12/12+CFL+HB's=perpetual?

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bigd921

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finally got the box full 18 cups total....2 cups are my clone experiments...5 are seeds that began on 22-25 days ago...5 are seedlings that were started on 8-11 days ago and 6 new ones that are at day 0-3... so the box is full I have 3 confirmed females from the first batch still waiting on the other 2 to show, the clone experiments are female obviously (I dont think I am really going to get anything but 3 or 4 grams from them) its just popcorn bud growing out of the perlite not sure if the pics do it justice.... the other plants are to early to sex.... whenever I remove my clone experiments which will probably be soon as I dont see any reall bud development I will start 2 more seeds to take there place whenever a plant is harvested or removed for any reason I will start a seed in its place the goal is to keep 18 cups in the box at all times with the only lapse being germination time.. the goal again will be to harvest 4-5 plants per week with an average dry weight of 5-7grams per... seems very doable however if I can pull of half of that it will more than take care of my personal needs:joint:
 

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bigd921

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well took a trip to loews today, grab some superthrive since so many people swear by it I will be adding 1 drop to all my watering and feedings.. also grabed some weather strippng to finish lightproofing my box I keep it in a closet but I just want to be totally sure..... I also bought a rubbermaid container, I try to think ahead and I will be using this box as a dryer box, and also for odor control, the plan is to run my exhaust into the box on one side, the air coming out stays at about 88..... I will have trays inside for the harvested buds and the other end of the box will have another fan attached to the activated carbon bag...again all seems good in theory I will post some pcs when I have it up and running it will be a while before I can test it to dry but should work for both that and odor control all in one.....:hump:
 
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bigd921

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well the only votes I got on the plant were hermi:wall: I think its the light leaks I didnt fix, so I did what i could with duct tape I will do the rest tomorrow when i get the weather stripping so i will be germinating another seed today to replace the hermi... on a positive not my air scrubber/growbox is working at least the best I can tell with no smell or buds to dry lol, the air is flowing thu the box and charcoal filter nicely the temp inside the box is 80 degress perfect for drying nugs:hump:
 
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are you using any nutes?

do you have any suggestions for mini grows?

im going to be doing the same theing in a few months
 
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bigd921

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I can tell you what I use....I am incorporating superthrive 1 drop pergallon to everything, otherwise I give dynagrow bloom at 1/2 strength
 
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bigd921

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well 2 of the frst 5 are no more, one was a hermi and one of the ones I topped showed his balls today so he was taken down :wall:....2 more seeds started germinating today will hope to plant those in the next 48 hours... still have my 2 clone experiments...and 3 from the first 5, and 11 others 2-11days old,I am stil waiting for sex to be shown on 2 from the first batch.. I will get some batteries for my camera later so I can put up some pics of the entire setup all connected etc.... I am pleased with it so far... as far as the 12/12 from seed I do find growing the males frustrating, but it gave me an idea, not sure if it will work....

lets say I start 6 plants and veg them for 2-3 weeks just long enough to take some clones from each ad fill the box up, I then switch the box to 12/12 (permanantley) the idea being when i se my girls, I just continue to clone, from clone, from clone all in 12/12 I have read you can succesfully root and grow clones in 12/12 lighting???? does this make sense?? would it work??
 
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bigd921

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did some more reading and i cant see a reason why it wouldnt work still perpetual 12/12 but no need for a mom or clone area once I get some gerls going i can just continue cloning from each series probably just take the tops as clones that way when harvested they will each have at least 2 colas....
 
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bigd921

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quick update still some work to do on the box, didnt make it to the store today...but I will do it for sure tomorrow... also need to work on air flow for the entire unit I am getting substantial back pressure when I put the lid on the dyer/scrubber box... I think I will just add additional intakes... oh and i plucked one of my experiment plants, nothing special just a couple of popcorn buds but its what I expected from the experiment... the other seems to still be growing so I will give it another week or so...so another seed in the germination bag...
 
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bigd921

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nothing major today no seeds cracked yet, looks like those jiffy pucks are doing pretty good so far, and overall i think having a little something in there with the perlite is good, and they look perkier than there counterparts in rocwool, my seedlings always start off looking overwatered I have always suspected this was due to the rocwool and probably more so now due to the small size containers I am using so I am letting those dry out for a day or so before watering again.... also my plants are so short I think with this type of grow method, especially in the small containers I have to encourage some stretch so remove the shelf..we will see if this works, also helps keeps the temps under control, I keep playing with the lighting to ftry and find the combo that seems right too me, that ws why i love cfls i can change spectrum and wattage in an instant :hump:... currently I am running 4x26w 6500k and 2x42w2700k... so 188 watts in about 2qft 90w per sq ft from what i read is good who knows if these numbers mean anything lol and about 12k lumen my temps seem good i have a good color mix the temps are good, so i think this is it......ok i am high and rambling...if you guys have questions or comments feel free to post away:joint:
 
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bigd921

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finally got my box and all finished....i attached a few pics of the whole setup...you will see the ducting coming out of the back of the grow box that goes into the side of a rubbermaid bin ( there is a filter on the end of the tube) attached to a fan inside the rubbermaid...inside is where freshly harvested buds wull be dried, the temp is a steady 80 until lights off then down to about 75....there is a makeshift carbon filter on the other end, and a pc fan pulling all the fresh (hopefully odor free) air out...the intake end of the rubber maid has 2 passive intakes also filtered so fresh air is suck in along with the warm air from the grow box...there is a very nice cross breeze in the box and i get a good vacum seal when I close the lid:hump:... as always toughts and suggestions are welcome...
 

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nothing major 2 of the seeds craked and showed there taproot son into a bucklet and the box they go... the other one will hopefully pop tomorrow... I am going to use iffy peats for these also the seedlings in the ones so far look alot happier and healthier...a few random snapshots
 

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Update? I am trying the same thing with some chronic seed :p well i started flowering like... a week in so it was a few inches tall already. Probably like 3. I need to tie it up i think, having some teeter tottering issues and its stretched just a tad because i can't adjust the lighting as I have other bushier, taller plants needing it ;p
 
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way to many plants in that thing unless your gonna bud a bunch on 2 in plants lol, plus no room for growth in those tiny cups
 
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ghostsamurai25

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Vizion420 said:
way to many plants in that thing unless your gonna bud a bunch on 2 in plants lol, plus no room for growth in those tiny cups
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I disagree, the cups are big enough for hb sog. Did some in 8oz cups for veging and those plants surprised me on how full and big they got before transplanting. Plants were about 10in or more before transplant. After transplant I felt I could of got away with budding in 8oz cups.
 
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bigd921 said:
finally got the box full 18 cups total....2 cups are my clone experiments...5 are seeds that began on 22-25 days ago...5 are seedlings that were started on 8-11 days ago and 6 new ones that are at day 0-3... so the box is full I have 3 confirmed females from the first batch still waiting on the other 2 to show, the clone experiments are female obviously (I dont think I am really going to get anything but 3 or 4 grams from them) its just popcorn bud growing out of the perlite not sure if the pics do it justice.... the other plants are to early to sex.... whenever I remove my clone experiments which will probably be soon as I dont see any reall bud development I will start 2 more seeds to take there place whenever a plant is harvested or removed for any reason I will start a seed in its place the goal is to keep 18 cups in the box at all times with the only lapse being germination time.. the goal again will be to harvest 4-5 plants per week with an average dry weight of 5-7grams per... seems very doable however if I can pull of half of that it will more than take care of my personal needs:joint:
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Wow, looks very much like mine. You will be fine budding in those cups. I made the mistake switching mine to 32oz cups.
 
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bigd921

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Vizion420 said:
way to many plants in that thing unless your gonna bud a bunch on 2 in plants lol, plus no room for growth in those tiny cups
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neither of those statements are true.. you can grow a foot tall plant in cups this size, and there is a guy in icmag that has the same dimensions and dose 30+ plants in it... pull up a chair and let me dispell those misconceptions for you:joint:
 
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bigd921

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of the first 5 seeds I started (the week of 6-23), thats how I am keeping track..I have 3 remaining, 2 females confirmed and 1 unknown, I dont think its coincidence that the one I topped is taking longer to show sex...as I already reported one of the original 5 was a hermi and one was a male..... I plucked 2 seedlings today one from the week on 7-7 and another from 7-14, one just stoped growing, the other only sprouted the coleydon leaves nothing else:wall: not sure what would have cuased either situation its the first time I have seen it, new seeds will be started to fill in the spots....I think I am going to go with the peat pelletsd no more rocwool the seedlings in the pellets look so much healthier than the ones in the rocwool, they are also larger and growing faster....I am experimenting with how to use the pellets I have some with the net on just like the instructions some with the net off and some I took the net off and smashed them up and made a layer about 1.5 inches deep in the cup... we will see what works best.... anyway a few pics of the 3 remaining from the original 5
 

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