Heat Stress!

509Rebel

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Thanks bro! I fuckin hate bugs generally. This is my first outdoor plant. I had a perpetual harvest going indoors from when I started out last fall until this May when my grow shop lease agreement expired. Got my location squared away and no sooner had I raised some candidates for flowering that I first encountered spider mites infested on the 'Mystery Indica' (as I've dubbed the unknown indica strain) I'm cutting tomorrow. I kept the little bastards at bay enough that they didn't show their ugly two spotted asses the last 7 weeks. It has me feeling like a bug-bigot. Lol.
Anyway, this outdoor shit had me all uneasy with a feeling of a near complete loss of control - watering w unbalanced irrigation water and a little rain, accepting that bugs WILL be on the plant and some WILL bite it.. I'm a believer in organic so I'm not into using any synthetic pesticides and have resisted using pesticides of any type just out of 'stoner instinct' that tells me if it's not somethin I wanna smoke, I don't want it on my plant. Had no choice when the spiders tried to claim my gorgeous indica, used a 1-2 punch on em alternating between neem and some organic shit called green clean.

I'm desperately hoping it's heat stress. That one branch is the only branch on the entire plant that had any twisting or any sort of damage or deformity to any growing tip. All other grow tips are absolutely fine, even in the areas I assumed to have heat stress. So I'm going to go w the simpler adjustment suggestion to start with. I turned off the water I had been drowning the plant in believing that would reduce the heat stress I believed it was suffering, and some of the leaves that were so tightly rolled have loosened and appear to possibly be opening back up.

If this issue progresses, the next possible diagnosis I will research more and treat for will be broad mites.

Thankfully, I have my indoor 'day job' I can stick to. When this big bitch finishes, I have no intention to grow outdoors in the future - I'm too much of a control freak! Lol.

Thanks for your time man I appreciate the advice. I'll post what I figure out as this unfolds.

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P.S.- my apologies for saying u claimed I was someone else, I was mistaken. It was Diabolical666 that had said that.

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mr sunshine

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TWS said:
These things scare the shit out of me ! I don't think spinosad will kill them. It doesn't even list them as a pest. The IC mag seems to suggest only Avid and Forbid, no pest strips and heat dunks, and you better not get them in flower. Predator mites might help you then.
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Heat dunks will definitely work ... I hear leaving them fully submerged in 100 degree water for 15 min will get rid of them completely!!! But I don't know what type of damage that would do to the plant!! And it's nearly impossible if your plants in the ground!!
 
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Diabolical666

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TWS said:
These things scare the shit out of me ! I don't think spinosad will kill them. It doesn't even list them as a pest. The IC mag seems to suggest only Avid and Forbid, no pest strips and heat dunks, and you better not get them in flower. Predator mites might help you then.
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Any good miticide will kill em TWS. I had these boogers, fuck, I've had just about everything
 
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Diabolical666

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I never told you to cut the top off, I told you to treat the plant. It must have gotten worse for you to cut the top off idk
 
509Rebel

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Diabolical666 said:
Yeah we told him that already...he wont listen. Hes trying to get his confirmation of heat stress and only the ppl that dont have a clue about broad mites say its heat stress. Heat stress dont twist only broad mites
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Was just pointing out that you clearly had me mistaken for someone else, this was my first post EVER..

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509Rebel

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mr sunshine said:
Heat dunks will definitely work ... I hear leaving them fully submerged in 100 degree water for 15 min will get rid of them completely!!! But I don't know what type of damage that would do to the plant!! And it's nearly impossible if your plants in the ground!!
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So the issue seems to have progressed. I'm beginning to doubt that it is heat stress or water issues as I have sufficient shade and haven't watered in about a week (although the ground IS still moist, I had given that thing a SHITLOAD of water!) So I apologize for being skeptical on ur suggestion. Any relatively easy, relatively easy way to kill these fucks?

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mr sunshine

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509Rebel said:
So the issue seems to have progressed. I'm beginning to doubt that it is heat stress or water issues as I have sufficient shade and haven't watered in about a week (although the ground IS still moist, I had given that thing a SHITLOAD of water!) So I apologize for being skeptical on ur suggestion. Any relatively easy, relatively easy way to kill these fucks?

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Get some sm 90 u can use it during flower...it smells really good imo...spray your plant daily...If your still vegging hit it hard with something strong......I can't say with what off the top of my head ....carefully cut out all the branches that are affected and burn them try spraying it with some sm 90 first then tie a bag carefully around the branch and cut it off , immediately burn that fucker....but in all honesty imo If it's only one plant thats infested and you have others I would burn the entire plant ..
 
509Rebel

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mr sunshine said:
Get some sm 90 u can use it during flower...it smells really good imo...spray your plant daily...If your still vegging hit it hard with something strong......I can't say with what off the top of my head ....carefully cut out all the branches that are affected and burn them try spraying it with some sm 90 first then tie a bag carefully around the branch and cut it off , immediately burn that fucker....but in all honesty imo If it's only one plant thats infested and you have others I would burn the entire plant ..
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It is my one and only outdoor. I grow indoors! Lol. But damn I think I'll see about some spray, cuz it's about a week or a lil more into flower. I'll remove the branches and just pray I guess. I've showed a couple buddies that grow and they were super impressed w it's size. Would be a heartbreaker to lose this thing to fucking BUGS!

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mr sunshine

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509Rebel said:
It is my one and only outdoor. I grow indoors! Lol. But damn I think I'll see about some spray, cuz it's about a week or a lil more into flower. I'll remove the branches and just pray I guess. I've showed a couple buddies that grow and they were super impressed w it's size. Would be a heartbreaker to lose this thing to fucking BUGS!

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I completely understand I had them on 3 of my outdoor plants last year ..they only ruin what they eat...The twisted tops are done... If the tops that aren't affected stay like that you will get OK bud ,stunted smaller nugs but still frosty.... The stuff that's twisted will start to bud then turn into this brocoli looking no tricome having twisted mess! Do not take the broad mites inside with you that would be catastrophic. .....
 
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