UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
yep.I'm a retard and an idiot
yep.I'm a retard and an idiot
You're an IDIOT. I agree with the overwhelming scientific consensus, just like every other rational human being. YOU believe in political bullshit republicans tell you so they can keep deep pockets with the fossil fuel industry.
You say that like speaking to you rationally would change anything, dipshit
You're a retard when someone tries to say something without name calling, you deny deny deny, like usual, then pull the persecution card when someone calls you an idiot.
Nobody is fooled by your bullshit, beenthere
That's Steve Beenthere to him.Full ON.
I'm just saying that ACC is a result of people treating the earth like property. Capitalism is not simply an economic system, it is a system that replaces ecology with economy.That's one angle, yes. It is not an exclusive disease, though. There are other reasons for believing such things; however, they may very well have some foundation in capitalism itself. I can say that my ultimate purpose is to figure out how I can use the knowledge of climate science for capitalist reasons. Whether it be through making or (mostly) saving money.
My political environment is (still) imbued with fiscal climate policy. Enviro fees, carbon taxes, fuel surcharges (for what? clawing back the subsidies granted to the resource sectors in the first place?), Air-quality taxes, recycling fees, etc. That's just a sample of the direct taxation applied to End of Line consumers, how many indirect taxes linger in the background of the production chain? You may not feel these kinds of pecuniary adjustments in your part of the world, but they are what result from taking this shit seriously. And that's precluding issues surrounding public services (like waste incinerators).
That is what the economist in me thinks about. The physicist in me looks at the question of prognostication in dynamic modelling, and the mechanisms of action, with a dubious eye. There are unanswered problems in both which need addressing if the debate on the subject is to be settled definitively. I may just not have found the particular answers I need to settle it with myself, but in my broader, personal inquiry with academia I have yet to meet anyone who could satisfy my queries which tells me the science is not comprehensively sound. To reiterate, I am not saying the answer (mostly to the CO2 vs Temp question) isn't out there, but I have failed in finding it or having it presented to me in such a way I can repeat the result, either by experiment or by scribbling 2-3 pages of tiny font equations. And when I labour down the path of finding that answer myself, I quickly come to significant theoretical roadblocks in the way of the "consensus".
And that leads me back to the question of motives...
...and Tesla valves
I don't think it can be overtly stated that capitalism "replaces" ecology. It tries to quantize it using currency as a numeraire, but ecology still remains. A tree is still a tree with positive externalities (and maybe some negative ones for those who remember Reagan...the sap will choke us all !!!!**).I'm just saying that ACC is a result of people treating the earth like property. Capitalism is not simply an economic system, it is a system that replaces ecology with economy.
Actually, it is because ACC is a theory yet to be disproved despite rigorous and tedious effort and the empirical measurements lead to the IPCC conclusion. All of the counter arguments have been shown to be flawed and or funded by the petroleum industry. If your takeaway from the scientists on the subject is anything else you're not paying attention to what the scientists say about the subject.That leads me to think about something else; is it conceivable we don't see more vocal critique from the science communities' members due to apathy? That is, if one doesn't believe the issue is pressing, why would they investigate it when they have other interests deemed more valuable to their time? That's been my takeaway from asking scientists about the subject.
Straight BSActually, it is because ACC is a theory yet to be disproved despite rigorous and tedious effort and the empirical measurements lead to the IPCC conclusion. All of the counter arguments have been shown to be flawed and or funded by the petroleum industry. If your takeaway from the scientists on the subject is anything else you're not paying attention to what the scientists say about the subject.
Most all of the computers models were found to be flawed and countless AGW predictions fell flat on their face.
not according to NASA.The 97% consensus was debunked
then why was this decade the hottest on record and the previous decade the second hottest?the earth has stopped warming for over 17 years.
You're arguing with a sockpuppet who started a thread about the weather guy from KUSI NEWS channel 51 San Diego.
not according to NASA.
then why was this decade the hottest on record and the previous decade the second hottest?
the graph came from james hansen of NASA.Still citing the garbage you find on Skeptical science I see.
This graph is from the guy who is not a scientist but a cartoonist and dresses up as a Nazi.
Major face palm.
Yah sure it does, I can see it says Skeptical Science right in the bottom right corner, dipshit.the graph came from james hansen of NASA.
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Then you must be that Steve guy, since you used his picture as an avatar.Yah sure it does, I can see it says Skeptical Science right in the bottom right corner, dipshit.
Another facepalm.
did you miss the part top and center that says "hansen 1981 projections", beenthere?Yah sure it does, I can see it says Skeptical Science right in the bottom right corner, dipshit.
Another facepalm.
Actually, it is because ACC is a theory yet to be disproved despite rigorous and tedious effort and the empirical measurements lead to the IPCC conclusion. All of the counter arguments have been shown to be flawed and or funded by the petroleum industry. If your takeaway from the scientists on the subject is anything else you're not paying attention to what the scientists say about the subject.
Is this your proof?Straight BS
Show us where and who found that all the dissenting data was flawed.
You're arguing with a sockpuppet who started a thread about the weather guy from KUSI NEWS channel 51 San Diego.
clean the piss stains off the carpet in your apartment before criticizing my work, beenthere.Your argument on global warming is about as good as the shed you built.
You don't even know where you stand on the issue. That is what you have shown. You keep insisting that there is no warming but you cite papers and articles and the guy from KUSI NEWS San Diego and Milankovitch. As far as I can tell, your actual position regarding the issue is that no warming is occurring. You are aiming for basically anything that goes against ACC which is broad and vague while the IPCC position and the apparent scientific vast majority (noted that you also deny this) is a well defined position with arguments that have been deemed sound. You can't just bounce around from position to position if it suits your ideological adversaries. We're talking about science and research and looking for truth, so what is your actual position? Do you deny that warming is occurring? Do you admit it is but deny that humans are causing it? Are you just another sockpuppet and troll?Is this your proof?