‘Don’t Let Anybody Tell You’ That Businesses Create Jobs.

[Rob Roy]

why does england have greater government intervention into health care and also lower costs then?

Comparing a bunch of regulated markets to each other without including a real free market example is like saying which weed works better then you go and smoke a banana and an avocado and wonder why you're not high.

Also the English talk funny so clearly they too are magically exempt from supply and command right Ricky?

 

[jahbrudda]

Comparing a bunch of regulated markets to each other without including a real free market example is like saying which weed works better then you go and smoke a banana and an avocado and wonder why you're not high.

Also the English talk funny so clearly they too are magically exempt from supply and command right Ricky?

Not to mention that the UK has a national insurance tax on top of their income tax.
And I'm sure more than 50% of workers pay income taxes, unlike here in the US.

 

[UncleBuck]

Because in those countries they don't let a 93 year old dieing from terminal pancreatic cancer the option of a new untried $3 million operation. They just let them die.

Also those other countries have long waits for non life saving surgeries and do not get the benefit of cutting edge technology either.

then why do they have longer life expectancy if they just let old and sick people die?

and are you saying japan and france and switzerland and england don't have access to cutting edge technology?

that's plainly retarded.

Also, those countries all have more doctors per capita than in the US. France has 3.4, Italy is 3.5, Spain is 4.0, Germany is 3.8 all vs US at 2.5. http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.MED.PHYS.ZS

so more government intervention and control in socialized medicine leads to more doctors?

that plainly contradicts the retarded screams of american right wingers.

 

[UncleBuck]

the UK has a national insurance tax on top of their income tax.

and yet they still pay less than we do and get better outcomes with their socialized medicine and heavy government intervention.

 

[UncleBuck]

Comparing a bunch of regulated markets to each other without including a real free market example is like saying which weed works better then you go and smoke a banana and an avocado and wonder why you're not high.

if "free markets" are the answer, then why do the "less free" markets pay less and get better results than "more free" markets?

why does all the empirical evidence contradict your utopian delusions and fantasies?

 

[ginwilly]

Not to mention that the UK has a national insurance tax on top of their income tax.
And I'm sure more than 50% of workers pay income taxes, unlike here in the US.

You also have to look at our diets. We are the kings of processed shit food.

Then you have to look at the fact that we aren't allowed to take the cheaper meds the Euros can because of our FDA.

We mandate here that you can't buy a cheaper drug made in Canada that does the same thing, you have to buy from an American company that makes their drugs in Malaysia.

Certificates of need makes sure competition for healthcare is limited. Insurance bound by state limits competition...

A health care suit will remain in courts for years making everyone go through the motions of cya until the suit is settled.

Because we have to make sure the i's and t's are dotted and crossed we have more professional health care people pushing paper than caring for people.

So, drugs are controlled and choices limited, insurance is controlled and choices limited, delivery systems are controlled and choices limited, more time is spent on compliance than care and in a sue happy culture, the courts are clogged causing everyone to practice with one hand tied behind their backs.

Oh, and the FDA approved diets are killing us.

 

[ginwilly]

Oh, and LOL at Clinton and anyone else who thinks like that.

 

[kelly4]

How many times have you dropped the F bomb, me, only once and my forum rights are restricted.

Well fuck!

 

[jahbrudda]

If government was involved in a limited role like they were intended, we'd be much better off.
They always screw things up for businesses and consumers, then pretend they can fix it by introducing more regulations.

 

[jahbrudda]

Well fuck!

that's what i'd like to say. lol

 

[Harrekin]

So yo

So you never answered a single question.
How many times have you dropped the F bomb, me, only once and my forum rights are restricted.
I've never once whined to the mods about anyone, how about you UB?

Why do you continue to try to portray me as a previously banned member, is it because you can't stand being trolled back and consider me a threat?

Lol, well fuck that!

 

[OddBall1st]

if the lowlives here trying desperately to manufacture some outrage got off their bullshit stumps for a second they would realize that it's people with money to spend who create demand and thus jobs.

creating more jobs is a decision of last resort for businesses. if they can satisfy the demand while hiring less people, they will.

businesses don't create jobs, demand does.

hillary is 100% right, and you angry wiffleballheads simply can't stand it.

When Government mandates prevent businesses from growing such as Obamacare premiums leading to cut hours, layoffs are in their future.

You can`t have demand if the business can`t produce enough to keep prices down, the new demand is then because they can`t afford it yet and that demand is to be avoided. People going into debt to meet demand prohibits growth.

A business that can`t keep overhead down cannot grow.

People forced to get a second job are not supposed to be counted as jobs created.

Hillary cares about Hillary and who she ..."owes"

I care about my bills and who I owe, Hillary does not.

If businesses don`t create jobs, Where do you work at ?

 

[spandy]

If businesses don`t create jobs, Where do you work at ?

He doesn't have a job.

 

[spandy]

Save you some trouble....

"you are racist"

 

[Harrekin]

Save you some trouble....

"you are racist"

White nationalist, supremacist, republican devil-person.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

then why do they have longer life expectancy if they just let old and sick people die?

and are you saying japan and france and switzerland and england don't have access to cutting edge technology?

that's plainly retarded.



so more government intervention and control in socialized medicine leads to more doctors?

that plainly contradicts the retarded screams of american right wingers.

America's lower life expectancy is becaus of a higher murder rate, when other countries manipulate it.

 

[UncleBuck]

If government was involved in a limited role like they were intended, we'd be much better off.
They always screw things up for businesses and consumers, then pretend they can fix it by introducing more regulations.

why do the more heavily regulated and government involved health care systems in other nations produce better results for more people using less money?

 

[UncleBuck]

If businesses don`t create jobs, Where do you work at ?

i grow cannabis and will be out of a job the second people stop demanding it.

 

[UncleBuck]

White nationalist, supremacist, republican devil-person.

look at his fucking sig: Multiculturalism works best when the ocean separates each culture.

if that's not white separatism, then what is it?

and you excuse it and downplay it, because racists stick together.

you dumb fucking racists are so asshurt about being outed that you can't stop fucking crying and whining about it even when it is not part of the debate.

fucking pussies.

 

[MuyLocoNC]

Now that we've met our hourly quota of Buck calling everyone racist, back to the topic of the thread.

Of course businesses don't create jobs. Everyone knows that liberal speeches and college professors do that. Dafucks wrong with you right wing fanatics?