honestly I do not use the Orange pump its a single stage 2.5 CFM, the other pump is a 2 stage 3 CFM, I paid about 160 from harbor freight. And trying to figure out the fittings was somewhat of a bitch. And vac camber is badass, its just to small for me. Im going to man up and buy a close loop and a vac oven, because I'm going through way to much butane.ODanksta, Ive seen that orange vac pump and chamber setup a couple times now and have found them for sale for a decent price. How do you like it so far?
Isnt that bitch to scrape? I am assuming that is your vac chamber obviously, ive thought about blasting in my chamber. But i have the best idea for the hot water bath. I cant really explain it I will just post a pic. But I literally just pour the oil out of it, then scrape whats left it takes a whole two minutes and throw on the parchment paper then throw it in the vac. It looks really dark, but I know dark doesnt mean bad. Was it old cured material? And last question what did you yield?Trim run post muffin
Trim run post 24 hour purge (pre-scrape)
I have a 3 gallon vac chamber the pyrex is just what i blast into and then put that in my vac chamber to purge before scraping. Its surprisingly not too bad to scrape. Especially after i purge for 24 hours in it and its already pretty stable. I usually leave the oil in the rounded edge and dissolve with ethanol and end up using it in some sort of edible. Ive moved away from the hot water bath and recommend you do too. It can add moisture to your oil through condensation. Also you probably dont want to pour directly onto parchment with oil that still has a lot of butane in it to the point that its flowing that easy. Grab a roll of Teflon sheet from oil slick its awesome. This is really dark because it was so thick. That was about 35 grams in that pyrex. Not super old but a solid month. Yeah as long as its not green color really doesnt mean anything good or bad. I didnt weigh the total amount of starting material. Most trim runs i do i dont weigh unless its super super fine sugar leaf and nothing else. But for trim its usually between 5-10. Ive once hit 12 but that was with super super nice sugar trim, it was basically bud shake haha. Most nug/shake runs are 12-20. Never cracked 20% though. Hopefully once i get a closed loop the pressures will help me grab those few extra percents.Isnt that bitch to scrape? I am assuming that is your vac chamber obviously, ive thought about blasting in my chamber. But i have the best idea for the hot water bath. I cant really explain it I will just post a pic. But I literally just pour the oil out of it, then scrape whats left it takes a whole two minutes and throw on the parchment paper then throw it in the vac. It looks really dark, but I know dark doesnt mean bad. Was it old cured material? And last question what did you yield?
Damn I didnt realize that was 35 grams, hell yeah homie your killing it!I have a 3 gallon vac chamber the pyrex is just what i blast into and then put that in my vac chamber to purge before scraping. Its surprisingly not too bad to scrape. Especially after i purge for 24 hours in it and its already pretty stable. I usually leave the oil in the rounded edge and dissolve with ethanol and end up using it in some sort of edible. Ive moved away from the hot water bath and recommend you do too. It can add moisture to your oil through condensation. Also you probably dont want to pour directly onto parchment with oil that still has a lot of butane in it to the point that its flowing that easy. Grab a roll of Teflon sheet from oil slick its awesome. This is really dark because it was so thick. That was about 35 grams in that pyrex. Not super old but a solid month. Yeah as long as its not green color really doesnt mean anything good or bad. I didnt weigh the total amount of starting material. Most trim runs i do i dont weigh unless its super super fine sugar leaf and nothing else. But for trim its usually between 5-10. Ive once hit 12 but that was with super super nice sugar trim, it was basically bud shake haha. Most nug/shake runs are 12-20. Never cracked 20% though. Hopefully once i get a closed loop the pressures will help me grab those few extra percents.
When I pour it out there is only a small amount of tane left. Not enough to react to the Teflon atleast I hope. And the hot water bath I use Is completely sealed so the moisture can not get into the dish. But like I said I have show a picture of it. I havent had any issues with any kind of moisture yet. I use to use a pie pan Pyrex dish floating in a stainless steel bowl but one day the tube slipped out my hand and sank the dish into the water completely trashed a large ass run, so after that BS I found a large pyrex bowl that fits perfectly into a large stainless bowl. I started off using 8"x11" pyrex, then went to using pie pans and now I only use a pryex bowl havent looked back since!I have a 3 gallon vac chamber the pyrex is just what i blast into and then put that in my vac chamber to purge before scraping. Its surprisingly not too bad to scrape. Especially after i purge for 24 hours in it and its already pretty stable. I usually leave the oil in the rounded edge and dissolve with ethanol and end up using it in some sort of edible. Ive moved away from the hot water bath and recommend you do too. It can add moisture to your oil through condensation. Also you probably dont want to pour directly onto parchment with oil that still has a lot of butane in it to the point that its flowing that easy. Grab a roll of Teflon sheet from oil slick its awesome. This is really dark because it was so thick. That was about 35 grams in that pyrex. Not super old but a solid month. Yeah as long as its not green color really doesnt mean anything good or bad. I didnt weigh the total amount of starting material. Most trim runs i do i dont weigh unless its super super fine sugar leaf and nothing else. But for trim its usually between 5-10. Ive once hit 12 but that was with super super nice sugar trim, it was basically bud shake haha. Most nug/shake runs are 12-20. Never cracked 20% though. Hopefully once i get a closed loop the pressures will help me grab those few extra percents.
I dry my material for about 10 days then dehydrate it for about 30 mins then freeze it for 24 hours. You can use better butane 7x, 9x or 11x but I do not notice any difference so 5x is what I use. I ordered two cases from amazon for 65 bucks. Yeah there are a lot of good deals on amazon for pumps and vac chambers. Yeah so basically after you prep the material, you load up the tubes, throw a screen on the tube then blast in a pryex dish the dish floats in a hot water bath so it doesnt freeze on you. And only blast outdoors! After the majority of the butane evaporates off you then throw it on parchment paper then in the vac chamber for 24 to 48 hours until it becomes hard where you can hold in your hand. I also flip the patty every couple of hours. You also have to make sure everything is spotless clean. I use 99% alcohol and a ton of paper towels to wipe everything with. There are a couple of good videos on youtube but there more bad ones then good ones.And a couple pro tips wouldnt hurt either
Thanks man, ive got the blasting part down, its just the vac part that im sketchy on. Ill check the videos. Why does some become wax and some become shatter? And what the hell is that shit that looks like a honeycomb or like a brick of golden bubbly fudge?I dry my material for about 10 days then dehydrate it for about 30 mins then freeze it for 24 hours. You can use better butane 7x, 9x or 11x but I do not notice any difference so 5x is what I use. I ordered two cases from amazon for 65 bucks. Yeah there are a lot of good deals on amazon for pumps and vac chambers. Yeah so basically after you prep the material, you load up the tubes, throw a screen on the tube then blast in a pryex dish the dish floats in a hot water bath so it doesnt freeze on you. And only blast outdoors! After the majority of the butane evaporates off you then throw it on parchment paper then in the vac chamber for 24 to 48 hours until it becomes hard where you can hold in your hand. I also flip the patty every couple of hours. You also have to make sure everything is spotless clean. I use 99% alcohol and a ton of paper towels to wipe everything with. There are a couple of good videos on youtube but there more bad ones then good ones.
Bret Maverick has some good videos on YouTube
Ive got budder from accidentally leaving my heating pad on high all night. Basically wax is usually when something has gone wrong, moisture or high heat, rainy dThanks man, ive got the blasting part down, its just the vac part that im sketchy on. Ill check the videos. Why does some become wax and some become shatter? And what the hell is that shit that looks like a honeycomb or like a brick of golden bubbly fudge?
Butane. Power5x off ebay. $35-40 bucks a case and the best stuff for the money. the 5x means basically nothing as far as purity. Dont use the "pure tanes" or anything claiming to be something more amazing, because it isnt. Unless youre getting 99.9% n-butane or other hydrocarbons youre not gaining any purity. and even the 99.9% pure stuff still is recommended to be distilled if possible.And a couple pro tips wouldnt hurt either
Agreed, too many variables. Ive ran under 24 hour old trim/buds and gotten almost clear product. Picked right on time too. Ive also gotten just over 24 hour trim from a different strain that turned as dark as hell. \Ive got budder from accidentally leaving my heating pad on high all night. Basically wax is usually when something has gone wrong, moisture or high heat, rainy d
ay or leaving dabs in a hot car will screw them up too. There are many of methods. Some people try to make budder some shoot for shatter. Im a shatter guy. Honeycomb is usually just a large patty of budder. Some people de-wax or winterize which will change the look. And others use ISO 99% rubbing alcohol and some use everclear that usually makes the bubbly fundge stuff. Different systems will also make different qualities, closed loop, co2 and hand held tubes.
And different strains also make different qualities. Cured bud is usually darker, over matured buds also make darker oil. Premature bud usually is the lightest in color almost even clear. There are so many different variables. And what I stated above isnt always true. Ive made shatter from 99% alcohol. Lol I started a thread last night called crappy old school methods and BHO fails, its a good list of what not to do..
The lack of heat probably gave it that look. Shoulda turned it up a little and it woulda melted it back down probably. Kinda like if youve ever seen Xtracted or anyone use a close loop with propane, they basically get it to muffin because its a cold vac. then just pop it rightr out. If you woulda applied some low low heat it probably woulda broken it up. But to each his own. Do you really get reaction for 48 hours of just vac'n no heat??View attachment 3286868 View attachment 3286869 48 hours purging and no heat, looms like its trying to auto budder on me. I cut that shit off and sold if to my buddy. Lol. I usually will just keep it vacuumed until its gone.