majority of employers favor raising minimum wage

[londonfog]

I'm sure your laundromat would be doing real well if your staff prices increased 100% in two years with no appreciable growth in business, right?

The only reasons they were in Samoa was (at the time) it's low wages and it's still an American territory, why hire less educated people when for the same price you can situate yourself in the mainland US with it's highly educated workforce?

I'm not saying businesses should scalp their employees, as I've said before in any job Ive worked I've valued my truly good employees because they're hard to come across and even more difficult to replace.

The majority are replaceable tards tho, should they be paid as much as the people who throw themselves 110% at their job, use initiative and common sense?

My laundromats do quite well whilst paying well above the minimum wage. Question ??? What do you think the minimum wage should be ?

 

[NoDrama]

Doesn't matter what the min wage is. People can just not work, have children and get on taxpayer assistance. Free food, clothes, medical care, child care, housing....
Why would they get a job?

 

[NoDrama]

My laundromats do quite well whilst paying well above the minimum wage.

You mean as an employer you can choose to pay your employees more than Min wage? Are you sure their isn't a law against that?

 

[londonfog]

Doesn't matter what the min wage is. People can just not work, have children and get on taxpayer assistance. Free food, clothes, medical care, child care, housing....
Why would they get a job?

I doubt that welfare is such an easy life

 

[londonfog]

You mean as an employer you can choose to pay your employees more than Min wage? Are you sure their isn't a law against that?

I'm still trying to understand how people survived off less the 5 an hour. Damn near slavery

 

[NoDrama]

I'm still trying to understand how people survived off less the 5 an hour. Damn near slavery

Yeah, 100 years ago the average wage was $.10 an hour

Imagine how hard it was to buy an iPhone then? I mean what with the prices of Hamburger costing $4 a pound and all....

Oh wait....100 years ago things cost less.

 

[londonfog]

Yeah, 100 years ago the average wage was $.10 an hour

Imagine how hard it was to buy an iPhone then? I mean what with the prices of Hamburger costing $4 a pound and all....

Oh wait....100 years ago things cost less.

so you agree with things now costing more we need to increase the minimum wage

 

[NoDrama]

so you agree with things now costing more we need to increase the minimum wage

Why do things cost more? Maybe we should curtail that inflation thing, then we don't have to raise the min wage.

 

[Harrekin]

Why do things cost more? Maybe we should curtail that inflation thing, then we don't have to raise the min wage.

All the Central Banks are claiming inflation is a goal now, maybe the lefties should take a look at them instead of fucking business owners with their demands of extortionate increases to the minimum wage.

Lefties don't even realise they're unintentionally attacking the middle class with these proposals (who ironically are the class who contribute the most towards their lefty programmes).

 

[NoDrama]

All the Central Banks are claiming inflation is a goal now, maybe the lefties should take a look at them instead of fucking business owners with their demands of extortionate increases to the minimum wage.

Lefties don't even realise they're unintentionally attacking the middle class with these proposals (who ironically are the class who contribute the most towards their lefty programmes).

Central Bankers believe that a finite system can provide infinite growth. A lesson they seem incapable of learning. Alas bankers cannot force people to take on debt, they need government help to do that.

 

[UncleBuck]

The closure of the Chicken of the Sea cannery in American Samoa shows us that higher minimum wages cause low-skill workers to lose jobs.

you are beyond retarded.

number one, that is not the claim you were even trying to prove. you were trying to prove that minimum wage caused businesses to fail, to go under.

all you showed was that chicken of the sea moved jobs from one minimum wage location to another.

spell it with me: R-E-T-A-R-D-E-D

that is what you are.

 

[UncleBuck]

now the retards who don't have a leg to stand on are deflecting the conversation to welfare and inflation.

good job, retards.

if you can't have a discussion about the minimum wage, as you have not a single shred of empirical evidence on your side and all your lies have been debunked, move the conversation to your standard, go-to, right wing talking points: the jewish federal reserve conspiracy (INFLATIONZZZZ!!!!) and welfare (brown people!).

 

[Harrekin]

now the retards who don't have a leg to stand on are deflecting the conversation to welfare and inflation.

good job, retards.

if you can't have a discussion about the minimum wage, as you have not a single shred of empirical evidence on your side and all your lies have been debunked, move the conversation to your standard, go-to, right wing talking points: the jewish federal reserve conspiracy (INFLATIONZZZZ!!!!) and welfare (brown people!).

The place was actually running well to you awoke from your drunken stupor, good debate had by all.

Damn shame you woke up at all really...

 

[UncleBuck]

The place was actually running well to you awoke from your drunken stupor, good debate had by all.

Damn shame you woke up at all really...

deflecting to unrelated topics is not good debate, it is you running away from the issue at hand like a little pussy.

 

[Harrekin]

deflecting to unrelated topics is not good debate, it is you running away from the issue at hand like a little pussy.

You should just Second Amendment yourself, tonight.

Please?

 

[Padawanbater2]

You also have to realistically recognise that the minimum wage is not supposed to be a livable wage for adults with or without dependents.

The jobs that pay minimum wage are necessary, everybody agrees, so instead of having these people use government assistance, those jobs should provide a living wage.

All you have to say about that is "no they shouldn't", and can't answer why they shouldn't. You say it'll increase unemployment, studies show that to be false.

So why shouldn't somebody working a minimum wage job 40 hours a week be paid a living wage?

 

[UncleBuck]

The jobs that pay minimum wage are necessary, everybody agrees, so instead of having these people use government assistance, those jobs should provide a living wage.

All you have to say about that is "no they shouldn't", and can't answer why they shouldn't. You say it'll increase unemployment, studies show that to be false.

So why shouldn't somebody working a minimum wage job 40 hours a week be paid a living wage?

because inflation! and welfare!

 

[Harrekin]

The jobs that pay minimum wage are necessary, everybody agrees, so instead of having these people use government assistance, those jobs should provide a living wage.

All you have to say about that is "no they shouldn't", and can't answer why they shouldn't. You say it'll increase unemployment, studies show that to be false.

So why shouldn't somebody working a minimum wage job 40 hours a week be paid a living wage?

If the person can't live off that, then they need to get two jobs.

Or instead of both of that you could provide Govt supported retraining for people who are unemployed/under employed, because it's a demonstrable fact that educated people pay multiples more in taxes over their working life than the cost of their initial education.

Seriously Padawan, I don't disagree with the minimum wage in principle, but it just doesn't help those it's supposed to help in reality.

 

[UncleBuck]

If the person can't live off that, then they need to get two jobs.

Or instead of both of that you could provide Govt supported retraining for people who are unemployed/under employed, because it's a demonstrable fact that educated people pay multiples more in taxes over their working life than the cost of their initial education.

Seriously Padawan, I don't disagree with the minimum wage in principle, but it just doesn't help those it's supposed to help in reality.

so a livable wage doesn't help people, but working two or three jobs at shit wages does?

i'm not retarded, so i don't see the logic in that.

of course, your solution is the same as retard scott walker, who thinks training programs will bootstrap everyone into success. of course, then we will have no one to work the minimum wage jobs, so it isn't really a solution so much as it is a retarded fantasy talking point with no basis in reality whatsoever.

 

[Harrekin]

so a livable wage doesn't help people, but working two or three jobs at shit wages does?

i'm not retarded, so i don't see the logic in that.

of course, your solution is the same as retard scott walker, who thinks training programs will bootstrap everyone into success. of course, then we will have no one to work the minimum wage jobs, so it isn't really a solution so much as it is a retarded fantasy talking point with no basis in reality whatsoever.

The same people will work the minimum wage jobs as were always supposed to.

Young people and students.

You want a McLivable Wage with that?

You're shit out of luck, better keep going to college.