a mongo frog
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there are reasons for moms. your situation doesn't need them, but some peoples do.
Cloning a clone of a clone?
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Dankfactory
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Considering you could fit many cuttings underneath the same light in which you would utilize to light your Mother, I can't see a single reason to keep one. Not to mention its simply an inferior way to produce clones since much of the growth will be aged with woody stems( not conducive to fast rooting clones.)
Care to elaborate on a single reason why a Mother is required instead of fresh rounds of endless succulent cuttings?
a mongo frog
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i have no idea what this means. i did get the part where your having trouble rooting cuts. but thats about it.
colonuggs
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now guys come on ....you never heard of the 7 year old bonzi marijuana moms??
You can pull 25-30 cuts a month.... this is a 7 year old bonzi mom
Plant # 4 is 5 years old
Before trimming, Plant was let go... no fert added nasty looking to show how resilient marijuana really is
trimmed down to this
once a year you have to trim the root ball
and add fresh growing medium
Same plant...30 days later
with new growth and cuttings just waiting to be taken
When you grow bonzi moms.... you have to take your cuttings or trim the plant once a month.... don't matter if you need the cutting or not..... you have to keep the bonzi trimmed up
you can keep a lot of strains in a small area ......look 24 different strains bonzi moms in a 2 ft x 4 ft area
You can pull 25-30 cuts a month.... this is a 7 year old bonzi mom
Plant # 4 is 5 years old
Before trimming, Plant was let go... no fert added nasty looking to show how resilient marijuana really is
trimmed down to this
once a year you have to trim the root ball
and add fresh growing medium
Same plant...30 days later
with new growth and cuttings just waiting to be taken
When you grow bonzi moms.... you have to take your cuttings or trim the plant once a month.... don't matter if you need the cutting or not..... you have to keep the bonzi trimmed up
you can keep a lot of strains in a small area ......look 24 different strains bonzi moms in a 2 ft x 4 ft area
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GrowerGoneWild
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^^^ Nice post, I've been trimming the rootball for my moms in DWC. Nice to see my instinct was right..
Very efficient setup. Its kinda wierd how you can keep annual plants stuck in veg with no problems for years.
Very efficient setup. Its kinda wierd how you can keep annual plants stuck in veg with no problems for years.
Doer
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I know, I know. High Times is and has always been a front for the DEA, imo. I am glad you took this in the spirit intended. Me? I have abandoned these hippy superstitions designed to keep the blackmarket prices high.
I read up on Botany. It is just a weed and seems more hardy and easy to grow than tomatoes, for example.
The rooting auxin being more concentrated lower down, means I grab some of those low straggley sucker branches that will never amount to anything, after one month of Veg and pop those in a cloner. Works fine. Rooted clones are ready to go for the next month's start.
There is another myth. The Mom doesn't have to be 3 month old. It is a nice to have, is all, for keeping variety. Every month I take low clones from 1 month old clones and every month I replant the ones from last month. A flow of green.
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Doer
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a mongo frog
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And you said you didn't keep mother plants. And then DankFactory came in here looking to troll. Awesome set up man. very fucking cool. And thanks for the quick lesson on that root pruning. very cool.now guys come on ....you never heard of the 7 year old bonzi marijuana moms??
You can pull 25-30 cuts a month.... this is a 7 year old bonzi mom
Plant # 4 is 5 years old
Before trimming, Plant was let go... no fert added nasty looking to show how resilient marijuana really is
trimmed down to this
once a year you have to trim the root ball
and add fresh growing medium
Same plant...30 days later
When you grow bonzi moms.... you have to take your cuttings or trim the plant once a month.... don't matter if you need the cutting or not..... you have to keep the bonzi trimmed up
you can keep a lot of strains in a small area ......look 24 different strains bonzi moms in a 2 ft x 4 ft area
torontoke
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Well
Great set up man
Your almost a baskin robbins with that selection.
im glad im not the only one who still does this then.now guys come on ....you never heard of the 7 year old bonzi marijuana moms??
You can pull 25-30 cuts a month.... this is a 7 year old bonzi mom
Plant # 4 is 5 years old
Before trimming, Plant was let go... no fert added nasty looking to show how resilient marijuana really is
trimmed down to this
once a year you have to trim the root ball
and add fresh growing medium
Same plant...30 days later
When you grow bonzi moms.... you have to take your cuttings or trim the plant once a month.... don't matter if you need the cutting or not..... you have to keep the bonzi trimmed up
you can keep a lot of strains in a small area ......look 24 different strains bonzi moms in a 2 ft x 4 ft area
Great set up man
Your almost a baskin robbins with that selection.
Doer
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He did say those were his.
Aeroknow
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I keep moms. I also snap cuts off of plants before i throw plants into flower. I mean, there is no set rule here! It's all about: whatever's clever
One good reason to have mommas: You grow SOG, and do not veg your plants
much before flower. That is just one reason
Dankfactory
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Your second point sort of conflicts with the ideology of keeping a Mother. By Mother, I mean a dedicated mother. One that someone( the naive grower) keeps because he is under the illusion that he's getting "pure" first gen genetics. Rotating vegged out plants into SOG, is just that: you're simply throwing a larger plant into SOG. The first part of your reply falls in line with the most efficient and superior method however: i.e: Take what you need from the plants you just threw into bloom. The cuttings will be thick soft fresh growth, and you're not stuck with a woody & aged dedicated Mother taking up valuable real estate in the garden.I keep moms. I also snap cuts off of plants before i throw plants into flower. I mean, there is no set rule here! It's all about: whatever's clever
One good reason to have mommas: You grow SOG, and do not veg your plants
much before flower. That is just one reason
Aeroknow
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So look: if i'm growing SOG style, and my plants are not going to be vegged large enough to snap cuts from, i keep mommas!
If i'm growing trees, i can usually snap cuts from plants before they are flowered. But you'll still find mommas around because I have a lot of flavors, that aren't always in the rotation
And, I have allot of different cycles going at once.And then: i blow shit up outdoor also. I have allot of flavors i
Grow outside, that I don't rock indoor. Gotta keep the momma material around.
Why are you so anti-momma? Because you don't have a big veg room like some? Because you don't need to?
Just because you don't need mommas(and thats cool dude), doesn't
mean others don't also.
I grow many different ways, for MANY years, and like I had said: whatever's clever!
Paperroller24
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that's pretty amazing you can manage to keep a plant growing in such a small container for so long.
st0wandgrow
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now guys come on ....you never heard of the 7 year old bonzi marijuana moms??
You can pull 25-30 cuts a month.... this is a 7 year old bonzi mom
Plant # 4 is 5 years old
Before trimming, Plant was let go... no fert added nasty looking to show how resilient marijuana really is
trimmed down to this
once a year you have to trim the root ball
and add fresh growing medium
Same plant...30 days later
When you grow bonzi moms.... you have to take your cuttings or trim the plant once a month.... don't matter if you need the cutting or not..... you have to keep the bonzi trimmed up
you can keep a lot of strains in a small area ......look 24 different strains bonzi moms in a 2 ft x 4 ft area
That's a really kick ass set up!
I used to keep mamas, but I don't anymore. I'm in a medical state, and I grow 6 different strains in a perpetual garden. 6 mamas would mean 6 less plants I could flower. Plus, as someone mentioned above, I find that I get cuts to root faster, and ultimately be a more vigorous plant than a clone taken from a year+ old mother plant.
Dankfactory
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Exactly. It's a pointless endeavor. Throw them in bloom, rip cuts before they start throwing pistils. Done. Nothing but an endless cycle of soft fresh cuts.
a mongo frog
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Bro wake up. Not every one grows the same way. Stop trolling. Go back and work on the dank factory. Quit acting like you only know the way. Its depressing.
i do what you mentioned with all my strains. no loss in anything whatsoever. if anything they get stronger as the plant gets accustomed to your conditions and grow style. if the plant loses something doing the mentioned method it is caused by something else. not from taking clone after clone after clone. but i always take my clone in veg state i dont know if triggering flower and reverting every single time can cause stress and mutations. i dont imagine so. but i think its still better to take clones primarily from veg state. not to say i havent cloned in flower to reveg if needed. just dont make a regular practice of it.
my longest one ive had going is my first strain i obtained. KENS GDP. ive taken a clone from a clone which was a clone when i purchased it. it has had mites, its had PM. i have treated it and been mite/PM free for over 3 years now. i have taken clone from a clone i'd guess about 3 dozen times of this strain. the last clones i cut of it and rooted were in this last week. roots in 10 days. plant looks as healthy as ever, and when i flower it i'd say its better than when i first got it. because i've got her dialed into my conditions, my grow style and she is not in any state of stress that she has been in in the past. sometimes plant health can drop and it has nothing to do with what generation the clone is on. get the plant back to top health and it will go back to how it was before (if youve noticed a degrade in quality).
one thing i do think is true is that a plant takes a couple of runs to show its true colors if grown from seed. but once that plant is past say 6 months to a year in age from the original seed pop, it is what it is.
one thing i do think is true is that a plant takes a couple of runs to show its true colors if grown from seed. but once that plant is past say 6 months to a year in age from the original seed pop, it is what it is.
also i have read (dont know if its true) that when you take a clone from a flowering plant, reveg it, then trigger it to flower later that the plant not only triggers into flower faster, but grows a lot more bud sites and stays shorter/bushier. in theory meaning that a plant that has been revegged at least once in its life will make for a better plant once put back in flower.
i have a blue dream and a bay 11 that are being revegged right now and are going to be my mother plant. the plant does go thru a stress/transitional state when revegging, but once its back in veg mode it shouldnt degrade anything. seems people like to overthink cannabis. its a weed, its evolved to survive and carry on. i threw a stone on top of a plant one time (a big stepping stone 50 pounds heavy) and went back 2 weeks later to find the broken plant had mended itself, and was growing like a vine out of every side of the stone. i wasnt even watering it. im pretty sure my GDP at one point was revegged. no ill effects down the road. stop believing all the stories online, clone your plant how u want to do it and it will be fine.
i have a blue dream and a bay 11 that are being revegged right now and are going to be my mother plant. the plant does go thru a stress/transitional state when revegging, but once its back in veg mode it shouldnt degrade anything. seems people like to overthink cannabis. its a weed, its evolved to survive and carry on. i threw a stone on top of a plant one time (a big stepping stone 50 pounds heavy) and went back 2 weeks later to find the broken plant had mended itself, and was growing like a vine out of every side of the stone. i wasnt even watering it. im pretty sure my GDP at one point was revegged. no ill effects down the road. stop believing all the stories online, clone your plant how u want to do it and it will be fine.