO bacteria on/in your buds? Bacteria more toxic than Bt? Did you read my post? I wash my girls a couple times a week to remove foreign materials. Bug feces and the like. I foliar spray about twice a month throughout vegging. Most indoor grows accumulate a lot of things on leaf surfaces and buds. If your outdoor grow is perfectly sterile, I'd like to know how you do it. Enjoy your weed. I'll enjoy mine.
bud nugbong
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yea I went in looking for that gardensafe stuff, but all they had was sevin. I didn't want to buy it, but I went all the way to the store. I might just use it as a perimeter barrier, nothing on the plants.
FresnoFarmer
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Yeah. I use the sevi. Around plants to discourage pests. Mainly ants becuse they will farm the shit out of aphids. I also put tangle foot at the base of the plants on the main stem. It helps alot with most crawlers.
bud nugbong
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yea I got a handful of ants and aphids on my pepper plants, and a shitload on a couple sunflowers. I was actually showing my niece how they protect the aphids and got bit on the finger.
Daub Marley
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Of course my buds will have bacteria on it, and Bt is a strain of bacteria. The difference is the number of bacteria cells present. I feel that it is unhealthy to inhale in such large numbers, and while cleaning with water probably would remove it sufficiently it would also remove trichomes and terpenes from them. I've done your exact process before and moved on because I don't like to wash them, but to each their own. How to do wash them exactly? Are you just spraying them with clean water?