Hot Diggity Sog
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OK...I'll try and estimate my gradual increases in 100 to 150 PPM increments then!I still don't rthink you should to up the dosage more than maximum 150 ppm at the time..
OK...I'll try and estimate my gradual increases in 100 to 150 PPM increments then!I still don't rthink you should to up the dosage more than maximum 150 ppm at the time..
1 Unit of EC = 700 PPM. Now that is just plain simple!I did not know you can calculate EC from PPM. Genius!
Because my salt content is unknown, is it safe to assume that if I use a LOT of water on each feeding that it should be flushing as I water?Very good! ppm and EC both measures electrical conductivity, just on different scales. 500 ppm = EC 0.714. So that's not high at all. they should easely be able to handle a ppm of 750-900 ppm given that your coco isn't very salty. if you water a plant very slowly and catch the runoff, you can measure that runoff to get an idea. You don't want the runoff to be much higher than the feeding you give them.
Missed this post: Yeah that guy seems to have dialed in his strain pretty well! Kudos to him! Dealing with clones is an advantage in that way!I have not read that but I will right now.
I have never removed fan leaves (at least that I can remember) so I will have to not only be careful but will need to do some controlled tests. Perhaps I will do no defoliating on some, minor on some and major on some and just log the results.
Here is another grower that I studied and his results are undeniable:
http://www.420magazine.com/forums/completed-journals/149813-2-liter-hempy-sog-4.html
He is pretty dialed in and defoliates at day 21 and again at day 45 if I memory serves.
2L bottles are what...4 or 4.5 inches wide? He has them side by side...no spacing.
I have read about making my own Fem seeds and it is certainly worth a try. Depending on how this experiment goes, I was planning on picking the best 2 or 3 strains and then purchasing regular seeds from Attitude and simply grow these out and pick what appears to to be the best male and female from each strain and interbreed to create my own seed stock.
It was a long time since i read up on the subject. I do remember that you could buy a prepared spray on ebay. I thing it's super-interesting. You will probably end up with some genetical diversity. More or less, depending on what parents (mother-shemale lol) you use.I think the best way would be to use two genetically distant in-bread lines such as NL or afghani and a stable haze from a reputable breeder, and in that way achieving a pure F1.. Or maybe selfing a very in-bread line.. I'm currently looking at Santa maria, from No mercy seeds for the selfing project. It's supposedly back crossed for 8 generations. Still selfing isn't suposed to really give you the "clone in a seed" we would optimally like to have for gardens like ours.. But maybe close, and incredibly cheap! Not to mention the fun of it!Regarding making fem seeds, these are the notes I have taken. If anyone has personal experience doing so please chime in!
How to Fem Seeds
http://forum.grasscity.com/advanced-growing-techniques/1179921-diy-sts-silver-thiosulfate-solution-how-guide-reversing-plants.html
Other chemical based options
gibberellic acid
A Product using G. Acid
http://www.valent.com/Data/Labels/20...004-5005r4.pdf
G. Acid is prolly worth the go.
Next feeding/watering will be in 2 days. I will increase nute regiment 20% giving me an approximate PPM of 600. Barely had enough water too. Think I will prepare 7 gallons next time.Seems a little low but if your plants are looking healthy keep with what works.
Feeding them low will not harm the plants.. BUT, feeding them harder could result in quicker growth, and quicker maturing/flowering plants with tighter node spacing... This is less important if you are dealing with clones, cause they will stretch less and kick start flowering. Starving clones can be an excellent way to keep Clones/plants on hold until you have space in your flower room.. Though preferably with a little less light intensity, than a 600 w MH is giving..Seems a little low but if your plants are looking healthy keep with what works.
Sounds like a good plan!Next feeding/watering will be in 2 days. I will increase nute regiment 20% giving me an approximate PPM of 600. Barely had enough water too. Think I will prepare 7 gallons next time.
My advice was sound, keeping it simple prevents you from burning your plants and some strains don't need 1500 ppms. I apologize mr expert I promise I won't offer any advice anymore.Feeding them low will not harm the plants.. BUT, feeding them harder could result in quicker growth, and quicker maturing/flowering plants with tighter node spacing... This is less important if you are dealing with clones, cause they will stretch less and kick start flowering. Starving clones can be an excellent way to keep Clones/plants on hold until you have space in your flower room.. Though preferably with a little less light intensity, than a 600 w MH is giving..
Seriously, what would the world look like if we always sticked to "what works"? Maybe we never would have lost that eden.. but we would neither have grown sensimilla, hydrophonicly, under artificial lighting..
Sorry if i was a bit harsh, but I've always hated that argument, please don't get offended! It seems to me as you guys are soil growers? Coco is inert and should be treated like hydro! If you think about it that way maybe my advice sounds less absurd.. I've only grown in coco and never in soil, so this is all i know.. I would never suggest going up to 1500 PPM. until the most explosive flowering period, and not all strains takes it well even at that stage. Most of my grows, i haven't past 1300 ppm, and i could never do it in summer time.. But this winter i intend to push it as far as i can. I've read that you can push it further without ill effects if you pull back on nitrogen.. But if that's true remains to be seen.My advice was sound, keeping it simple prevents you from burning your plants and some strains don't need 1500 ppms. I apologize mr expert I promise I won't offer any advice anymore.
In fact, if you want to know what is going wrong with your grow if anything the best way to eliminate the details is to use the same thing you have been using. It is easier to adjust something that is constant than it is to try and play guess n check.
My bad dude, not your fault at all. I have some mental issues so until I medicate I can get that feeling like im backed into a wall or whatnot. My apologies for taking it wrong. You are completely right about the coco, I am doing soil for my organic and I have one ebb and flow 2x4 tray that is testing out hydro. I am really surprised at how long my res stays > 1000 ppm. The plants take what they want and leave the rest and the res is nice and clean still. This plant never ceases to amaze me.Sorry if i was a bit harsh, but I've always hated that argument, please don't get offended! It seems to me as you guys are soil growers? Coco is inert and should be treated like hydro! If you think about it that way maybe my advice sounds less absurd.. I've only grown in coco and never in soil, so this is all i know.. I would never suggest going up to 1500 PPM. until the most explosive flowering period, and not all strains takes it well even at that stage. Most of my grows, i haven't past 1300 ppm, and i could never do it in summer time.. But this winter i intend to push it as far as i can. I've read that you can push it further without ill effects if you pull back on nitrogen.. But if that's true remains to be seen.
This is my first hydro run ever, I was following the Lucas Formula as it is really simple for someone new to follow. Usually I just use soil but I am searching for the best way that I can grow personally. Once I find out what works for me I will play with the formula more and start taking heavy notes about even the most minute details so I can try to understand more.No worries bro! It might also be a clash of culture differences. I know that north European people are more straight forward than Americans, we even talk politics lol. Maybe have to play things more low-key so that I don't scare away people from this thread.. The fact that your Rez stays the same should mean that your plants take up nutes and water at an equal pace. The question is if they would drink more if you fed them heavier? I've never done the real hydro-thing, so can't do anything but ask questions.
Americans don't talk politics because of their blind party loyalty, makes for not much of a conversation when their side of the aisle can do no wrong, seems like there are very few Americans that vote for the substance of the candidate rather then what Animal their party is represented by, fuck the elephants you know?. Conservatives are trying to bring that to Canada now, it's worked the last couple elections, this next one is setting up for a huge defeat of their Americanized system.No worries bro! It might also be a clash of culture differences. I know that north European people are more straight forward than Americans, we even talk politics lol. Maybe have to play things more low-key so that I don't scare away people from this thread.. The fact that your Rez stays the same should mean that your plants take up nutes and water at an equal pace. The question is if they would drink more if you fed them heavier? I've never done the real hydro-thing, so can't do anything but ask questions.