Advanced Nutrients for Newb's?

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[Mr.Head]

They don't look that bad at all, knock off the teas for a while subs mix is supposed to be water only if I am not mistaken. If you have extra soil mix I would just mix in some inert soil like promix or something to "cut" it a bit, maybe a 1/3 or so.

 

[frizzelrip]

They don't look that bad at all, knock off the teas for a while subs mix is supposed to be water only if I am not mistaken. If you have extra soil mix I would just mix in some inert soil like promix or something to "cut" it a bit, maybe a 1/3 or so.

Thanks MrHead, I do try my best. I Hope the last 2 pics i posted were not misleading, as the 2 girls picted are directly after a transplant before the roots hit the hot soil (semi healthy). Now the pic with the Giant Dark green Fan is a kush variant in its 3rd week of Flower (way to dark green). But ill deff. Tone down my mix some more like your saying with some like a sphag.peat moss/bag soil mix and ill cut my blood down some more as well, thanks

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[Mr.Head]

Thanks MrHead, I do try my best. I Hope the last 2 pics i posted were not misleading, as the 2 girls picted are directly after a transplant before the roots hit the hot soil (semi healthy). Now the pic with the Giant Dark green Fan is a kush variant in its 3rd week of Flower (way to dark green). But ill deff. Tone down my mix some more like your saying with some like a sphag.peat moss/bag soil mix and ill cut my blood down some more as well, thanks

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What kind of kush varient? Bubbas can get real dark, so can a couple others if I'm not mistaken.

Some Bubba's I've seen are almost black they get so dark.

 

[frizzelrip]

What kind of kush varient? Bubbas can get real dark, so can a couple others if I'm not mistaken.

Some Bubba's I've seen are almost black they get so dark.

FlowerBomb kush from Greenhouse seeds, not useally what I keep around, but it was a free bee.


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[Mr.Head]

No idea about that one, supposed to be green crack x OG Kush so I'd assume it would be on the lighter side of the green spectrum. I think Green Crack is pretty light in colour during flower if I'm not mistaken, haven't grown it yet myself.

I got a Flowerbomb seed from the promo a while back, be sure to throw some finished flower pics

 

[BROBIE]

Why don't you AN haters go play on the freeway. The thread didn't ask for your stupid opinions. Hey Homebrewer, you bought a ripp off auto, you should get a GM.
Stick to the thread subject. geez. (ps - here comes brown noser Chuck)

 

[Mr.Head]

I don't think you'll be here long Brobie lol, people that do nothing but look for a fight usually don't last.

It's ok you like to spend way more then you have to, but quit trying to silence folks. Fucking fanboi's of nutrients are unbelievable, it doesn't even make sense. Are they paying you? If not then you should probably hop off your crusade, since you know they are horrible people and by defending their product you look just as horrible. Keep supporting organized crime while some of us hope for legalization, you're helping greatly....

http://www.canada.com/story.html?id=249d0161-5bc0-44ae-8bbd-274fff5c1b35

Great people you are supporting.

 

[BROBIE]

There's a war on women too... stupid puppet. You really believe that shit? THe point is you guys are on YOUR crusade telling anybody if they buy AN they are stupid. Whtat the fuck...CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK dumb ass.

 

[BROBIE]

 

[Mr.Head]

Didn't say he was stupid for buying AN. I said he should research the people behind this company if he cares about that stuff.

I am Canadian, fuckers like these are the ones holding legalization back in my country, I don't like the fact that they are associated with Canada when they have barely any involvement here, they are trying to rig the Bulgarian government because Canada's too "hot" for them right now due to their involvement with smuggling hard drugs and dealing with MC's.

Support who you want, but make an informed decision, if you buy their product knowing full well what they stand for well then sorry to say you're just as big of piece of shit as they are.

 

[BROBIE]

Didn't say he was stupid for buying AN. I said he should research the people behind this company if he cares about that stuff.

I am Canadian, fuckers like these are the ones holding legalization back in my country, I don't like the fact that they are associated with Canada when they have barely any involvement here, they are trying to rig the Bulgarian government because Canada's too "hot" for them right now due to their involvement with smuggling hard drugs and dealing with MC's.

Support who you want, but make an informed decision, if you buy their product knowing full well what they stand for well then sorry to say you're just as big of piece of shit as they are.

Well dude if you take pharms or eat food you are supporting corruption also. Say eli lilly and Monsanto. You know, those Canadian soy beans you guys poison the world with? Just like hipster do-gooder greenie asses, Judging by propaganda.

 

[Mr.Head]

Don't take pharms, eat as much organic foods as I can. That's also no comparison but w/e.

I'm not judging by propaganda either, I've used their shit PH Perfect GMB Base I had issues flowering multiple strains deficiencies galore. If their base formula can't grow perfect plants without all the other garbage what good is it? I switched to Jacks 20-20-20 and had much better grows. Now I grow organically and have even better grows than with jacks, and it's way simpler. I'm not speaking without experience, their product is shit if you don't buy the full line, the full line is a waste of money.

I can do with my soil mix what you do with 15 bottles and mine will be better. On top of that Im not contributing to the over use of synthetic ferts, but that's probably just more propaganda too, Toledo Ohio water issues weren't caused by massive run off, it's natural right?

The fact is you're paying for water and very little actual nutrients. I got three bottles of their shit in my nutrient cab that I feel horrible every time I look at them. I don't think I'm allowed to give stuff out on here, or they would be offered to someone for free.

Look up MC history in Canada, I see them no different then supporting terrorists. They turned city streets to fucking warzones, that's not propaganda, I seen that shit growing up.

 

[BROBIE]

Don't take pharms, eat as much organic foods as I can. That's also no comparison but w/e.

I'm not judging by propaganda either, I've used their shit PH Perfect GMB Base I had issues flowering multiple strains deficiencies galore. If their base formula can't grow perfect plants without all the other garbage what good is it? I switched to Jacks 20-20-20 and had much better grows. Now I grow organically and have even better grows than with jacks, and it's way simpler. I'm not speaking without experience, their product is shit if you don't buy the full line, the full line is a waste of money.

I can do with my soil mix what you do with 15 bottles and mine will be better. On top of that Im not contributing to the over use of synthetic ferts, but that's probably just more propaganda too, Toledo Ohio water issues weren't caused by massive run off, it's natural right?

The fact is you're paying for water and very little actual nutrients. I got three bottles of their shit in my nutrient cab that I feel horrible every time I look at them. I don't think I'm allowed to give stuff out on here, or they would be offered to someone for free.

Look up MC history in Canada, I see them no different then supporting terrorists. They turned city streets to fucking warzones, that's not propaganda, I seen that shit growing up.

I don't use but Sensi A&B , not 15 bottles because I am not so stupid to fall for the shit either . But these condescending AN haters constantly preaching that if you buy AN, you are so ignorant when the fact is their products are no better OR worse than the huge array of nutes available and market just like all the others. So why when somebody buys something you can't just let it be? Thread after thread, when the word ADVANCED NUTRIENTS is ant where in the thread title., here comes these Chucks Homebrewers and budmans running to the rescue informing how they have seen the light and how I fucked up buying an AN product. If I want to buy swampland that is my business. I don't need some ass bite JUDGING me on buying any product.

By the way: How is jacks organic? Is urea good runoff?

 

[Mr.Head]

No no no. Jack's isn't organic. I used 20-20-20 for a couple runs. Then I made my own soil mix, now it's the only way I grow, just a super simple mix with locally available ingredients I can get easily. I don't use any synthetics anymore save for a silica additive, I don't know if you can consider it organic. Some do some don't, I'll say it's not for arguments sake, but silica is super important to have healthy plants so I'm willing to use it either way.

Really all hydro store nutrients should be avoided, they are all over priced. All nutrients that are more water then nutrient should be avoided too, just from an economical stand point as you aren't getting what you pay for. That goes for Dyna-stuff too. I was going to buy Dynagro but shipping the water cost as much as the order came too, it's just not worth it. The mark up for shipping alone is probably 25% at the hydro store, water is heavy. Dry nutrients are where it's at, they are cheaper, and you get WAY more for your money. Even AN has some powdered nutrients, they don't advertise them as much though. I got extra tubs of dry stuff too I wasted a lot of money learning the hard way. Now I try to share it with others.

There's so much hate towards AN because they are one of the most popular and expensive out there, they have a line up that is 75% unnecessary, they target new growers, I'm proof first nutrients I bought were AN, same goes for my grower friend who started around the same time as me. Then you add in all the other shit like they are just horrible horrible people behind the company and really aren't good for the cannabis industry. It all adds up to piss people off. A few threads a day from people asking if they should buy AN the consensus is usually that they are over priced and not anything special when you wade threw all the hate, they still go out and buy it. They ask for advice and ignore it. Almost everyone who asks about AN does this, then later they come to the conclusion that AN isn't anything special and they're paying a premium for it without an added benefit.

If you take opinions out of the equation and look into what these things actually are it's pretty obvious a tub of $9.99 20/20/20 is all you need to grow great cannabis. Or even better learn about making your own soil and just give water the whole damn grow doesn't get much easier then that

 

[941mick]

No no no. Jack's isn't organic. I used 20-20-20 for a couple runs. Then I made my own soil mix, now it's the only way I grow, just a super simple mix with locally available ingredients I can get easily. I don't use any synthetics anymore save for a silica additive, I don't know if you can consider it organic. Some do some don't, I'll say it's not for arguments sake, but silica is super important to have healthy plants so I'm willing to use it either way.

Really all hydro store nutrients should be avoided, they are all over priced. All nutrients that are more water then nutrient should be avoided too, just from an economical stand point as you aren't getting what you pay for. That goes for Dyna-stuff too. I was going to buy Dynagro but shipping the water cost as much as the order came too, it's just not worth it. The mark up for shipping alone is probably 25% at the hydro store, water is heavy. Dry nutrients are where it's at, they are cheaper, and you get WAY more for your money. Even AN has some powdered nutrients, they don't advertise them as much though. I got extra tubs of dry stuff too I wasted a lot of money learning the hard way. Now I try to share it with others.

There's so much hate towards AN because they are one of the most popular and expensive out there, they have a line up that is 75% unnecessary, they target new growers, I'm proof first nutrients I bought were AN, same goes for my grower friend who started around the same time as me. Then you add in all the other shit like they are just horrible horrible people behind the company and really aren't good for the cannabis industry. It all adds up to piss people off. A few threads a day from people asking if they should buy AN the consensus is usually that they are over priced and not anything special when you wade threw all the hate, they still go out and buy it. They ask for advice and ignore it. Almost everyone who asks about AN does this, then later they come to the conclusion that AN isn't anything special and they're paying a premium for it without an added benefit.

If you take opinions out of the equation and look into what these things actually are it's pretty obvious a tub of $9.99 20/20/20 is all you need to grow great cannabis. Or even better learn about making your own soil and just give water the whole damn grow doesn't get much easier then that

New growers don't use AN from my experience. 90% of newbs that come into the store leave with either Fox Farm or GH. I would say that 75% of our AN users are experienced guys with medium to large production gardens.

Also AN discontinued the powdered products.

I'd say 50% of their products are a waste, and the other 50% work as advertised.

 

[BROBIE]

Sensi is great because it is fairly concentrated, mult-medium friendly,ph balanced and has Fulvics . All that at a very competive price. My grows seem much more stress tolerant than other plain-Jane lines like GH or Dyna.

 

[941mick]

Sensi is great because it is fairly concentrated, mult-medium friendly,ph balanced and has Fulvics . All that at a very competive price. My grows seem much more stress tolerant than other plain-Jane lines like GH or Dyna.

I like sensi too, for it's concentration. I still use sensi grow in my cloning buckets, because it keeps the pH in a good range, and I only need a half teaspoon for the 2.5 gallons. I never needed more than 4ml/gal in veg or 7ml.gal in flower with most weeks using a teaspoon or less. Many of the base nutrients can get up to 20ml/gallon, so spending an extra $10-$15 and getting something that lasts 2-3x longer makes sense in my mind....Obviously nothing can compare to the bulk nitrates on the market when it comes to cost.

 

[homebrewer]

Sensi is great because it is fairly concentrated, mult-medium friendly,ph balanced and has Fulvics . All that at a very competive price. My grows seem much more stress tolerant than other plain-Jane lines like GH or Dyna.

Speaking of your 'grows', where are they? Got a link to a journal somewhere?