LED Comparisons?

[SupraSPL]

More than happy to help in any way DS So I assume you are putting screws through a layer of sheetrock into the joists? You might be able to attach a few 2X3s very securely into the joists with long deck screws (Walmart has them) and then you can put a bunch of screw hooks (also at Walmart) into the 2X3 so you can move the lights very easily and cheaply.and without making too many holes in the sheetrock. Also it comes down very quickly in the event you need to tear down.

 

[ozdude]

WHY?

unfortunately there are some very draconian laws where i live that could see every asset seized for even minor illegal activity...
this grow supplies 4 of us and this falls under gang/organised crime....
when we break it up each of us gets 1 onyx and we will set up our own individual grows to avoid this bullshit...

 

[DANKSWAG]

unfortunately there are some very draconian laws where i live that could see every asset seized for even minor illegal activity...
this grow supplies 4 of us and this falls under gang/organised crime....
when we break it up each of us gets 1 onyx and we will set up our own individual grows to avoid this bullshit...

Ozdude,

Sorry to hear that. Curious though to the number of plants under your 4 onyx in the 6x6, looks like you are close to harvest? How would you compare them to the HID lamps you used before?

DankSwag

 

[ozdude]

Ozdude,

Sorry to hear that. Curious though to the number of plants under your 4 onyx in the 6x6, looks like you are close to harvest? How would you compare them to the HID lamps you used before?

DankSwag

there are 5 plants atm...i was planning on 9 but they just got too big too quickly.

harvest should be now but due to timer failure flowering was late and the mazari even tried to reveg...regardless if they are ready or not they will have to come out soon...

compared to the hps the leds are doing great, there is more resin, tight internodes and much better temp control...i wont be going back anytime soon i can tell you...led fanboy....

 

[captainmorgan]

there are 5 plants atm...i was planning on 9 but they just got too big too quickly.

harvest should be now but due to timer failure flowering was late and the mazari even tried to reveg...regardless if they are ready or not they will have to come out soon...

compared to the hps the leds are doing great, there is more resin, tight internodes and much better temp control...i wont be going back anytime soon i can tell you...led fanboy....

Good to hear your happy with the LED's and sorry to hear about your situation. I'm in the USA and in a legal medical marijuana state and have my medical card but I'm still paranoid about the law here. I'm in a conservative republican county that will try to lock you up,card or no card.

 

[ozdude]

Good to hear your happy with the LED's and sorry to hear about your situation. I'm in the USA and in a legal medical marijuana state and have my medical card but I'm still paranoid about the law here. I'm in a conservative republican county that will try to lock you up,card or no card.

i haven't got around to thanking you for your recommendation captain...so THANKS...

medical MJ...is still a pipe dream down here...

 

[makomachine]

CO is a new world for this cannabis growing novice. Times are a changing, slowly but surely!

 

[DANKSWAG]

More than happy to help in any way DS So I assume you are putting screws through a layer of sheetrock into the joists? You might be able to attach a few 2X3s very securely into the joists with long deck screws (Walmart has them) and then you can put a bunch of screw hooks (also at Walmart) into the 2X3 so you can move the lights very easily and cheaply.and without making too many holes in the sheetrock. Also it comes down very quickly in the event you need to tear down.

I think I have a idea on how I want to do this. Notice that the leader wires from which the Onyx Bloom panels hang are threaded into a end cap with screw threads 1/4 inch in diameter.

These screw into a receiver cap that is mounted with a screw and anchor into the ceiling.
So what I need to do is map out all possible plant container foot prints within the space, that is utilizing the two sections of 4x4 within a 10x5 space. That is a 4 plant configuration and 6 plant and obtain addition receiver caps with screw and anchor, in fact no reason could get additional screw and anchors from hardware store to install additional receiver caps into the ceiling.

This will allow for simple disconnect and easy move to another position in room without the fuss of putting up more board across the ceiling and losing height for plants growth.

I'm going to contact Rapid LED and see what they want for 4 more sets of receiver caps that should allow me to move lights and add them as well when finances permit.

So now I have backed off my room a little bit till the rest of the gear arrives next week to complete this build. I have ordered rubber mats that will piece together covering 48 of my 50 sqft space.
This should protect the panda film on the floor from getting destroyed.

For now I am going to measure out possible light to plant foot print combinations I will be working with so I can mark out where to install all the receiver caps for hanging these lights from.

DankSwag

 

[DANKSWAG]

I've got it figured out for now. Utilizing a 4x4 foot print in a 5x5 space I will keep 6 ladies under two lights in each 4x4 space. Anywise got the numbers figured out, got the panda film today. First thing in morning film is going to get tacked up and boarded with 1x2 then the divider wall and equipment. Hopefully by end of weekend bloom room complete then I can work on finishing remodel of veg space.

I'm very excited still a lot of work ahead of me.

DankSwag

 

[DANKSWAG]

Okay what you all have been waiting for, well sort of... I am telling you measuring, cutting, installing, taping, drilling is time consuming not to mention material runs to town for additional hose, zip ties, hvac tape, tubing etc... wow takes up a lot of time. Hopefully I've gotten somewhere, well I have not completed in that I have the floor to do yet, however from the ceiling down inside I got one 4x4 area with two lights hung and a ecoplus oscillating fan hanging of the far wall

The gals in here are BC and a little distress (fighting of fungi attack) well be soon brewing some compost tea, right now they've also been under an under powered light for where they normally would be this cycle of life. I will also be top dressing with super soil and placing these gals into PHOGS, that is my passive hydroponic organic grow system. I've been keeping fungus at bay with neem protek mix foiliar spray. I'm going to veg them a little till they rebound healthy before switching lights over.

Tomorrow I will complete the installation of the other lights well at least there suspension system for one light is overheating and shutting of and it has to be sent back for replacement. Awaiting to hear from Rapid on that one.

In the process of sealing this up from the ground up I will need to put in a door two, which I've designed a break away door between the 2 foot area in the middle of the walled frame. It will be two feet wide obliviously and 5 and half feet it will detach like a rectangular hatch from one foot off the floor to 6 and half feet up. I will seal the edges and secure this pop off frame / hatch with velcro another item I need to as well.

Here are a few pics to fill in the blanks..
Oh yeah silver hvac tap in random spots on panda film is where lumber ripped up against, since pieces would slip and fall as I tried to instal alone.
This is one half view, complete pics when finished other side and the floor.



MMM, on the way to SWAGADELLIC...

DankSwaging it baby...

 

[Chronikool]

Ahhhh yes....that nice clean setup....one day i'll have another one...

Nice build bruv...

 

[DANKSWAG]

It's been a while folks and hopefully this post will be informative...

So long story short I've only used 2 of my 4 Onyx lights due to thermal issues, which have nothing to do with my ambient temperatures which averaged typically 88 to 89 with lights on and air circulated, lights off with minimal air flow temps average 78 to 80. I lost one led panel early was able to use on of the two I had yet to hang over the other 4x4 footprint in the other half of the flowering room.

Therefore I did not install the additional lights but kept as spares as I was nervous I could possible loose another during flower. Which happened recently early last week just after completing 7 weeks. Unlike the first time this happened Rapid LED did not have a replacement to send me right away. 20 days out I am told before I can get a replacement unit.

These panels are supposed to be rated at 150 F before they are supposed to shutdown so I am not sure what the deal is.
I will know soon how will they performed for I should be harvesting some time this week.

So the pictures you are about to see are the girls from earlier all grown up. I definitely will be doing a scrog next go around to maximize canopy exposed to lighting. After a scrog grow I will know if I want to add another light for a total of 3 at 750 watts over a 4x4 scrog canopy.

 

[captainmorgan]

So the thermal protection on the panel was shutting them down?

I think dbkick had a issue like this on one of his panels when he first got it but it resolved it self on it's own without replacement.

 

[DANKSWAG]

So the thermal protection on the panel was shutting them down?

I think dbkick had a issue like this on one of his panels when he first got it but it resolved it self on it's own without replacement.

Yeah two of them so far...

I did not have the fan/thermal heat sink cover removed as suggested. I have since removed them from the remaining units.

DankSwag

 

[PSUAGRO.]

Yeah two of them so far...

I did not have the fan/thermal heat sink cover removed as suggested. I have since removed them from the remaining units.

DankSwag

Unacceptable IMO..............they really need to lower the wattage draw for the quick fix until a redesign.

 

[DANKSWAG]

Unacceptable IMO..............they really need to lower the wattage draw for the quick fix until a redesign.

I am told they can disable it completely so it does not cause it to shut down.
I am not even getting close to the temperature ceiling and yet I have this issue.


Any feedback on what the 500 total watt draw produced?

DankSwag

 

[SupraSPL]

Hey DS sorry to hear of the technical issues with the Onyx. So if you plug one in it works fine but as it warms up it shuts down?

That said, those nugs look like they are decent size, did you get a dry weight? I try not to let canopy temp get above 80F (for nug quality) if I can help it by increasing airflow through the carbon filter (I added a second one to accomplish that) and I used to run the AC to knock the temp and humidity down. I have also noticed what a huge difference air circulation in the tent does for canopy temps. I use a ceiling fan during lights on. Once I forgot to plug in back in and canopy temps skyrocketed. Anyway, good luck and please keep us updated

 

[DANKSWAG]

Hey DS sorry to hear of the technical issues with the Onyx. So if you plug one in it works fine but as it warms up it shuts down?

That said, those nugs look like they are decent size, did you get a dry weight? I try not to let canopy temp get above 80F (for nug quality) if I can help it by increasing airflow through the carbon filter (I added a second one to accomplish that) and I used to run the AC to knock the temp and humidity down. I have also noticed what a huge difference air circulation in the tent does for canopy temps. I use a ceiling fan during lights on. Once I forgot to plug in back in and canopy temps skyrocketed. Anyway, good luck and please keep us updated

Supra,

Thanks for the information. Currently my room shares a 15 amp circuit with my master bedroom. When I try to run both humidifier and air conditioner it trips the breaker. My portable air conditioner is on the fritz anywise and needs serviced.
So I am running the humidifier at 40% but that increases the temp somewhat so I am doing the best I can to circulate in fresh cooler air.

What I need is an electrician recommendation for my new grow room requires some electrical work if I am to control the environment so my temps don't get to low 90's. Looking for someone that works in the Snohomish County area, particularly the Sky Valley area.

I should have dry weight by Monday since I harvested yesterday. I will be curious to see if it tops my yields I was getting with the Dorm Grow lights.

DankSwag

 

[DANKSWAG]

Well I am not sure I want to accept these results as what may be possible with these lights (.25 GPW) as they dried weight has come in at 32 grams per plant x 4...total 128 grams. I know I have done better with less wattage from the Dorm Grow lights, but then again I kept a perfect environment in that tent. I also battled some high temps and humidity as my environmental controls need dialed in next run this should be improved going forward.

I did not scrog but topped into multiple main colas with only 500watts covering 4 square feet average distance of LED from canopy top about 22 inches.


I am working on a last minute scrog same wattage using 2x3 rectangular weave 16g wth green plastic coating.
I didn't really have to suspend it from ceiling rafters but I did, I rested on top of otherwise would be same mainline cola approach and took those stems and wove them into the mesh.

The following picture is prior to laying mesh over and weaving into the fabric.



DankSwag

 

[DANKSWAG]

I should have new pictures tomorrow... anyone else using these onyx bloom lights so I can compare notes results ect...


Here is a picture of last week again only two onyx bloom lights covering a 4X4 mesh.