Joven Agricultor
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It's been said that you have enough lighting for 1 plant. Prove us wrong dude, veg 6 with that lighting, you'll be the shisnit!
Will this work ? What do I need ?
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bryleetch
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I'd really love to see that 3 oz plant that was grown under a single 43 actual watt bulb, I'm finding that hard to believe. Regardless, you have a good start, what you have will suffice for the first couple weeks or so. Don't get discourage when people are throwing out recommendations at you, we've been where you are and are just trying to help. Just learn from trial and error, if you think you're good go for it, if you actually want to know how to guarantee to get the yield you're looking for then have a more open mind.
Deadlytalon2014
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I know I know, I'm asking again... Don't I need like $100 fixtures for HPS bulbs or am I wrong ?
Deadlytalon2014
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Again though, this was just bag seed on a test run, I'm not really taking it super serious just trying to try out CFLs cause I don't want to buy all the expensive fixtures for HPS, so was looking for advise on using CFLs, not the usual just use HPS comments
if I could afford an HPS setup I would have one but I can't, so i was looking for some advise from people who use CFLsDeadlytalon2014
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Again that was stated in my original comment
but Watts don't matter, Lumens do.. Watts= Power Used, Lumens = Light Produced, the Watts is just how much it will cost you to run nothing more.
Joven Agricultor
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My ballast and fixture was $250, eye hortilux bulb $90, flex duct, 6" fan....... If you plan on going budget, go cfl, just be realistic, and listen to what folks are telling you, then research it on your own to fully understand it. Don't depend on RIU to teach you everything, do some research on your own. Don't just learn what to do, learn why you do it. Again plenty of people grow cfl, look through some journals, search for TheYokel 's grow journal he pulls weight from his cfl tent.
Joven Agricultor
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Watts don't matter my ass, without the wattage you'll never produce the lumens 
Deadlytalon2014
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Will a CFL special designed for growing work ?
lol, also, I saw a full spectrum cfl grow light, it was 60w with like 3000 lumens, would that be better then the standard cfl ?
Hydroponic Full Spectrum CFL Grow Light Bulb 60 Watt Bulb 5500K H60
Well true, but I mean, CFLs have lower watts for higher Lumens so the watts make it sound worse then it isWatts don't matter my ass, without the wattage you'll never produce the lumens
lol, also, I saw a full spectrum cfl grow light, it was 60w with like 3000 lumens, would that be better then the standard cfl ? Hydroponic Full Spectrum CFL Grow Light Bulb 60 Watt Bulb 5500K H60
Diabolical666
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IM following ya OP, work with what ya got. Add as much light as you can in the future for your flower cycle. Try to get ahold of some nutes in the meantime . t5 will run about $150 for built in ballast and all, then you can buy bulbs that are both blue spectrum and red alternating them in the fixture for flower. Jovan is correct about more watts is more lumens, but doesnt have to be such a dick about it. I dont think these questions OP is asking are too basic or out of line.
Deadlytalon2014
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Yeah, sorry if I sounded rude, I'm just trying to figure out the best configuration with CFLs, I can't afford going to HPS, but what about the CFL grow lights, are they worth the extra buck ? They are only $5 more then a regular CFL
Joven Agricultor
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Sorry for coming across as a dick...... I do apologize, not what I want to do.
I was being sarcastic, see the smily face, really wasn't trying to be rude, I talk to my kids that way, just me I guess.
I was being sarcastic, see the smily face, really wasn't trying to be rude, I talk to my kids that way, just me I guess.
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bryleetch
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Completely understandable, you'll learn to ignore the hps shenagins from people that don't realize that just isn't in the budget for some. A good rule for CFLs is that you want to run as many bulbs as you possibly can while still having a manageable temperature. CFLs give off a decent amount of heat so with bad ventilation you can be stuck with a pretty weak set up. On the flip side with good ventilation you can get away with using a ridiculous amount of bulbs that will yield you some pretty surprising figures. Playing around with the location of the bulbs help a bunch too, you'll want a bulb shining everywhere on the plant so that there aren't any shadowy spots. Growing with CFLs is a lot of fun you just got to play around with them to find out what will work best in your set up.Again though, this was just bag seed on a test run, I'm not really taking it super serious just trying to try out CFLs cause I don't want to buy all the expensive fixtures for HPS, so was looking for advise on using CFLs, not the usual just use HPS comments
Joven Agricultor
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Just go 6500k for veg and 2700k for flower. The .99 cent store by my house sells 2700k 42watters for .99.
Deadlytalon2014
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Wait, so I want 2700ks for flower not the 5500ks ? I actually thought I would want the daylight ones, can you elaborate on the difference by chance, does 2700k penetrate deeper with the yellow light ?
Deadlytalon2014
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Also, it appears this question was missed, would the full spectrum CFLs work better then the rest of the CFLs ? or would the 2700k do the trick
bryleetch
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Definitely not worth it if money is tight, can't be much of a difference.
Most simply...2700k promotes stretching and bud production, 5500k and 6700k will promote resin production and shorter/bushier plants. A nice mix in flower will do
Deadlytalon2014
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Ok so maybe keep the 5500ks i have and add some 2700ks when I flower
Joven Agricultor
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I think it's more like switch out most of them to 2700k during flower. Have the majority red (2700)s pectrum with some blue (6500) mixed in.
I know some people ise MH (blue) in the first 2 and last 2 weeks of flower. From what I read in the first 2 it's supposed to cut down on internodle stretch, last 2 it's supposed to help in resin production.
I'm flowering with hps, it's an eye hortilux, I beleive it's advertised as mixed spectrum, some people veg with them as well.
So I beleive you want a mojority of 2700k or red (looks yellow) spectrum for flowering, not keep the 6500 and add a few 2700. Switch out most of those 65's to 27's would be my advice, besides packing as many bulbs around those plants as space and heat allow.
I know some people ise MH (blue) in the first 2 and last 2 weeks of flower. From what I read in the first 2 it's supposed to cut down on internodle stretch, last 2 it's supposed to help in resin production.
I'm flowering with hps, it's an eye hortilux, I beleive it's advertised as mixed spectrum, some people veg with them as well.
So I beleive you want a mojority of 2700k or red (looks yellow) spectrum for flowering, not keep the 6500 and add a few 2700. Switch out most of those 65's to 27's would be my advice, besides packing as many bulbs around those plants as space and heat allow.
Deadlytalon2014
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Well, for $10, I can buy 4 100w (23w) 1600 Lumen 2700ks, and the Fixture to hang them with
so what I was meaning is, I can buy say 8 of the 100w (23w) 2700ks with the fixtures "$20 worth" and add them to my current lights ? or should I remove some of my current lights, and buy more 2700ks + add the new fixtures ?