MMPR Licensed Producer Thread

GrowRock

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Reasonable rules... How about health Canada do there job and not take away patients rights to affordable medicine like they did with the mmpr. They tried being the bosses to patients already and that didn't work out for them!!! So why should you LP's allow them the to f u over oh ya the money I forgot lol
 

VIANARCHRIS

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As far as I know, the current LPs do meet with HC and try to make the rules a little more logical. Health Canada is the boss in this. The Lps would rather develop a different plan, but they can't. They are forced to work within the rules and guidelines created by Health Canada.

If you could, what "reasonable rules" would you like to see in the MMPR?
If my generation had simply accepted that the 'government is the boss in this', where do you think we'd be now? You are only forced to work within the rules you allow to be placed on you. It's taken a lot of people with the courage to fight for what they want to get us to this point. So far I haven't heard of HC backing down to any request made by LP's. Are there any requests made by LP's?. Get tough.Push back. The perception is the LP industry is happy to do whatever HC tells them to in order to cash in.
What "reasonable rules" would I like to see? How about we start with something as simple as the quality control regulations that have resulted in delays, recalls and irradiation. Marijuana is a plant...not a pharmaceutical...and should be treated as such. It does not have a DIN #. Those that require a product that is 'pharmacy clean' should be able to get it, but not everyone is worried about that. HC gives the option under the mmar of growing outdoors for medicine, I can grow tomatoes and sell them at the farmers market. It's a very simple argument for a lawyer acting on behalf of the growers to make, and it would reduce production costs and time and provide a more reliable source for your customers. Try that. Or not.
 

MarijeJane

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Reasonable rules... How about health Canada do there job and not take away patients rights to affordable medicine like they did with the mmpr. They tried being the bosses to patients already and that didn't work out for them!!! So why should you LP's allow them the to f u over oh ya the money I forgot lol
Actually, there is no right to affordable medicine under the Canada Health Act. What is promised is "universal coverage for medically necessary health care services provided on the basis of need, rather than the ability to pay."
 

MarijeJane

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The Canada Health Act states nothing about medications, just services that are "medically necessary". There is no "free" medicine. Someone always pays for it. It may be your health plan, your employer, yourself, the social welfare system (which is paid for by tax-payers). There is always someone paying for meds.
 

GrowRock

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Sorry jane you must not have read my post it said affordable NOT free lol I can produce my own organic medicine for 1$ a gram and the mmpr program wants to sell me low grade bunk for 8 to 12$ affordable not free. As for the the right it is in the charter of rights and freedoms not the health act

Peace
 

MarijeJane

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Sorry jane you must not have read my post it said affordable NOT free lol I can produce my own organic medicine for 1$ a gram and the mmpr program wants to sell me low grade bunk for 8 to 12$ affordable not free. As for the the right it is in the charter of rights and freedoms not the health act

Peace
Can you please show me where in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms there is any mention of affordable meds? I have looked and can't find it anywhere!
 

GrowRock

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Section 7 states that all Canadians have the right to life and liberty. The government gave me the right under the mmar to produce medicine for myself that was affordable now they are taking patients rights away by forcing us to purchase medicine that we can not afford and making us choose between life and liberty!!!!! You do the math

Peace
 

Jackal69

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same way there's pills that cost 300000.00 a month for people and they can't afford it, only through public outcry does the govt change and pay costs.... most likely on a case by case basis .... no public outcry no pay
 

bcbreeder

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I shake my head thinking its the biggest abusers of the old mar system that had big licenses bought off medical patients that are now part of the new system
You people are the ones that got the old mar shut down with your multi hundred light ops selling to je black market all under the guise of being medical you people make me wanna puke especially the ones that did questionable deals with two wheeler connections to get your initial stock to relable as medical bud??

Marie jane you should read up on some of the medical cases constitutional challenges to realize growrock is right in his arguments its all online do the homework instead of having us medical patients have to educate you.
Yes LPs will always have a market, the designated growers of the past can be LPs and you a holes can allow us legit patients to grow our own strains that we spent decades developing and you don't get my genetics you pigs.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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The silence from the licensed producers in response to my post is deafening! I would think you would want to work along side patients in order to get the changes that will benefit both sides. How does it feel being under the 'man's' control? You sold yourselves to HC and have become their pawns. The feds don't care about you or your business any more than they care about patients. You are there simply to appease the courts. LP has come to mean " little puppets".
 

bigmanc

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Reasonable rules... How about health Canada do there job and not take away patients rights to affordable medicine like they did with the mmpr. They tried being the bosses to patients already and that didn't work out for them!!! So why should you LP's allow them the to f u over oh ya the money I forgot lol
In conroys 1hr video of him in jamaica he said the crown at the injunction told the judge that there is no law to make medicine affordable.
 

CannaReview

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In conroys 1hr video of him in jamaica he said the crown at the injunction told the judge that there is no law to make medicine affordable.

Which there's nothing wrong with it. Having reasonable access is one thing but its still a business after all. I would love to be able to pay say $200 for an MRI scan from a private clinic but obviously wont happen.
 

CannaReview

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Sounds like reasonable access rite?

Well I was referring to affordable medicine. In reality there's no cheap meds righst but access to medicine, and ONLY if someone is making the medicine. If not one is making it and its not available then people should have to right to obtain it anyway they can to make their lives better.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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Then grow your own or pick up a gun and force the gov to change.
We have been growing AND forcing the government to change for about 40 years, now you want us to fight to make your business viable? This is a perfect opportunity for LP's to shape the mmpr into something that addresses the needs of the patient as well as the grower. HC is making shit up as they go along so a little lobbying and educational advice might just sway a decision or two in our favour. All without picking up a gun. You will never have this opportunity to both bring about positive change and bond with your customers in a common goal, ever again. Licensed Producers or Little Puppets? I think I know the answer. Shame.Really.
 

CannaReview

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We have been growing AND forcing the government to change for about 40 years, now you want us to fight to make your business viable?
I don't have any stake in medical weed so its not any of my business. As for the LP's don't be so naive they don't give a fuck, they are more concerned with IPO's then actually growing. If they gave a fuck about you they would have hired professional horticulturists to grow the weed, instead they hired the same people who abused MMAR and they now have showed that black market growing does not translate to "medical grade"
 
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VIANARCHRIS

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I don't have any stake in medical weed so its not any of my business. As for the LP's don't be so naive they don't give a fuck, they are more concerned with IPO's then actually growing. If they gave a fuck about you they would have hired professional horticulturists to grow the weed, instead they hired the same people who abused MMAR and they now have showed that black market growing does not translate to "medical grade"
I apologize for lumping you in with HC's Little Puppets. It is difficult to know what side someone is on, on an issue, and you seemed to be supporting LP's. I was seriously trying to provoke a discussion that may churn some positive ideas that could lead to positive change. The LP's are in a perfect position to organize and lobby.
Not one of them bothered to reply which is very telling. I doubt more than one or two will be around in 3 years as growing for recreational use is normalized and the 'medical grade' precautions they are forced to invest in and operate under are no longer needed. If it were my money, I'd be pushing for change NOW while the program is in it's infancy in order to stem the bleeding you know is going to come later. But hey...they're the 'business folk'....
 
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