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hyroot

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If purity has nothing to do with melting how come the food grade bags of bubble do not melt the same as the smoke bag grades of the exact same strain, eh? You have an explanation for that or are you just going to ignore the OBVIOUS fact that this is true?

Green matter does not melt. Does it? Nor do capitate stalks.. DO THEY? No, so your argument about purity not mattering is complete and utter bullshit, but we already knew that.

Dry sift is made from dry material that's usually already been aged for weeks and/or months. Lol.

And who said I don't cure it? The point is you DO NOT NEED TO, dry sift has already been curing for a long time before it's ever made, it's not fresh off the plant wet like most hash makers are doing, get a grip.

Sure, you can cure dry sift for years.. to what end? To prove to people you can stick something in the freezer and make it a bit more potent? Congrats *clap*. I don't care if it's been cured for 9 months or a year, and nor do the people judging contests around the globe as the majority of those hashes are made a month or two prior to cup events and then entered and they still win over anything else that's been entered.

Coincidence? Absolutely not.

Are you really that stupid. You keep twisting words. Where did I ever say green matter melts? Quit putting words in my mouth. Fucking drama queens man..... Melting is solely based on the amount of soluble terpene oils that are present. Thats a scientific fact.

You obviously never learned how things work.


Where did I ever say anything about a freezer? Again quit putting words in my mouth! Its a fact that curing improves potency. Terpenes improve over time. Especially long periods of time. Do you know what decarboxylation does? Obviously not or you wouldn't make such ignorant posts that make no sense at all.

A bit of advice go back to school and pay attention this time.


@Frenchy Cannoli please school this guy. I have such a low tolerance for this shit.
 

MnH

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Are you really that stupid. You keep twisting words. Where did I ever say green matter melts? Quit putting words in my mouth. Fucking drama queens man..... Melting is solely based on the amount of soluble terpene oils that are present. Thats a scientific fact.

You obviously never learned how things work.

Where did I ever say anything about a freezer? Again quit putting words in my mouth! Its a fact that curing improves potency. Do you know what decarboxylation does? Obviously not or you wouldn't make such ignorant posts that make no sense at all.

A bit of advice go back to school and pay attention this time.
I didn't twist anything, I quoted you directly, and everyone can see that.

You said purity has nothing to do with melting.. and it does.

Are you ever going to explain why the food grade bags of the EXACT same strain do not melt like the smoking bags?

I'll give you a hint.. it's because it's not as pure with resin ;)

Good lord.

As for the freezer comment.. umm.. yes that's how you store hash long term. What do you think? People keep it in a non airtight spot out in their bedroom? C'mon..

Me learn? lol
 
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hyroot

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I didn't twist anything, I quoted you directly, and everyone can see that.

You said purity has nothing to do with melting.. and it does.

Are you ever going to explain why the food grade bags of the EXACT same strain do not melt like the smoking bags?

I'll give you a hint.. it's because it's not as pure with resin ;)

Good lord.

smoke grade bags are the same as food grade bags. They are made from the same material.No you did not quote me. You are making shit up obviously. Purity and melting again have nothing to do with each other. it depends on how much soluble terpene oils are present and that depends on genetics / strain. genius.


please read through this


http://medicalmarijuana.com/marijuana-expert/Matt-Rize

and this


I have an article that I wanted to share, Weed World #112.
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MnH

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smoke grade bags are the same as food grade bags. They are made from the same material.No you did not quote me. You are making shit up obviously. Purity and melting again have nothing to do with each other. it depends on how much soluble terpene oils are present and that depends on genetics / strain. genius.

please read through this

http://medicalmarijuana.com/marijuana-expert/Matt-Rize
Really? It was less than 10 mins ago, how high are you dipshit?

Why do you cherry pick certain parts and try to twist it around ? Are you arguing for the sake of arguing?

Yes we are after clean hash. My point was purity and melting have nothing to do with each other. Now every hash maker cure their hash for at least 6 weeks. Shit, Matt Rize cures his ice wax for a minimum of 9 months. Frenchy even had some 5 year cured hash at Chalice. Bubbleman man had his famous 10 year cured hash. Just like with buds the longer you cure the better the flavor. Most people want that long cured hash, ice wax or buds. For one the terpenes polymerize and also decarboxilation takes place. Causing the release of co2 gases and the thca converting to thc and break down of chlorophyll.Curing for a long time is a major part of the growing, hash making and ice wax making process. Not curing is just plain stupid and waste of a grow.

Go ahead and don't cure your stuff. No one will want to smoke it.

Btw candy kush will not melt.
But yeah, you didn't say that and clearly i'm making things up alright.

Congrats on getting lost easily.

I have read that article many times and I have made 99% sift thousands upon thousands of times since 2003 when I figured out my tek.. and guess how many strains melted?

All of them. Including your original Kandy Kush that I had back in 2006/7 before it was all crossed up and ruined.

If you are claiming it's only due to soluble terps, you're basically saying that 2 year old, dry as hell, not oily anymore/terpy etc. resin shouldn't melt when made right? It's lost all of it's vigor right?
 

hyroot

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Really? It was less than 10 mins ago, how high are you dipshit?



But yeah, you didn't say that and clearly i'm making things up alright.

Congrats on getting lost easily.

i did say purity and melting have nothing to do with each other and the whole world will agree. . Where did I say anything about a freezer or green matter melting? I didn't, you made that up.
 

MnH

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smoke grade bags are the same as food grade bags. They are made from the same material.No you did not quote me. You are making shit up obviously. Purity and melting again have nothing to do with each other. it depends on how much soluble terpene oils are present and that depends on genetics / strain. genius.
please read through this

http://medicalmarijuana.com/marijuana-expert/Matt-Rize

and this
They're the same? So all grades from your same run all melts the same and you get the same price for all of your bags off the same run? They all melt to nothing and look identical under a scope?

Show us.
 

MnH

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i did say purity and melting have nothing to do with each other and the whole world will agree. . Where did I say anything about a freezer or green matter melting? I didn't, you made that up.
So what you're telling us is that you don't understand what 'purity' means in hash?

Got it.

Prove to us that your 160 bag and 190 bag melt the same as your 45/73 bags.

All the same shit right?
 
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hyroot

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They're the same? So all grades from your same run all melts the same and you get the same price for all of your bags off the same run? They all melt to nothing and look identical under a scope?

Show us.
when you say food grade. that means it safe and not full of toxins and chemicals. just like you want a washer with food grade plastic.

you meant to say screen used for edibles. my 120 - 25 all melt the same
 

MnH

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when you say food grade. that means it safe and not full of toxins and chemicals.

you meant edible hash. my 120 - 25 all melt the same
Oh so now YOU are twisting words, got it.. I specifically mention the 160/190 bags and now it's you talking about 'no toxins!!' hahahahaha..

Backpeddling is fun, kids.
 

hyroot

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Oh so now YOU are twisting words, got it.. I specifically mention the 160/190 bags and now it's you talking about 'no toxins!!' hahahahaha..

Backpeddling is fun, kids.

i was telling you the definition of food grade. You mispoke and thats your own fault,. the 190 is trash. the 160 you can cook with or smoke. as long as you clean it with ro water.

you need a dictionary
 

MnH

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i was telling you the definition of food grade. You mispoke and thats your own fault, rthe 190 is trash. the 160 you can cook with or smoke. as long as you clean it with ro water.
So you're saying you didn't understand what i've been talking about this entire time? Really?

You said it's all the same though? Purity doesn't matter? Why is the 190 trash? You said yourself it's all the same and purity has nothing to do with melting.. so if it's the same FUCKING STRAIN AS THE OTHER BAGS, why won't it melt??

Keep backing yourself into that corner dude, clearly you know what you're talking about.

If purity and melting don't go hand in hand, why make clean hash? Why not just go after the right genetics and make yield like a muh fucker? Screw different bags, just make it all in the work bag and dump it right into the 45 and YIELD BRO!!

Because purity doesn't matter, right?
 
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hyroot

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So you're saying you didn't understand what i've been talking about this entire time? Really?

You said it's all the same though? Purity doesn't matter? Why is the 190 trash? You said yourself it's all the same and purity has nothing to do with melting.. so if it's the same FUCKING STRAIN AS THE OTHER BAGS, why won't it melt??

Keep backing yourself into that corner dude, clearly you know what you're talking about.

the terpene oils are in the trichome heads. the 190 doesn't have any trichome heads. just plant matter.,

when you said food grade I thought you meant the quality of the material the bags are made from. Thats what anyone would think.

I never said purity doesn't matter., I said purity has nothing to do with melting.

how am i backing myself in the corner. ive stated fact after fact and you keep making these ignorant posts that make zero sense. I bet you have never made hash in your life


You are definitely a very slow learner
 

MnH

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the
terpene oils are in the trichome heads. the 190 doesn't have any trichome heads. just plant matter.,

when you said food grade I thought you meant the quality of the material the bags are made from. Thats what anyone would think.

how am i backing myself in the corner. ive stated fact after fact and you keep making these ignorant posts that make zero sense. I bet you have never made hash in your life
Whoa back up.. you said purity doesn't matter in melting?

Purity would SPECIFICALLY mean resin head vs. plant matter genius, would it not? What the hell do you think the word PURITY fucking means in this manner of speaking? Something completely different than the ABSOLUTE OBVIOUS?

Thanks for proving your own bullshit wrong though.. that doesn't happen very often, usually people don't go in circles only to help me show i'm correct lol.

So by your own logic now, it's based on there being resin heads there, huh? Because only those melt.. which would prove me right when I said purity does matter in melt, because capitate stalks and green matter do not melt.

Thanks again. #omg
 

hyroot

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Whoa back up.. you said purity doesn't matter in melting?

Purity would SPECIFICALLY mean resin head vs. plant matter genius, would it not? What the hell do you think the word PURITY fucking means in this manner of speaking? Something completely different than the ABSOLUTE OBVIOUS?

Thanks for proving your own bullshit wrong though.. that doesn't happen very often, usually people don't go in circles only to help me show i'm correct lol.

I never used the words doesn't matter. I said it has nothing to do with melting. That has 2 different meanings. Again you are twisting my words.

You still don't make any sense

look up soluble terpene oils


purity


the condition or quality of being pure; freedom from anything that debases, contaminates, pollutes, etc.:


now again melting has nothing do with contaminants. it depends on how much solunle terpen oils are present SOLUBLE
 

MnH

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I never used the words doesn't matter. I said it has nothing to do with melting. That has 2 different meanings. Again you are twisting my words.

look up soluble terpene oils
So you're telling us all that capitate stalks and green matter melt?

Why does one bag of hash melt and the others do not during the same exact run? You already figured this out on your own.. purity.

LOL.. cripes
 

hyroot

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So you're telling us all that capitate stalks and green matter melt?

Why does one bag of hash melt and the others do not during the same exact run? You already figured this out on your own.. purity.

LOL.. cripes

I never said green matter melts. My 25, 45, 73, 90, 120 and all melt. except for when I do candy kush. It doesn't melt at all. Different bags have different size heads. Again it depends the amount of soluble terpenes present .
 

MnH

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I never used the words doesn't matter. I said it has nothing to do with melting. That has 2 different meanings. Again you are twisting my words.

You still don't make any sense

look up soluble terpene oils

purity

the condition or quality of being pure; freedom from anything that debases, contaminates, pollutes, etc.:

now again melting has nothing do with contaminants. it depends on how much solunle terpen oils are present SOLUBLE
Now again, why doesn't your 160 or 190 bag melt vs. your others in the exact same run?

You ever going to answer this or just go in circles? Are you claiming the other bags melt better because there is more resin present? You know that is the exact definition of the word 'purity' yes?

Lol.
 

MnH

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I never said green matter melts. My 25, 45, 73, 90 and 120 all melt. except for when I do candy kush. It doesn't melt at all. Different bags have different size heads. Again it depends the amount of soluble terpenes present .
You claimed purity has nothing to do with melt, and you are claiming that your melty grades have less green matter in them and melt.. odd?

If it depends on the amount of soluble terps, wouldn't 2 year or 3 year old dry material that hasn't been cared for, lose all of those oils and dry up/not melt when turned into pure sift?

That's your own logic ^^ .. do you agree that's true?
 

hyroot

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Now again, why doesn't your 160 or 190 bag melt vs. your others in the exact same run?

You ever going to answer this or just go in circles? Are you claiming the other bags melt better because there is more resin present? You know that is the exact definition of the word 'purity' yes?

Lol.
because obviously theres no soluble terpene oils in those heads. there isnt any resins in the 190 bag. You really dug your self a hole., you are the one who keeps going in circles repeating the same made up shiot over and over. I
 

hyroot

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You claimed purity has nothing to do with melt, and you are claiming that your melty grades have less green matter in them and melt.. odd?

If it depends on the amount of soluble terps, wouldn't 2 year or 3 year old dry material that hasn't been cared for, lose all of those oils and dry up/not melt when turned into pure sift?

That's your own logic ^^ .. do you agree that's true?

no. as hash cures it becomes more greasy. Soluble doesn not mean degrades.Soluble means able to dissolve. Dissolve means become or cause to become incorporated into a liquid so as to form a solution.
 
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