Members telling me my plants are hermies?

[2Hearts]

A lot of members seem quite keen to exchange seeds or give them away, there are also a lot of old cheap breeds like skunk no1, superskunk etc that give just as good and strong yeilds as the more exspensive modern breeds.

Having a seed stash gets you through the poor times.

 

[althor]

Ok, so it is apparent you are only here for one thing. For ONE person to agree with you, even if you are dead wrong, so here....

Yeah man, that isn't a hermie, that is a lovely wonderful great growing plant that is only trying to help you out by giving you a few seeds for later use. What a great great plant that is to only throw MALE REPRODUCTION PARTS ON A FEMALE just because the plant loves you so much.....

Feel better?

 

[althor]

Have you ever considered the trait they pass on is not the male hermie but the ability to deal with stress...

I might point out that continual selfed generations have beed known to show stress to ferts and less vigour when growing PLUS MORE BANNANAS in each subsequent generation....

Id guess that fits in more with what im saying

I have no scientific evide nce on selfing and lack of vigour/resistance in marijuana but it is characterised well in other fruit n veg n trees etc and generally said to be in cannabis too.

You have no scientific evidence because it is simply not true. I have taken seeds from a herm and grown them out with no hermies, after a few generations the hermie trait will sometimes disappear.

 

[Alexander Supertramp]

Sorry to burst your bubble but it is not by definition in genetics.

I studied plant genetics as i did most subjects, school taught me well but im still learning except nothing from you and i find your whole point flawed.

What an asshole.

 

[Alexander Supertramp]

Ok, so it is apparent you are only here for one thing. For ONE person to agree with you, even if you are dead wrong, so here....

Yeah man, that isn't a hermie, that is a lovely wonderful great growing plant that is only trying to help you out by giving you a few seeds for later use. What a great great plant that is to only throw MALE REPRODUCTION PARTS ON A FEMALE just because the plant loves you so much.....

Feel better?

No he is here to try and stroke his ego. Unfortunately for him no one is buying his bullshit.

 

[Alexander Supertramp]

http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Hermaphrodite

(1) An organism (plant or animal) having both male and female reproductive organs.

(2) An organism having both male and female organs, therefore, is capable of producing both male and female gametes.


Supplement

A plant hermaphrodite for instance has both staminate and carpellate organs. In animals such as some pulmonate and opisthrobranch snails and slugs can act as either the male or female in a sexual reproduction. In humans, the term is used to describe an individual possessing both male and female organs. However, that individual may not be considered a true case of hermaphroditism since usually one of the two gonads present may not be functional. A true hermaphrodite refers to an individual in which both gonads are functional.

Hermaphrodites may be:

• simultaneous hermaphrodite - organism with both male and female reproductive organs at the same time
• sequential hermaphrodite - organism having one type of reproductive organ early in life and then the other type later in life.

 

[Alexander Supertramp]

Your advice stinks!

Don't let door hit you in the ass on the way out then....

 

[tip top toker]

This is the guy who was trying to argue that a certain soil was way too hot for seedlings despite me telling him I used it every soil grow without a single instance of burn.

 

[2Hearts]

Cool whatever guys, the thread carries both sides of the debate.

Maybe you do grow in verve seedling soil with no burn but i dont, i like being opinionated

 

[tip top toker]

Everyone can make be wrong, misinformed, make mistakes. There's is nothing wrong or weak about accepting such a thing and learning as a result.

 

[2Hearts]

100% point '2' below, fem selfed plants cant produce male female gamets only female (genetics) and my point (where are you getting the male from?)

Some growers who understand genetics will understand my point (as this point '2' points out

http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Hermaphrodite

(1) An organism (plant or animal) having both male and female reproductive organs.

(2) An organism having both male and female organs, therefore, is capable of producing both male and female gametes.


Supplement

A plant hermaphrodite for instance has both staminate and carpellate organs. In animals such as some pulmonate and opisthrobranch snails and slugs can act as either the male or female in a sexual reproduction. In humans, the term is used to describe an individual possessing both male and female organs. However, that individual may not be considered a true case of hermaphroditism since usually one of the two gonads present may not be functional. A true hermaphrodite refers to an individual in which both gonads are functional.

Hermaphrodites may be:

• simultaneous hermaphrodite - organism with both male and female reproductive organs at the same time
• sequential hermaphrodite - organism having one type of reproductive organ early in life and then the other type later in life.

 

[2Hearts]

Your looking on the wrong level as ive already stated...

 

[2Hearts]

2) An organism having both male and female organs, therefore, capable of producing male and female gametes.

A hemaphodite, this is what im saying and anything else isn't, what arent you getting and why i failed to see the need to go any futher, they teach this stuff at a very basic level most would understand!!!

 

[2Hearts]

Just i dont need to quote from the Biology Online Dictionary or any other source since i already know all these things.

Why did you feel the need to back up what ive said from the first post on the fourth page from a reputable source¿

 

[2Hearts]

Im guessing you just googled the word 'GAMETE' for the first time in your lives...

 

[althor]

2) An organism having both male and female organs, therefore, capable of producing male and female gametes.

A hemaphodite, this is what im saying and anything else isn't, what arent you getting and why i failed to see the need to go any futher, they teach this stuff at a very basic level most would understand!!!

Because that is only one part of the many meanings of hermaphodite. They may be different types of herm, but they are both still herms. Considering that late nanners can produce seeds, then it does produce "sperm".

 

[2Hearts]

It dosent matter, everyone sees the point and that your argument seems weak.

Who are you to redefine the standard model of genetics please?

 

[2Hearts]

I loved the way they synthesised the experimental Ebola vaccine in tobacco leaves, pure genetics at work from a little bit of dna...

 

[tip top toker]

Who are you to declare what other people see? That's as retarded as it gets.

I can't be bothered to read the big debate, all I've seen it this.

"How does a supposed herm pass on the male part when it has none!"

Lol. Out of curiosity, how do you define a supposed herm?

 

[2Hearts]

I refer to Mendels pea crosses to give ratios in sex and flower colour,

your points just dont factor into this so really your talking BS and this involves gametes as does hemaphoditism but your saying different.

Simply try and produce the ratios for hermie and youll understand implicitly!!!!