Man-made global warming is a lie and not backed up by science, claims leading meteorologist.

[abandonconflict]

"square kilometers" in other words not volume

"density" again, not volume

 

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[abandonconflict]

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/thick-melt.html

A new NASA study revealed that the oldest and thickest Arctic sea ice is disappearing at a faster rate than the younger and thinner ice at the edges of the Arctic Ocean’s floating ice cap.

The thicker ice, known as multi-year ice, survives through the cyclical summer melt season, when young ice that has formed over winter just as quickly melts again. The rapid disappearance of older ice makes Arctic sea ice even more vulnerable to further decline in the summer, said Joey Comiso, senior scientist at NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md., and author of the study, which was recently published in Journal of Climate.

The new research takes a closer look at how multi-year ice, ice that has made it through at least two summers, has diminished with each passing winter over the last three decades. Multi-year ice "extent" – which includes all areas of the Arctic Ocean where multi-year ice covers at least 15 percent of the ocean surface – is diminishing at a rate of -15.1 percent per decade, the study found.

 

[NoDrama]

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/thick-melt.html

Does having less ice up there mean we are all doomed, or does it just mean more chances for arctic sea cruises from Holiday?

I always figured Russia and Canada could be the bread baskets of the world if only the climate warmed up a bit.

Opportunity?

Seems like the liberals want to be so conservative about this issue, like the climate changing is a bad thing or something. Why so afraid of some progress?

 

[jahbrudda]

First we are told we are going into an ice age, the science doesn't support that theory so they switch to global warming. Again the science doesn't support the warming so the name goes to climate change.
For years scientists have been telling us that the earths temperature will rise to alarming levels.
Polar bears will become extinct because of disapearing ice, the oceans will rise up to 20' and may get so hot that they could boil.

The hard facts: The earths temperature hasn't risen in 18 yrs, the polar bear population is thriving, the oceans are not significantly rising and sure as hell aren't close to boiling, in fact, they are cooling in the Pacific.

And the biggest fallacy that loons can't get through their partisan brains is that this is all about control and money, even if it was remotely true, do they honestly believe the US government can change the climate by legislation? lol

 

[NoDrama]

lots of plants and animals have become extinct, we keep flourishing despite it.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Does having less ice up there mean we are all doomed, or does it just mean more chances for arctic sea cruises from Holiday?

I always figured Russia and Canada could be the bread baskets of the world if only the climate warmed up a bit.

Opportunity?

Seems like the liberals want to be so conservative about this issue, like the climate changing is a bad thing or something. Why so afraid of some progress?

You're kidding, right?

 

[abandonconflict]

First we are told we are going into an ice age, the science doesn't support that theory so they switch to global warming. Again the science doesn't support the warming so the name goes to climate change.
For years scientists have been telling us that the earths temperature will rise to alarming levels.
Polar bears will become extinct because of disapearing ice, the oceans will rise up to 20' and may get so hot that they could boil.

The hard facts: The earths temperature hasn't risen in 18 yrs, the polar bear population is thriving, the oceans are not significantly rising and sure as hell aren't close to boiling, in fact, they are cooling in the Pacific.

And the biggest fallacy that loons can't get through their partisan brains is that this is all about control and money, even if it was remotely true, do they honestly believe the US government can change the climate by legislation? lol

There was not a single line in this post that contained truth. You have misinterpreted the findings of science at every step.

 

[abandonconflict]

Does having less ice up there mean we are all doomed, or does it just mean more chances for arctic sea cruises from Holiday?

I always figured Russia and Canada could be the bread baskets of the world if only the climate warmed up a bit.

Opportunity?

Seems like the liberals want to be so conservative about this issue, like the climate changing is a bad thing or something. Why so afraid of some progress?

Yeah, fuck earth.

 

[jahbrudda]

There was not a single line in this post that contained truth. You have misinterpreted the findings of science at every step.

LOL why because you say so?

So the earth hasn't stopped warming the last 18 years, scientists haven't told us the polar bear population was threatening extinction because of global warming?
Scientists didn't claim in the 70s we were headed for an ice age and James Hansen didn't predict the oceans could get so hot that they would boil?

Only a fool would try to convince everyone that their eyes and ears have been lying to them.

 

[abandonconflict]

LOL why because you say so?

So the earth hasn't stopped warming the last 18 years, scientists haven't told us the polar bear population was threatening extinction because of global warming?
Scientists didn't claim in the 70s we were headed for an ice age and James Hansen didn't predict the oceans could get so hot that they would boil?

Only a fool would try to convince everyone that their eyes and ears have been lying to them.

Earth has been warming, it is the average surface air temps which did not increase the way models predicted. Polar bear population is on the rise following banning hunting them in the 70's. The vast majority of papers published in the 70s predicted warming. Some of them even went so far as to say the oceans could even boil.

 

[jahbrudda]

Earth has been warming, it is the average surface air temps which did not increase the way models predicted. Polar bear population is on the rise following banning hunting them in the 70's. The vast majority of papers published in the 70s predicted warming. Some of them even went so far as to say the oceans could even boil.

Glad you came to your senses and agree that over hunting, not global warming was responsible for the decline in polar bears and you admit the head of NASA Goddard Institute claimed the oceans could boil from global warming. The global temperature has not warmed, no matter how many times you say it, even NASA agrees.
Now, if the vast majority of published papers back in the 70s were predicting warming instead of cooling, then cite it.

 

[UncleBuck]

The global temperature has not warmed, no matter how many times you say it, even NASA agrees.

keep repeating lies, washere.

won't make them true.

 

[abandonconflict]

Glad you came to your senses and agree that over hunting, not global warming was responsible for the decline in polar bears and you admit the head of NASA Goddard Institute claimed the oceans could boil from global warming. The global temperature has not warmed, no matter how many times you say it, even NASA agrees.
Now, if the vast majority of published papers back in the 70s were predicting warming instead of cooling, then cite it.

I never said anything about polar bears until you did, it's a talking point not science. As for the boiling ocean comment, that's also a talking point, I didn't bring either one of them up because there is no research to back either up. Why are you so fixated on them? There is no research to back either claim, that is what I am telling you and what I have said all along. You brought up talking points and when I called them talking points you said thanks for coming to your senses.

Clown shoes.

Since you also made the claim that scientists thought it was an ice age, you cite it. Cite peer reviewed reseach from the 70's which concludes anything about heading into an ice age. Otherwise it is just more stupid talking points.

 

[jahbrudda]

I'm tired of providing you scientific evidence that goes against your global warming religion.
You're an anarchist who receives government checks and believes everything they tell you,
such a fail in more ways than one.

 

[Padawanbater2]

I never said anything about polar bears until you did, it's a talking point not science. As for the boiling ocean comment, that's also a talking point, I didn't bring either one of them up because there is no research to back either up. Why are you so fixated on them? There is no research to back either claim, that is what I am telling you and what I have said all along. You brought up talking points and when I called them talking points you said thanks for coming to your senses.

Clown shoes.

Since you also made the claim that scientists thought it was an ice age, you cite it. Cite peer reviewed reseach from the 70's which concludes anything about heading into an ice age. Otherwise it is just more stupid talking points.

It's especially hilarious since he believes he's siding with science and we're siding with politics, yet he cites politicians and we cite scientists.. He doesn't understand conflicts of interest, the scientific method, peer review, or the value in getting these things right..

The only other case of delusion I've ever come across to this magnitude is organized religion

It's honestly weird to see it in action, clearly all the money spent by big business and political interests has paid off

 

[UncleBuck]

I'm tired of providing you scientific evidence that goes against your global warming religion.

but you've been citing NASA, and they are proponents of the theory that human activities are leading to the global rise in temperatures we are seeing, beenthere.

don't you understand that?

 

[Padawanbater2]

I'm tired of providing you scientific evidence that goes against your global warming religion.
You're an anarchist who receives government checks and believes everything they tell you,
such a fail in more ways than one.

You've never cited anything remotely scientific, and the things you think you have have always been shown to be in direct or indirect cahoots with the energy industry, you simply deny it and act as if its valid, even though it's not

We've told you what it would require to change our minds and how you could go about finding it, you've stated nothing could change your mind

You're one of the very few fringe fanatics that still remain. I've never come across somebody who holds your position in public because most people know it's wrong and would be embarrassed to openly support it

 

[jahbrudda]

Your'e full of it, the only thing you or your fellow loons have cited came from a left wing source funded by George Soros

 

[UncleBuck]

Your'e full of it, the only thing you or your fellow loons have cited came from a left wing source funded by George Soros

i've been citing NASA over and over, actually.

you cited idso, who is funded by exxonmobil.

it's cute.