Travan Martin all over again??

SmokeyDan

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Buck, TM was an aggressive young man with a penchant for looking like someone in a rap video.

As a young man it is reasonable to believe he might have grown out of it since he had something rare for a black kid, a father.
 

UncleBuck

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Buck, TM was an aggressive young man with a penchant for looking like someone in a rap video.
what was his criminal record like? did he have as many convictions as the drug addled vigilante who hunted him down? any convictions at all? did he beat any women? assault any cops?
 

Hazydat620

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So the truth starts to come out...

The cute pictures of the little black kid turn into 7-11 video of him conducting a strong arm robbery by going into a convenience store, grabbing what he wanted and terrorizing the owner or employee in the process. And now it makes sense why he would attempt to jump into a police car and steal the cops gun. (this seemed a little out of hand before the facts started coming out.)

Do you think that cute little black kid was trying to reach for the gun because he was scared of the white cop?? Is that how the media is going to portray this story?

I would love for there to be video of the shooting because there isnt much bias in live tape.

The above being said... If everything else is true then that cop executed a black man in the street and he needs to go to jail.

The story isnt over yet....
Why would he have to steal a weapon from a cop if he just used one in a robbery? How is this violent black criminal able to commit a crime without killing any one but this cop cant arrest someone without having a body in the street? Isn't there IQ tests to become cops?
 

NLXSK1

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mind telling me all about martin's criminal record there?
Martin was suspended from school when he could not explain the burglary tools and womens jewelry found on his person at school...

Maybe he hadnt graduated to strong arm robbery yet as it appears he paid for his skittles...
 

NLXSK1

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Why would he have to steal a weapon from a cop if he just used one in a robbery? How is this violent black criminal able to commit a crime without killing any one but this cop cant arrest someone without having a body in the street? Isn't there IQ tests to become cops?

A strongarm robbery is one in which you threaten physical harm to a person. In his case the store clerk. The guy didnt have a gun.
 

Hazydat620

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A strongarm robbery is one in which you threaten physical harm to a person. In his case the store clerk. The guy didnt have a gun.
Apparently your reading comprehension has failed you, where do you see the word " GUN " in my post? This kid is so tuff that he just says words to rob people? I can see how the cop had no choice but to use deadly force, especially finding out AFTER the fact.
 

ChesusRice

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I'm sure Michael Brown did turn around real fast and raise his hands.
Probably the same Moment Officer Wilson was squeezing off a round.
Unfortunatly the laws of physics prevents the Officer from recalling the bullet once the primer has been lit off
 

UncleBuck

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I'm sure Michael Brown did turn around real fast and raise his hands.
Probably the same Moment Officer Wilson was squeezing off a round.
Unfortunatly the laws of physics prevents the Officer from recalling the bullet once the primer has been lit off
whatever happened, the point of the OP is that it's all OK because the kid took some cigars to roll blunts with. thus it was OK to shoot him while he fled.
 

abandonconflict

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Mike Brown, like Rodney King, was not the sole cause of a riot. He was the tipping point, the straw that broke the camel's back. A community full of people with no legitimate opportunities needs only such an incident in order to see that they are not simply oppressed and desperate individuals, but a class.
 

SmokeyDan

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what was his criminal record like? did he have as many convictions as the drug addled vigilante who hunted him down? any convictions at all? did he beat any women? assault any cops?
Try to get an important job and the question isn't have you ever been convicted, but have you ever been charged can be asked. It will come up on a background check. And it can be used against you.

Unfortunately, TM's criminal records, or lack there of is unknown to us because of his juvenile status.

We can't use TM's record (or lack of) against him because it isn't fair, we don't know that he did.

But it can't be a defense for TM either because a rational person who looks at the evidence might say he has a favorable profile for someone with a record.

Besides his school records weren't all that great.

TM was no saint, who is.
 

SmokeyDan

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whatever happened, the point of the OP is that it's all OK because the kid took some cigars to roll blunts with. thus it was OK to shoot him while he fled.
No it isn't. His last sentence states the exact opposite.

His point is yet again another black kid who started a fight with someone who had a gun got killed and the media makes them out to be a saint.

Not justifying their killing.
 

natro.hydro

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Apparently your reading comprehension has failed you, where do you see the word " GUN " in my post? This kid is so tuff that he just says words to rob people?
A strongarm robbery is one in which you threaten physical harm to a person. In his case the store clerk. The guy didnt have a gun.
Why would he have to steal a weapon from a cop if he just used one in a robbery?
You didnt say gun but you implied it with your first comment that he didnt need to steal one if he just got done doing a robbery. Do you see where there might be some confusion there.


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ChesusRice

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i didn't see them parading it. i believe they said it appeared to be him.
He was funny, silly. He would make you laugh. Any problems that were going on or any situation, there wasn't nothing he couldn't solve. He'd bring people back together," his father, Michael Brown Sr., told reporters.
Family members nicknamed him the "gentle giant."
For teachers, he was "a student who loomed large and didn't cause trouble," the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported.
Friends and family said the teenager was ecstatic about starting classes at Vatterott College.
"He looked forward to it so much. You didn't have to tell him, 'Make sure you get to school.' He was ready," mother Lesley McSpadden told CNN.
And he was proud to be setting an example for his younger siblings.
"He was a leader. He knew what he wanted out of life," his father said. "He was a good kid."
He hoped to become a heating and cooling engineer, working on air conditioning, attorney Benjamin Crump, who's representing the teen's family, told reporters.
"Everyone else wanted to be a football player, a basketball player," friend Gerard Fuller told the Post-Dispatch. "He wanted to own his own business. He'd say, 'Let's make something out of nothing.'"
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/11/justice/michael-brown-missouri-teen-shot/
 

ChesusRice

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No it isn't. His last sentence states the exact opposite.

His point is yet again another black kid who started a fight with someone who had a gun got killed and the media makes them out to be a saint.

Not justifying their killing.
TM was murdered.

Brown attacked a police officer.
That is not in dispute

Zimmerman wasnt a police officer
 

ChesusRice

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"And instead of celebrating his future, they are having to plan his funeral and talk to attorney (Anthony) Gray and I about second autopsies," Crump said.
At a press conference on Monday, the teenager's parents tearfully described their son to reporters, holding up a photograph showing him as a toddler.
"He was a good boy," his father said. "He didn't deserve none of this."
They asked for supporters to remain peaceful -- something they said their son would have wanted.
 
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