So who here is growing in true organic living soil?
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abe supercro
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is it that simple for the bio accelerators like stinging nettle?
buckaroo bonzai
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I posted this allready WAY back in this thread.....w links
soak it in fish guts......
chicken shit----tea bag----from a burlap sac ....or horse cow.....lama....alpaca...bat...
-any high N source like rrog says green vegetation also....
make a 'tea-bag' w burlap or nylon and dunk/leave soak in garbage can w water and char.......soak for a week(?)month(?)........sun dry on tarp......use liberally
Enjoy the benefits!
You have to load bio char to use it correctly........it will suck out the N and lock it like the buddha said
-unless its 'loaded'up w N.....then its a natural time release mechanism-
And stinging nettles plant ....horsetail.....comfrey......?
Maximum effect for organic gardening.....flavonoids and turpenes increase imo
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Bigtacofarmer
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Sorry. I had a feeling. I look at so many different things in so many places I rarely remember the whens and wheres. I did notice that when I started searching I opened up a lot of pages I'd been on before. My ADD and cross reference skills hard a work.
abe supercro
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stinging nettle
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Urtica_dioica
thestuff is native to my place
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Urtica_dioica
thestuff is native to my place
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shredder4
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Rudi I&I Automan
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GUILTY AS CHARGED 
COMFREY
BORAGE
NETTLE
SEAWEED
POO (SHEEP, PIGS ON THE WING (OOPS FLOYD) COW, SHEEP, BUNNY WUNNY, GERBIL, HAMPSTER AND ALBINO FERRET. ALL FROM ORGANICLY REARED AMINALS WITH NAMES. So no crap, well not counting that heap. almost no chems bar some animals on meds, but there usualy seperated anyway.
nothing like the feel of soil on your skin.
sure beats getting the ph/ec/tds etc meters out and faffin around all the time
COMFREY
BORAGE
NETTLE
SEAWEED
POO (SHEEP, PIGS ON THE WING (OOPS FLOYD) COW, SHEEP, BUNNY WUNNY, GERBIL, HAMPSTER AND ALBINO FERRET. ALL FROM ORGANICLY REARED AMINALS WITH NAMES. So no crap, well not counting that heap. almost no chems bar some animals on meds, but there usualy seperated anyway.
nothing like the feel of soil on your skin.
sure beats getting the ph/ec/tds etc meters out and faffin around all the time
Rudi I&I Automan
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just smells funny is all
a senile fungus
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Does anybody know where to source quality worm castings in south eastern Michigan?
Haven't had much luck lately with this...
Thanks in advance!
Haven't had much luck lately with this...
Thanks in advance!
st0wandgrow
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Starr Valley Farms out of Ann Arbor sells freshly made castings. Not the cheapest option, but the quality will beat anything bagged. You might be able to work out a discount if you buy enough.
http://www.starrvalleyfarms.com/site/aed50cb19dc64997810f4910c67b90e0/default?url=http://www.starrvalleyfarms.com/Vermiculture.php#2912
a senile fungus
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Thank you so much! I will call first thing in the morning!
This made my day! The last thing I wanted to use was poor quality castings!
My mix is nearly complete!
st0wandgrow
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My pleasure. Talk to him too about buying castings by volume instead of weight. It's a better way to go about it. You shouldn't have to pay more for the same quantity if the castings are wet.
He's a very nice guy. I think he will be receptive to the request.
a senile fungus
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I sure will!
I have 2cf of cocoa bean shells, 1cf of coarse perlite
2.2 cf of sphagnum peat which I assume will expand to maybe 3ish cf
And I have .75ft of mushroom compost and about 1cf of store bought worm castings. I also have maybe another cf of local composted manure and pine shavings.
I'm guessing I need another 1 to 1.5cf of worm castings and then I'll have a nice base mix.
What say you?
buckaroo bonzai
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nothing like the feel of soil on your skin.
Antidepressant Microbes In Soil: How Dirt Makes You Happy
Prozac may not be the only way to get rid of your serious blues. Soil microbes have been found to have similar effects on the brain and are without side effects and chemical dependency potentials. Learn how to harness the natural antidepressant in soil and make yourself happier and healthier. Read on to see how dirt makes you happy.
Natural remedies have been around for untold centuries. These natural remedies included cures for almost any physical ailment as well as mental and emotional afflictions. Ancient healers may not have known why something worked but simply that it did. Modern scientists have unraveled the why of many medicinal plants and practices but only recently are they finding remedies that were previously unknown and, yet, still a part of the natural life cycle. Soil microbes and human health now have a positive link which has been studied and found to be verifiable.
Soil Microbes and Human Health
Did you know that there’s a natural antidepressant in soil? It’s true. Mycobacterium vaccae is the substance under study and has, indeed, been found to mirror the effect on neurons that drugs like Prozac provide. The bacterium is found in soil and may stimulate serotonin production, which makes you relaxed and happier. Studies were conducted on cancer patients and they reported a better quality of life and less stress.
Serotonin has been linked to such problems as depression, anxiety, obsessive compulsive disorder and bipolar problems. The bacterium appears to be a natural antidepressant in soil and has no adverse health effects. These antidepressant microbes in soil may be as easy to use as just playing in the dirt.
Most avid gardeners will tell you that their landscape is their “happy place” and the actual physical act of gardening is a stress reducer and mood lifter. The fact that there is some science behind it adds additional credibility to these garden addicts’ claims. The presence of a soil bacteria antidepressant is not a surprise to many of us who have experienced the phenomenon ourselves. Backing it up with science is fascinating, but not shocking, to the happy gardener.
Mycrobacterium antidepressant microbes in soil are also being investigated for improving cognitive function, Crohn’s disease and even rheumatoid arthritis.
How Dirt Makes You Happy
Antidepressant microbes in soil cause cytokine levels to rise, which results in the production of higher levels of serotonin. The bacterium was tested both by injection and ingestion on rats and the results were increased cognitive ability, lower stress and better concentration to tasks than a control group.
Gardeners inhale the bacteria, have topical contact with it and get it into their bloodstreams when there is a cut or other pathway for infection. The natural effects of the soil bacteria antidepressant can be felt for up to 3 weeks if the experiments with rats are any indication. So get out and play in the dirt and improve your mood and your life.
Resources:
“Identification of an Immune-Responsive Mesolimbocortical Serotonergic System: Potential Role in Regulation of Emotional Behavior,” by Christopher Lowry et al., published online on March 28, 2007 in Neuroscience.
http://www.sage.edu/newsevents/news/?story_id=240785
http://extension.oregonstate.edu/lane/sites/default/files/images/gg607.pdf (pg 12)
Mind & Brain/Depression and Happiness – Raw Data “Is Dirt the New Prozac?” by Josie Glausiusz, Discover Magazine, July 2007 Issue. http://discovermagazine.com/2007/jul/raw-data-is-dirt-the-new-prozac
Full article:
http://www.gardeningknowhow.com/garden-how-to/soil-fertilizers/antidepressant-microbes-soil.htm
st0wandgrow
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Sounds good! You may have a little excess castings if you pick up another cf or so. That's great though.... you can set some aside for top dressing or brewing compost teas with
a senile fungus
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Yes I will do that! Thanks for your help!
Eventually I'll start a thread. Thanks for the help everyone!