12/12+CFL+HB's=perpetual?
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{Kottonmouth.King}
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Very nice!!! I love the idea of little mini sog grows on a perpetual system. I have a question though: You say you have quite a vaccum on that drying box, is there a lot of air moving through it? And will all that fast paced air dry the buds out too fast? I really like the idea of connecting the exhaust to a dryer box so the air is recirculated for multi purpose. You have a great grow going and cant wait to see the end results of those little 5g buds on a stem. It is really a good idea for the medicinal/casual smoker.
Keep the Grow Alive
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thanks for the support, the best I can tell there is a nice amount of air moving thru it.... I dont think too much tho, my idea is based loosely on the design in the diy section, I have only put one small nug in there to dry, it took about 24 hours to dry (stem bendable) thats how I like them , so my guess is 48-72 hours for my 5g buds....
I get alot of views to my journal thanks for looking guys, but I have some questions PLEASE give me your thoughts on these ideas and questions
1. Idea, continuing with the one box 12/12 idea, I am considering cloning via topping my females whenever they show (if I have a spot available)..I know I can clone in 12/12 and I know I can take a clone from a flowering plant sound good???
2. Question, how are feminized seeds made???
3. Question I want to order seeds ONCE, what is the best way to make more seeds from that strain (considering Nirvana early special), keeping in mind I have only one area to grow in?
rep for anyone that is willing to help
thanks guys
1. Idea, continuing with the one box 12/12 idea, I am considering cloning via topping my females whenever they show (if I have a spot available)..I know I can clone in 12/12 and I know I can take a clone from a flowering plant sound good???
2. Question, how are feminized seeds made???
3. Question I want to order seeds ONCE, what is the best way to make more seeds from that strain (considering Nirvana early special), keeping in mind I have only one area to grow in?
rep for anyone that is willing to help
thanks guys
Oh crap almost forgot the beans I just poped in are not just my normal bag seed, a friend of a friend that is related to someones sister in the windy city lol....anyway I got 10 seeds its called "Westside" allegedley some guy on the westside invented it etc etc never know if any of this shit is true lol but I have smoked it and damn!!!!! so I have 3 of those in now and I may go ahead and set up another box and do some cloning with these havent decided yet......
so I have 3 of those in now and I may go ahead and set up another box and do some cloning with these havent decided yet......well cut my last clone experiment bud today, I saw a few amber trichs and thats what I was waiting for the other one was mostly cloudy, the high was good, now I can compare after this little nugget dries.... what I learned from this experiment is that you can clone a plant after harvesting, I simply took 2 bottom braches after i had harvested the plant put them in rocwool and a hb, put them in the flower room, and I got a very small bud from each... I beleive had I vegged them for a week or 2 I could have gotten something worthwhile from them, but each was enough to pack a bowl so that is my reward for learning something
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DarkStar9
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It is true you can grow plats in such small containers HB style, I vegged some clones in 24oz cups then cut the bottons off when I transplanted them to 18gl rubbermaids filled almost half way with perlite but when I harvested I noticed the roots had not grown that much more wich made me wonder about going all the way in the 24oz cups.....
shrubsmokes
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I get alot of views to my journal thanks for looking guys, but I have some questions PLEASE give me your thoughts on these ideas and questions
1. Idea, continuing with the one box 12/12 idea, I am considering cloning via topping my females whenever they show (if I have a spot available)..I know I can clone in 12/12 and I know I can take a clone from a flowering plant sound good???
2. Question, how are feminized seeds made???
3. Question I want to order seeds ONCE, what is the best way to make more seeds from that strain (considering Nirvana early special), keeping in mind I have only one area to grow in?
rep for anyone that is willing to help
thanks guys
1. yes but i think topping/cloning durring flower is a little more stressful then doing it durring veg. so your taking away bud making energy. but many have done it and it will work fine, just with a little less product.
2. Creating Feminized Seeds - Grasscity.com Forums
3. seeing as you only have 1 area your options are limited. grow in that space and leave any males in there. i think its worth it to do a whole grow just for seeds because they cost so much. most people will grow a few and take out the males b4 they drop pollin. then they collect that pollin and use brushes to add it to the bottom half of 1 or more female plants so they still get some good smoke from the tops. if i was you id make a little temp box just for a male to seporate it maybe with 1 cfl just enough to keep him alive to collect pollin. its hard not to contaminate.
btw the tiny hempy buckets = way cool.
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1. yes but i think topping/cloning durring flower is a little more stressful then doing it durring veg. so your taking away bud making energy. but many have done it and it will work fine, just with a little less product.
2. Creating Feminized Seeds - Grasscity.com Forums
3. seeing as you only have 1 area your options are limited. grow in that space and leave any males in there. i think its worth it to do a whole grow just for seeds because they cost so much. most people will grow a few and take out the males b4 they drop pollin. then they collect that pollin and use brushes to add it to the bottom half of 1 or more female plants so they still get some good smoke from the tops. if i was you id make a little temp box just for a male to seporate it maybe with 1 cfl just enough to keep him alive to collect pollin. its hard not to contaminate.
btw the tiny hempy buckets = way cool.
thanks a bunch + rep for you, wish I had seen that grasscity discussin before I killed my hermi....
...but now I know, the dryer box dried my little bud very nicely, its not enough to bother curing but it was great for a wake and bake......
that is very true, I think these 16 oz cups are going to work perfect, i think even if I was going from clone I would start with very small clones and flower them immediatley and it would work, my one adjustment is that using rocwool with these small containers is a NO NO, they retain fair to much water... these damn jiffy pellets are woking great, the final step in making my entire grow 100% walmart will be using a nute formula that I am sure will work (thanks again drbud), its a combination of the 5-1-1 emulsions and the schultz all pupose 10-15-10 plus micro.... I have tried each of them individually with bad results but the combination from what I have seen works amazing even in hemp buckets...so I am going to start that as a test on a couple of plants if it works this entire grow op can be had at your local walmart all you would need to do is add seeds
that is exactly my reason for doing this..... and the prices you have to pay for some quality smoke is crazy.....this is a risk but it is a risk that I control not some dealer.....
bonz
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that guy on grass city has not done his homework. hermies dont produce feminized seeds. you have a most likely chance of getting hermie seeds. but in reality they can be anything, that is not a stable way to make new plants. i have tried and wasn`t to succsesfull.
the reason the femenized seeds cost so much is all the work that went into stabilizing the strain. look up hybrids or f1 seeds and see the amount of work, it could take a year to produce good seeds
the reason the femenized seeds cost so much is all the work that went into stabilizing the strain. look up hybrids or f1 seeds and see the amount of work, it could take a year to produce good seeds
I am not sure yet, that is not the first time I have read that fem seeds are basiclly just hermi seeds.... I will run my own test when I can and figure it out...and dude just because someone charges alot for a product doesnt mean it took alot of work to produce it
... I mean really this shit is done by stoners we are lazy by nature lol thanks for the input tho
bonz
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you saying that a year to stabilize a strain so we get all females is not worth more? i would like to see any stoner that hasn`t tried this to do it succsesfuly and make a name for themselves as a reputable breeder. i work with some of these guys and am learning the process right now and believe me it`s not easy.
i am so confident that it wont work if you do this and can prove to me that you got all female seeds i would buy you any choice of an f1 seed just to show you the difference. i`m not slaming anyone i am just speaking from experience through my learning from these people
i am so confident that it wont work if you do this and can prove to me that you got all female seeds i would buy you any choice of an f1 seed just to show you the difference. i`m not slaming anyone i am just speaking from experience through my learning from these people
dude I am not saying you are wrong honestly I dont really care...but I am going to give it shot because I can, and it would stand to reason that those that profit from it would make it appear more complicated than it is..further not even the breeders you refer too can guarantee ALL female seeds the seeds are only one part of the process there are GROWERS that clame 80% female ratio regardless of seeds simply by controlling athmosphere...everyone has a theory friend
well I think I see pistils on the final one from the frist batch about 80% sure we will see over the next day...made a few minor adjustments to the box, walking around loews I saw these dryer filter covers for 1.50 and man those little carbon filter packs I have fit in them perfect really cleaned up my operation and seems to be alot more functional... anyway a few pics of the newest lady and a little bud porn from one of her sisters, in case anyone is keeping track took between 21-30 days for sex to show, 5 seeds 12/12 from the start 3 females 1 male 1 hermie (my fault), so I am happy with the ratio so far would have been 4 for 5 had I fixed the damn light leaks 
but we will see how things progress, I am already getting it much more dialed in than I had at the start......
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