For all of you stooges terrified of ebola...

[Canna Sylvan]

yes. you implied that the pharmaceutical industry is using their vast wealth to buy politicians, to keep their profits obscenely high, to the detriment of the peoples.

how much should they be ALLOWED to make?

it's not a vague question, your allusions hints and allegations were vague, my statements are NOT.

when you finally declare how much they should be allowed to make selling their products, then you will have a position to defend. until then you are just farting in the bathtub.

Don't you know Rapewan is a cryptomarxist? He likes to deny it with all his off grid dreams. The marxist equivalent of the American Dream. Then he complains about how this and that is stealing his dream from becoming reality.

He talks a good game how he's not a marxist, yet talks about how it's a politicians duty, but never about his own duties.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

my questions were not dismissive, your refusal to answer them IS.

get a dictionary you fool

I think his minimum wage increase threads say otherwise. He once showed how Walmart employees should be making something like $50k a year to greet you at the door. His logic was the wage disparity of CEO to toilet scrubber is too much.

If that's not marxist. Definitely not capitalist.

I then troll him making up my own shit, qnd he has the nerve to come back with I don't know definitions.

He has limits in pay. Why he doesn't want to state them is beyond me.

 

[Padawanbater2]

my questions were not dismissive, your refusal to answer them IS.

get a dictionary you fool

Your questions, your attitude, and your approach are all completely dismissive. It's fine with me if you don't take anyone but yourself seriously, I don't take you seriously.

 

[Glaucoma]

Your questions, your attitude, and your approach are all completely dismissive. It's fine with me if you don't take anyone but yourself seriously, I don't take you seriously.

You've gotten yourself too deep into this to suddenly play dumb. It's not fooling anybody.

 

[UncleBuck]

take a stand or sit back down junior.

i love it when racist old men-children get all riled.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Study: Fear of Ebola Highest Among People Who Did Not Pay Attention During Math and Science Classes

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/boro...1&spJobID=542865219&spReportId=NTQyODY1MjE5S0

LULZ

 

[Dr Kynes]

You've gotten yourself too deep into this to suddenly play dumb. It's not fooling anybody.

i dont think he is "playing" dumb, i think he ran out of pre-written talking points

 

[Dr Kynes]

Study: Fear of Ebola Highest Among People Who Did Not Pay Attention During Math and Science Classes

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/boro...1&spJobID=542865219&spReportId=NTQyODY1MjE5S0

LULZ

got any "citations" from the onion or mad magazine you wanna add to that brilliant thesis?

 

[Glaucoma]

i dont think he is "playing" dumb, i think he ran out of pre-written talking points

Indeed.

For one, I'd like to know what happens to all of the people who learned a trade and/or went to school for a job that pays 19 bucks an hour. Suddenly their labor is devalued?

If everyone gets a raise, the market feels the extra cash and starts charging more. Who wouldn't? If everyone can suddenly afford to pay 2x as much.. guess how much I'm gonna raise my prices?

 

[Dr Kynes]

Don't you know Rapewan is a cryptomarxist? He likes to deny it with all his off grid dreams. The marxist equivalent of the American Dream. Then he complains about how this and that is stealing his dream from becoming reality.

He talks a good game how he's not a marxist, yet talks about how it's a politicians duty, but never about his own duties.

if i were to reach for any word to describe rapesey's talking game "Good" would be at the bottom of my list.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Indeed.

For one, I'd like to know what happens to all of the people who learned a trade and/or went to school for a job that pays 19 bucks an hour. Suddenly their labor is devalued?

If everyone gets a raise, the market feels the extra cash and starts charging more. Who wouldn't? If everyone can suddenly afford to pay 2x as much.. guess how much I'm gonna raise my prices?

nuhh uhh, cuz "aggregate demand"...

aggregate demand is the leftist Imaginary Hand Of The Market solution

 

[UncleBuck]

Indeed.

For one, I'd like to know what happens to all of the people who learned a trade and/or went to school for a job that pays 19 bucks an hour. Suddenly their labor is devalued?

they have more resources, they can just bootstrap themselves up.

duh.

 

[schuylaar]

i remember being in a doctors office waiting room in 1983, reading about something called HIV which caused this horror named AIDS..certainly no one had to worry about if you weren't gay..amiright?

 

[Harrekin]

Padawan, I'd be genuinely interested in what you think the ROI should be capped at on a pharmaceutical drug.

You say they shouldn't be allowed bankrupt their customers, is this not a product of the captive insurance market that says a cancer treatment could cost a million dollars or because that's how much it actually costs?

Businesses are there to make money, if not theyd be a charity or a NFP.

So for example, what would you limit the ROI of a chemotherapy drug at?

 

[NLXSK1]

Padawan, I'd be genuinely interested in what you think the ROI should be capped at on a pharmaceutical drug.

You say they shouldn't be allowed bankrupt their customers, is this not a product of the captive insurance market that says a cancer treatment could cost a million dollars or because that's how much it actually costs?

Businesses are there to make money, if not theyd be a charity or a NFP.

So for example, what would you limit the ROI of a chemotherapy drug at?

You are going to need to explain ROI to him....

 

[Padawanbater2]

Padawan, I'd be genuinely interested in what you think the ROI should be capped at on a pharmaceutical drug.

You say they shouldn't be allowed bankrupt their customers, is this not a product of the captive insurance market that says a cancer treatment could cost a million dollars or because that's how much it actually costs?

Businesses are there to make money, if not theyd be a charity or a NFP.

So for example, what would you limit the ROI of a chemotherapy drug at?

I don't know what it should be

But it should be illegal to market drugs directly to citizens instead of doctors & it should be illegal to incentivize doctors pushing drugs onto patients that might not need them

And following the same theme of getting money out of politics, it should be illegal for the pharmaceutical industry to spend money influencing politics.

Keep in mind, more people die each year from Rx drugs than all illegal drugs combined, our private prisons are filled with over 85% of inmates there on direct or indirect drug charges, and the prison industrial complex has contracts with the US government guaranteeing 95%-99% incarceration rates further influencing police to lock people up..

These industries (pharmaceuticals & private prisons) are intimately connected in a way that is detrimental to every American citizen, and indeed, every world citizen because of the global aid clauses inherent in the drug war legislation. Countries won't get aid if they don't accept our bullshit drug policy.

These are things that shouldn't be looked at through a partisan lense, every American citizen should be against private prisons and exorbitant amounts of money influencing politics regardless of their party affiliation.

 

[Harrekin]

I don't know what it should be

But it should be illegal to market drugs directly to citizens instead of doctors & it should be illegal to incentivize doctors pushing drugs onto patients that might not need them

And following the same theme of getting money out of politics, it should be illegal for the pharmaceutical industry to spend money influencing politics.

Keep in mind, more people die each year from Rx drugs than all illegal drugs combined, our private prisons are filled with over 85% of inmates there on direct or indirect drug charges, and the prison industrial complex has contracts with the US government guaranteeing 95%-99% incarceration rates further influencing police to lock people up..

These industries (pharmaceuticals & private prisons) are intimately connected in a way that is detrimental to every American citizen, and indeed, every world citizen because of the global aid clauses inherent in the drug war legislation. Countries won't get aid if they don't accept our bullshit drug policy.

These are things that shouldn't be looked at through a partisan lense, every American citizen should be against private prisons and exorbitant amounts of money influencing politics regardless of their party affiliation.

And yet these same pharmaceutical giants can sell the same medication to our healthcare system for 100x less than it costs the patient in the US system.

The continuation of the private insurance industry is a joke, Obamacare simply compounds the problem when a simple law covering the few good parts of Obamacare could've been drafted as a more palatable and less contentious middle ground.

The whole system is the reason pharmaceutical drugs are so expensive, if a company can charge $100,000 for a course of chemo they will.

It costs the taxpayer approximately €12,000 to treat a cancer patient from start to finish here, that's including hospital stays, all the drugs, etc.

Your pushing the problem onto Pfizer et al when they simply work the system as it stands.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Your pushing the problem onto Pfizer et al when they simply work the system as it stands.

I've been advocating overhauling the system the entire time

 

[Harrekin]

I've been advocating overhauling the system the entire time

Yet you advocate for Obamacare.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Yet you advocate for Obamacare.

Not really

I support the idea of universal healthcare because I believe it's another step in the right direction and most western nations have successfully implemented it. Obamacare is far too conservative imo