giving defoliation during flower a try

InUtero

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When feeding cannabis any nutrient with double digits for bases is wrong to begin with. You shouldnt ever use a 20-10-20 or 20-20-20 when feeding cannabis i dont care who makes it. Those are not proper ratios for feeding. MG also contains alot of junk in there bottles that are not good to be smoked or ingested and are known to carry carcinogens. If you use MG to grow cannabis and dont heavily flush your plants shit will burn like charcoal, idk why anyone would want to use Mg when there are so many better nutrients available.

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New here, lol. Been lurking around and noticed this statement made by PK_Boosted.

Sir, Do you know what you just said? All the NPK values mean is the percentage of NPK in the package by weight. That means for example ,20-20-20 is 20% N, 20%P, 20%K of the net weight. SO, all you would need to do is dilute it more when mixing. I would elaborate but I'm not going to spoon-feed you on this subject. As a Master grower working in a hydro shop, you should know this.
 
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Uncle Ben

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When feeding cannabis any nutrient with double digits for bases is wrong to begin with. You shouldnt ever use a 20-10-20 or 20-20-20 when feeding cannabis i dont care who makes it. Those are not proper ratios for feeding.
WRONG

Sure they are, use them all the time. If I pay $15 for a pound of a 20-10-20 dry food and you pay your usual $50 for a liter of watered down 2-1-2, who ends up being the financial dumbshit in this scenario?

You know what, your bullshit is so deep you're really beginning to stink up the place.
 
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a mongo frog

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When feeding cannabis any nutrient with double digits for bases is wrong to begin with. You shouldnt ever use a 20-10-20 or 20-20-20 when feeding cannabis i dont care who makes it. Those are not proper ratios for feeding. MG also contains alot of junk in there bottles that are not good to be smoked or ingested and are known to carry carcinogens. If you use MG to grow cannabis and dont heavily flush your plants shit will burn like charcoal, idk why anyone would want to use Mg when there are so many better nutrients available.

With that said scott the owner of miracle gro is actually gonna be releasing a cannabis specific nutrient designed for growin pot. Apparently they want to get their hands onto some of the market and get their piece of the pie. Idk if its come out yet or if it hasnt when it will but i know its in the works. Problem is like all other nutrients that they carry they are going to be synthetic not organic and probably wont be very good. Anyone interested in checking out if its available go ahead. Im pretty sure not many places are gonna be interested in carrying a product from MG at your local hydro shop id be very surprised.
come on bro. you know thats not true. 20-20-20, 16-16-16,10-4-10 all those produce awesome dank with huge yield. go look at Double JJ, or garden boss. you've never done that before. i mean no dis respect, but your over thinking this a little. Don't let those sales reps warp your mind. Are you even industry or do you only work at a grow shop? Again i mean no disrespect.
 

budman111

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How old are you 50? You act like a teenager.. You should probably grow up at some point. And idk whats up with your spaghetti western movies from the 70s but im not familiar with anything that occurred before 1982 so if u wanna put up little videos or clips make sure there from sometime in the past decade so we can actually figure out wtf youre referring to. Thanks
Not a very open mind have you?
 

pk_boosted2

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The high concentrated powdered granulas are different then miracle gro liquid salt soluable nutrients with ratios of 20-20-20 that need to be diluted and also has high concentrates of metals, toxins and impurities from the process i which they are made but w/e dont care.

** using elemental nutrient rations such as 1.5-4.5-3 (bloom fert) is better suited for what raw ingredients and npk is actually in the bottle. Not 15-45-30 that was my point but thats fine also.

I guess i should have been more specific when i said that but whatever i dont care anymore. U guys do you ill do me. Im doin just fine
 

a mongo frog

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The high concentrated powdered granulas are different then miracle gro liquid salt soluable nutrients with ratios of 20-20-20 that need to be diluted and also has high concentrates of metals, toxins and impurities from the process i which they are made but w/e dont care.

** using elemental nutrient rations such as 1.5-4.5-3 (bloom fert) is better suited for what raw ingredients and npk is actually in the bottle. Not 15-45-30 that was my point but thats fine also.

I guess i should have been more specific when i said that but whatever i dont care anymore. U guys do you ill do me. Im doin just fine
do you still love us though?
 

chuck estevez

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The high concentrated powdered granulas are different then miracle gro liquid salt soluable nutrients with ratios of 20-20-20 that need to be diluted and also has high concentrates of metals, toxins and impurities from the process i which they are made but w/e dont care.

** using elemental nutrient rations such as 1.5-4.5-3 (bloom fert) is better suited for what raw ingredients and npk is actually in the bottle. Not 15-45-30 that was my point but thats fine also.

I guess i should have been more specific when i said that but whatever i dont care anymore. U guys do you ill do me. Im doin just fine
you seem to miss the point, A GOOD grower reads his plants and knows what they need, The plant doesn't know the name on the bottle, only the fool paying top dollar for watered down salts does.
 

pk_boosted2

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Well there must be alot of professional idiots then because almost every large grower commercially for dispensaries and the like all you these "expensive watered down salts" so either were all dumb or maybe just maybe the people who are broke who cant afford good quality nutrients use that as a coping mechanism because they cant produce pot good enough to justify paying for quality nutes.... which im starting to believe is many ppl responding to this thread lol
 

a mongo frog

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Well there must be alot of professional idiots then because almost every large grower commercially for dispensaries and the like all you these "expensive watered down salts" so either were all dumb or maybe just maybe the people who are broke who cant afford good quality nutrients use that as a coping mechanism because they cant produce pot good enough to justify paying for quality nutes.... which im starting to believe is many ppl responding to this thread lol
wow wow wow pal, settle down.... Please stop, you've almost put your foot in your mouth.
 

pk_boosted2

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Not really.. Ive never found a nutrient i couldnt afford even the most expensive nutrient on the market costs roughly 7$ per plant OMG you need to produce a gram per plant to pay for its costs WOW thats exspensive huh?
 

pk_boosted2

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Just wondering why people who are growing the worlds most profitable crop are complaining about spending a few dollars on good nutrients kinds dont make any sense
 

chuck estevez

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Just wondering why people who are growing the worlds most profitable crop are complaining about spending a few dollars on good nutrients kinds dont make any sense
I'm wondering why a effin salesman keeps writing huge paragraphs of the same bullshit, No One is buying your BS, The plant wouldn't be green and healthy and produce top notch buds if what I was using wasn't complete. Only a dumbshit would believe the crap that spews from your keyboard. I know people growing those huge 1000 plus plant outdoor gardens aren't hauling bottles of advanced water out to their grows. and they grow buds bigger than the stories you dish up.
 

ButchyBoy

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I'm wondering why a effin salesman keeps writing huge paragraphs of the same bullshit.

It's his job!!!!


When I worked at the Honda dealership.. Honda's where the best.
When I worked at the Polaris dealership.... Polaris was the shit!!!!
When I was service manager at the Husqvarna dealership guess what.... Husky was Bad ass!!!


Get my point???

PS: Honda is the best!!!
 

pk_boosted2

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Yeah ppl doin outdoors is a different story if ur doin outdoors id tell u just make super soil w cheap amendments. Were not talking about outdoors and do u forget that nutrients are only a small part of what makes your plants grow. The reason they get so big outside is because of the sun smart guy.

Im not a salesman but ill take the compliment. I dont care if u run advanced u dont read the posts IM NOT EVEN using advanced im running botanicare organics right now. Holy shit u ppl r slow!! Seriously wtf. And i told u i like canna more than advanced idk why u guys r stuck on the fact i said they make great products i dont get it.
 

pk_boosted2

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If i was a salesman if u ppl knew what u were talking about i would tell everyone to buy GH flora because thats the real money maker 100% mark up not advanced not even half that. So your wrong again
 

pk_boosted2

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And u need way more gh flora than advanced because its not as strong but u wudnt know that either bcuz u dont run advanced
 
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