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Padawanbater2

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You found christian missionaries decapitating those who refuse to convert?
What about the death penalty in Uganda for being homosexual, explicitly promoted by USA Christians?

"Both male and female homosexual activity is illegal. Under the Penal Code, "carnal knowledge against the order of nature" between two males carries a potential penalty of life imprisonment and executions/torture are allowed with no legal liabilities for the executioners.

In November 2012, the speaker of the Parliament of Uganda promised to enact a revised anti-homosexuality bill, providing for harsher penalties against suspected LGBT people and anyone who fails to report them to authorities, including long-term imprisonment and the death penalty for what the law terms "repeat offenders".

Torture and executions occur and police participate or turn a blind eye to it."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Uganda
 

Winter Woman

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I think that they could have changed the laws when Uganda became independent in 1962 or they could have changed them after independence in the 52 years since. I think you need to take that up with the Ugandans.

btw, I very quickly read the link where did it reference Christians?
 

Padawanbater2

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I think that they could have changed the laws when Uganda became independent in 1962 or they could have changed them after independence in the 52 years since. I think you need to take that up with the Ugandans.

btw, I very quickly read the link where did it reference Christians?
"The bill was signed into law by the President of Uganda on 24 February 2014."

"From 5 to 8 March 2009, a workshop took place in Kampala, the capital of Uganda, that featured three American evangelical Christians: Scott Lively, an author who has written several books opposing homosexuality; Caleb Lee Brundidge, a self-professed former gay man who conducts sessions to heal homosexuality; and Don Schmierer, a board member of Exodus International, an organisation devoted to promoting "freedom from homosexuality through the power of Jesus Christ". The theme of the conference, according to The New York Times, was the "gay agenda": "how to make gay people straight, how gay men often sodomized teenage boys and how 'the gay movement is an evil institution' whose goal is 'to defeat the marriage-based society and replace it with a culture of sexual promiscuity' ". An Anglican priest from Zambia named Kapya Kaoma was in attendance, and reported on the conference. Ugandan Stephen Langa organised it, and was supported by Lively, who asserted in his workshops that homosexuality was akin to child molestation and bestiality, and causes higher rates of divorce and HIV transmission. Lively's emphasis was on the cohesion of the African family, that he said was being threatened by "homosexuals looking to recruit youth into their ranks". According to Kaoma, during the conference, one of the thousands of Ugandans in attendance announced, "[The parliament] feels it is necessary to draft a new law that deals comprehensively with the issue of homosexuality and...takes into account the international gay agenda... Right now there is a proposal that a new law be drafted."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Anti-Homosexuality_Act,_2014
 

AlecTheGardener

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I think that they could have changed the laws when Uganda became independent in 1962 or they could have changed them after independence in the 52 years since. I think you need to take that up with the Ugandans.

btw, I very quickly read the link where did it reference Christians?
http://www.newsrecord.co/the-power-of-american-evangelicalism-in-uganda/

http://m.news24.com/news24/Africa/News/US-missionaries-behind-Ugandas-anti-gay-law-20140226

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/world/africa/04uganda.html
 

desert dude

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Three American Christians, a number between 2 and four, held a conference in Uganda and denounced homosexuality. These three say they did not intend for the Ugandans to create a death-penalty for gays in Uganda.

Do you think that was their intention, to persuade Ugandans to put homosexuals to death, or do you think that is on the Ugandans themselves?

"Now the three Americans are finding themselves on the defensive, saying they had no intention of helping stoke the kind of anger that could lead to what came next: a bill to impose a death sentence for homosexual behavior."
 

Padawanbater2

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Three American Christians, a number between 2 and four, held a conference in Uganda and denounced homosexuality. These three say they did not intend for the Ugandans to create a death-penalty for gays in Uganda.

Do you think that was their intention, to persuade Ugandans to put homosexuals to death, or do you think that is on the Ugandans themselves?
"Now the three Americans are finding themselves on the defensive, saying they had no intention of helping stoke the kind of anger that could lead to what came next: a bill to impose a death sentence for homosexual behavior."
"For three days, according to participants and audio recordings, thousands of Ugandans, including police officers, teachers and national politicians, listened raptly to the Americans, who were presented as experts on homosexuality. The visitors discussed how to make gay people straight, how gay men often sodomized teenage boys and how “the gay movement is an evil institution” whose goal is “to defeat the marriage-based society and replace it with a culture of sexual promiscuity.”

They knew exactly what they were doing, and they justified it using Christianity.
 

Winter Woman

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3 people swayed the whole Ugandan Parliament (I think it would be a Parliament since they were a British colony) I find that hard to believe. But I will say that I don't believe in trying to make anyone do anything they don't want to or stopping them from doing what they want to. I most certainly don't believe gays should be given the death penalty.
 

UncleBuck

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Don't compare someone who stabs women and beheads a defenseless female co-worker in the name of islam to someone who is only talking about religion. If you can't figure it out - death is the difference.
so when christian warriors blow up abortion clinics and murder doctors, are they acting in the name of christianity?
 

UncleBuck

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Three American Christians, a number between 2 and four, held a conference in Uganda and denounced homosexuality. These three say they did not intend for the Ugandans to create a death-penalty for gays in Uganda.

Do you think that was their intention, to persuade Ugandans to put homosexuals to death, or do you think that is on the Ugandans themselves?
"Now the three Americans are finding themselves on the defensive, saying they had no intention of helping stoke the kind of anger that could lead to what came next: a bill to impose a death sentence for homosexual behavior."
scott lively, christian american, went over there with the express purpose of helping them author a bill condemning homosexuals to death by the state.

is he acting in the name of christianity?
 

UncleBuck

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3 people swayed the whole Ugandan Parliament (I think it would be a Parliament since they were a British colony) I find that hard to believe. But I will say that I don't believe in trying to make anyone do anything they don't want to or stopping them from doing what they want to. I most certainly don't believe gays should be given the death penalty.
so when christian terrorists blew up lesbian bars, killing the people inside, were they acting in the name of christianity?
 

NoDrama

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so when christian terrorists blew up lesbian bars, killing the people inside, were they acting in the name of christianity?
Yeah dude, you know Jesus hates him some Lesbos. Pretty sure it's in the Bible about Jesus smiting some rug munchers, Leviticus or something.
 
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