Freemasonry & Mithraism

Finshaggy

Finshaggy

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tytheguy111 said:
well shit buddy your too paranoid lol

no one is looking to kill some stoner lol and you dont look like a intimidating person so you should be fine
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I have had more than 10 cops point guns at me, and like 3 people robbing me. It's not like I am robbing people and being intimidating. It will probably still happen though. In Florida we were told that usually when people take cars, they kill people, so we were lucky to be alive. But that was probably because of the stoner factor you mentioned.
 
mr sunshine

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Finshaggy said:
Not on RIU, and even if I didn't make any money, I would still do it. I am sharing things. I don't care if I make money, I honestly don't expect to live forever with the frequency I have guns pointed at me. Eventually someone is going to shoot.
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Who tried to shoot you bro? Let's talk about this! Fuck science and history!
 
Blue Wizard

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Finshaggy said:
Because I don't waste my time trolling people, so there are no shit talking posts for the trolls to come like. I spend most of my time just posting about some kind of science or history or grow journal or whatever. This website should be called "Troll it up".
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Actually I think it's from when the site changed, I know I lost over 1k of likes when I came back after the switch. The only reason bradburry has that many likes is because he has like 20 accounts that he uses to like his own stuff with.
 
Finshaggy

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The Ancient Egyptians were not the only ones who used Math as part of their religion. And you can still find remnants of the Religion in Math today. For example, the "Equal Sign" (=) if explained to an Ancient Egyptian person, would be "Ma'at" to them. Ma'at was the Balance in the universe, and they drew her as a Scale or as a lady with wings on her arms. And the = is basically a representation of her with her arms out.

The most in your face example is Algebra. Algebra was invented by Babylonians, then was spread through Mosques. People used to solve Algebra problems using Geometry, ex: The Egyptians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebra#Early_history_of_algebra
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhind_Mathematical_Papyrus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Mathematical_Papyrus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimpton_322

You have probably heard of the "Pythagorean Theorem", this is: A Squared + B Squared = C Squared, on a Triangle. Pythagoras was actually a Philosopher, and had a whole philosophy behind numbers. He was also the first person to ever point out that "Wine is good, but too much causes problems" and he actually invented the Pythagorean cup, which spills if you try to drink too much, and only allows you to sip your wine. Much of "Sacred Geometry" is based on Pythagorean ideas, and inspired a lot of the art that is on stone Churches.

You saw earlier that the Egyptians used Fractions, and Geometry and Scales for Weighing, and the Nileometer for Volume, and Ropes for Surveying, etc. But not all the cultures were using Math so practically. Math was considered pretty much Magic for a long time. The Greeks and Hebrew people had their number system in their alphabet, they were not different. When people say "Alpha and the Omega" that means A and Z, as well as like 1 and 0, or 1 and 9. But Omega was 800 (This is why there are "Roman Numerals" that are letters). Because Math was wrapped up in Grammar, these cultures would do math with their words. This math was called Isopsephy.

The Hebrew culture also had Gematria. This is where you add up the value of a word and compare it to other words, for example the word "alive" in Hebrew has a value of 18, so any word that adds up to a value of 18 is lucky.

Zairja was something invented to generate ideas. It is basically word Algebra. You take a Sentence or Paragraph, and add up the Values of the words. Then you do Algebra with the Paragraph and write out the word Values for the Answer you got to the equation. The idea behind this is that if a question is proper, then you should be able to "Solve for X" if you make an equation out of it. But they actually believed the answer was in the question, and just needed to be pulled out. This is probably still a good way to generate new ideas though.

Math is a religion. So Christians, you are probably summoning demons or whatever, and Atheists, I bet you are not worried about indoctrinating your kids with Math, so think about how you lump all religions together.
 
Finshaggy

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People like to think that Medicine and Science happen in Sterilized rooms, where everyone wears a lab coat, and everyone knows exactly what the outcome of everything will be. That is not science, it might be a routine test some scientists are doing, but that is not the bulk of how science moves forward in leaps and bounds.

For example, Penicillin was not discovered by someone working for Pfizer in a sterile lab, trying to cure disease. It was discovered by a messy scientist, who was eating in his lab space, and accidentally left a sandwich out. When he came back to the sandwich days later, it had mold growing on it. He put this mold in a Petri dish with other Bacteria, and it ate all the other bacteria. This is how Antibiotics jumped forward.

The first person to invent Vaccines also kind of did so on accident, or at least the guy he copied did. The inventor of Vaccines is Edward Jenner, but 30 years before he invented Vaccines, his friend John Fewster was randomly doing studies where he gave people smallpox on purpose so he could study their reaction, and one time he did it someone didn't react and he questioned them, and it turned out that that person had previously had Cow Pox. So he told people about this and 30 years later Vaccines existed.

Not all science happens like this, but a lot of it does. A more modern example is a spider they found in the Amazon, this spider ha venom that works similar to ######. But when it bites you, a guys wenis will get so hard it explodes or stops working via ruptured blood vessels or something. So now that some people have died from this (I think you would die, or hope kinda) they are now working on a way to turn this venom in to the new ######. So this kind of stuff happens all the time.

I just wanted to point those things out to say, Western Medicine is not the regimented, sterilized, perfect art we think it is. It is just regular people that went through some higher education, and now they are figuring some stuff out. And I told you that because I want to show you where it comes from.

Western Medicine starts in ancient Greece with the worship of the God Asclepius. Asclepius was always identified with snakes, and usually a non-Venomous snake would be kept at his temples, the snakes had free reign inside the temples and were allowed to slither on the floor in rooms where patients slept. The Aesculapian snake is actually a species of snake.

The Temples were known as Asclepeion, and they operated much like Hospitals where people would come from all around to come be healed. The way the Doctors would heal the person is by inducing a dream and interpreting it, then giving the person a prescription based on the dream. This is almost identical to Native American Shamanism, you may have heard people call Ayahuasca "Medicine", this is the context of that. The Shamans are meant to take Ayahuasca and come back to this "realm" with a prescription. And according to legend, the plants themselves actually told the Natives how to make Ayahuasca, since you have to mix 2 specific plants in the jungle. If you want to try to find the ancient Greek writings about this, there is supposedly a book called "Sacred Stories" by Aelius Aristides. He was one of these doctors.

The Rod of Asclepius is a common medical symbol, it is a staff with a snake on it. The doctors themselves were known as Asclepiad, the most famous of which is probably Hippocrates. Hippocrates invented the Hippocratic oath, which Doctors still say today.

Hippocrates is still considered the Father of Western Medicine to this day, he identified a few things that are still named after him sometimes, like Hippocratic Fingers, and Hippocratic Face. He also started the classifications like: Acute, Epidemic and Chronic. He also invented the Hippocratic bench, which was a forerunner to Chiropractor tables and some Torture Devices.

I am not suggesting we go back to the Greek Medical model, I just wanted to point out that the things we take the most serious, sometimes (usually) started as people playing with snakes and interpreting dreams.
 
Finshaggy

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Democracy is not meant to be any harder than forming a Tribe, and Democracy is not just meant for Governments. There is supposed to be Democracy inside Religious bodies as well as within Political parties themselves.

The voting body or city was known as the "Polis", and the Center of the Polis was the Agora. In some places the Agora had elaborate temple structures in order to maintain different functions that the groups did there, but when they first started they were usually as simple as an area marked by Stones as a border. The People would gather at the Agora and cast their votes.

As the Agora was used more and more, and functions were decided, structures would be built along the edges of the Agora, but the center was usually left as a wide open space for people to gather. the buildings they usually built were Court Houses and Town Halls and stuff. Extended Porticoes were sometimes used so that functionality of the space was not lost in bad weather. Sometimes Porticoes were built pretty much as their own structures, with a line of rooms at the back, which could be used as offices. Statues dedicated to different groups would be kept at these places, so that they could all gather in their individual groups or together.

The Polis itself was a larger reflection of the Agora. It would start off as a region of land which a group of people claimed as their own, with Borders such as rivers, mountains, etc. and slowly through the democratic process, groups were formed and projects were started, until farms were growing and cities were booming.

Leagues and Hegemonies operated like the modern United States or EU, or United Nations, in order to get things done between different nations and work together in times of war.

Eventually the Polis itself became Warlike and only eligible military members could vote, this eventually evolved into what is known as the Police, Policia, or the Polis. During Hellenistic times the Polis became a battle between Rich Oligarchs, and poor but armed citizens.

Today we can see most of the Polis and Agoras purpose being utilized in Universities, but not in too many other places.

Archive keeping is an important part of Government and Democracy. If people do not have information from past generations, then they can not make decisions for the future, at least not without running in to problems that would have been avoided if they had information about previous generations.

In Ancient Greece the most well kept archives were Law, lists of Public Representatives and the Winners of Sporting events. This is not much different from now, except now there is also the occasional story about someone who saves some animals, or starts a homeless shelter, or has an event, etc. But just like today, other records were kept by more specialized groups. For example, Temples were often a place where you could find archives, since the priests and worshipers would deposit anything important there. It would kind of be like if a church started a library, and asked all their members to donate any books they could that were written about Bible history or written by Historical Priests. Over like 100 years, that Church might actually have a pretty cool collection of stuff, even to non-Christians, it would be kind of like a Musaeum/Library of History.

I personally think that more "Temples" should be made, and more Archives should be kept. Even if it just happens in people's houses, there should be people collecting things like: Books written by people in their town, Books written by people in their family, Books written by Historical Figures, Books written in certain time periods, etc.

Most Theater, both Plays and Movies, are based on Greek and Roman Plays. Almost every Combination of Good guy and bad guy in almost any environment was already written about in ancient Greece, a lot of people just change the characters and settings to fit modern or even future events, and then make modern movies. For example. the Movie "Prometheus" is just Greek storytelling in Space. Even when it is not on purpose, most movies copy the story-line of existing Greek dynamics. So for an example, I think it would be cool if people who liked movies collected the plays that started the movies they liked, then found other movies based on those plays and put them all together. How awesome would it be to see the progression of a story all the way from ancient Greek telling to modern Movie "Magic".

Another cool example would be for someone who is interested in the modern Military of America, they could collect books written by people in service, then they could go through all the tactics that were used and the stuff that the people went through, and see if they can find other generals through history who used similar tactics, or Books by people who were under generals who used similar tactics, and then if there is ever a military mind that sees that collection in the future, it could effect the way he does things. Since he may learn something about the humanity behind all the tactics.

I am pretty sure you could also start with the books written by the last few modern American presidents, then after reading their books branch off into other areas that you notice while reading their books, and then keep copies of Obama's executive orders and any things the next few presidents do, and eventually you would have an archive that could definitely be useful to voters.

I have talked to people about the idea of Towns, and it seems like a lot of people think it is some sort of magic Craft to start a town. So here are some classifications and Political possibilities that most people don't usually think about.

Tribe: Tribes are the societies that exist outside of states. The State is equal to the Greek Polis, with its own sovereignty, and ability to join other states in a Union, League, etc. The people come together at the Agora (Capitol Hill in America) to make decisions, this is the state. Tribes are much more loosely governed. Tribes can be a collection of families, or a collection of religious groups, etc. and usually have some form of leader, either chosen based on the Tribes specialty (the best Hunter, or the best Warrior, or the Best Artisan, or the Oldest, etc).

A Club is a collection of 2 or more people that have come together for some common purpose. A Community is similar, except that is is a looser organization, and usually they just have the same values, not necessarily the same or even similar goals.

A Gang is any group of friends or a family unit that has a leader. For example, if there is a military family who all look up to 1 Grandpa figure who first joined the Military and started a tradition, that is a form of Gang. It is not an Organized Crime Gang, but it is a form of Gang.

Townships are the most basic form of Town. In America there are 2 forms of Townships, a Survey Township and a Civil Township. A Survey Township is just a unit of land that has been measured properly by a Surveyor, a Civil township operates like a County, in some states they are treated like a regular "Incorporation" type town. Civil Townships exist in 20 of the 50 states.

The overall name for Towns, Townships, Villages, Cities, Counties, etc is Municipal Corporation. To establish a town, you need a Town Charter. A Town Charter would be created by/in a State or County Legislature, and the people of that County would Vote for the new Town to be formed. A Town could also Vote to Split.

Villages are smaller than towns, and are not necessarily Incorporated. Depending on the State, a Village can just be a town that has formed with its own Government Body, but a smaller population than a town.

A Town is incorporated and follows State laws to form.

City is really just a big town in most places.

Counties are Administrative divisions designated by a state.

Common Law is how we get Laws from Court cases. 2 Modern Examples are:
1. The Affordable Care Act aka Obamacare
2. The Hobby Lobby Supreme Court Case

When the United State Supreme Court makes a ruling, it becomes "The Law of the Land" for all of the United States. This is common law. The reason it exists is this, for example: If you bring a Wolf to town, and no one has ever had a Wolf as a pet there, people might freak out. So the Police might get called, and they might give you a ticket, which establishes a Court Date. Then you have to go to Court, and argue your case, and whatever the Judge decides is the new Law for Wolf owners in your town. Maybe they say you have to give it a muzzle, maybe they say you can't own it without a license, maybe they say you can't own it at all etc.

Common Law works on all levels. US Supreme Court makes rules for the Country, State Supreme Courts make rules for the State, a County Judge makes rules for the County, and a City Judge makes rules for the Town.

A Common Heritage of Mankind is something that no one can really own, but everyone can use. Examples are the Ocean and Space.

An Embassy or a Diplomatic Mission is a group of people from one state/country, who own land in another state/country, and work to establish treaties and accomplish goals in that country/state. Once the Diplomatic mission establishes permanency it becomes an Embassy and the head of the Embassy is considered the Ambassador. Embassy can also just refer to the building or office that the Diplomatic mission is operating from.

For Democratic Non-Violent Protests, there are some Organizational tactics that can be used. If Clubs, Tribes are established, it makes it much easier to protest, this is why Unions are more successful when striking than regular employees are.
 
Finshaggy

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Here are the Supreme Court Rulings that are the "Law of the Land" and defend our Rights, such as the Right to Gather, and the Right to Free Speech.

Public Sit ins
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_v._Louisiana

Police May not Plot Against a Protest
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_v._Princess_Anne

The Local, State or Federal Government should not put "Breach of the Peace Statutes" in place, because they are more likely to incite violence than not
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cox_v._Louisiana

Police Breaking apart a Peaceful Crowd is Illegal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwards_v._South_Carolina

Most protests don't have any previous organizational structure, so the best way to establish it for the first time is to get people to line up in rows, then give each row of people a flyer to explain what their overall goals should be as a group, This way people can choose to do different things, but be following a main plan within the group that they talk to throughout the protest. Do not try to get people to line up constantly, this is only to create the foundational structure to accomplish a goal other than being loud, not a way to create a regimented force of soldiers. When passing out any other objects or flyers, they should be something that encompasses all the established groups.

The reason you want to make groups is to create more diverse functionality and thought. This does not need to be a division within the whole group, only within the core people that are there first. For example, if there are a group of people with Walkie Talkies in your protest, you would want to make this division within that group of people, so that you could all coordinate different plans. Examples of divisions of labor would be Making/Passing out Protest signs, Giving People Rides or Collecting Emails/Phone Numbers, Setting up a space where people can get water and maybe food, Making videos of specific protesters or groups and getting their names, Keeping an eye on the crowd to make sure no one is bringing like Molotov Cocktails in to start a riot, etc.

If you have groups you can do various things instead of just trying to be some random "Administrative Entity" over the protest. Goals should be to go to Libraries, Universities or Local/National News Broadcasting stations and holding "Sit Ins" or at least "Stand Outsides". These places are places that will get more people to come and join, as well as being more likely to be News worthy.

If you do NOT want to be in the News, use Profanity a lot, put a Cuss word in your Groups name (Ex: You can call yourself the Fuckers and it won't be in the news) and if you want to stay off of Live Broadcasting, write the word "f***" on your forehead.

At least one person should try to get Emails or Phone numbers from protesters, the people there are obviously interested in learning more.

Any goal that you want to accomplish politically should be something you care passionately enough about to make a Pamphlet or a Brochure type thing, at least made up of a 2 pages and folded together to make a pamphlet. Not a lot of people understand that they can start political organizations (look up "How to start a PAC" if you want to make one) or how to run for office in local campaigns. So having information about how to do these things can be extremely helpful.

Protests are not going to accomplish much more than getting the word out, and eventually you have to tap in to Democracy and protest by getting new people in Office as Judges, Sheriffs and Mayors. TONS OF CITIES have District Attorney's that run unopposed. People only think to Vote for Mayor and Sheriff and stuff, they don't think of running themselves, and they definitely don't worry about who the District Attorney is. But that is such an important position as far as deciding who goes to jail in town.

During a Protest, Police should take the role of an outside presence. They do not need to be involved, and according to training videos from the 60s, they are only supposed to put plain clothes officers in the protest. And if you watch the Yippies and the Hippies in the 60s talking in videos and stuff, they talk about how part of the plan was to get the Police to beat on the Plain clothed officers with them.

Police should not take an offensive position, but they probably will. If they do, what they are going to do is a "Show of Force". This will include loud barking, and possibly banging on shields or stomping feet.

If the Police do this, the best response is to get people to start doing some kind of beat. Like even just clapping and stomping "We will rock you" is sufficient.

If the police move forward, the main protesters should not run at the police to fight them. The main protesters should make their way to the back of the crowd to form a ring. If you hold hands behind the other protesters, they will not be so easy to move back, and you will be able to hold your position without them moving you. Having something to create cohesive units can also help, for example, if you have brooms or something, you could work together against the shields more effectively.

These tactics are meant to be a response to police over action, like in Occupy and the early days of Ferguson, not a way for protesters to initiate action against the police. The best way to initiate action against the police is to read their oath to them, or just elect a new Sheriff.

The word Thug actually comes from the word in India "Thuggee". When the British Colonized India, they found that there was a group of people that were not afraid of death, sometimes seeking death in battle or by running off cliffs, and they were known as the "Noose Operators" because they were very good at the art of "Strangulation" which in modern terms would be recognized as "Going for their neck". They would often work as organized Gangs, with district leaders and things like that (Police and Gang structure is pretty much exactly the same if you don't know). They would often split up and line up miles apart on a road way, then they would slowly join a traveling group, each of them pretending to be alone, until they were all together at which time they would lead the people to a killing spot.

The word made its way to America, and Tupac made it popular by inventing "Thug Life", people were already being called and calling themselves Thugs or Gangsters, but 2Pac put it in everyone's face. It originally made its way to America via the Italian Mob, which used their "Thugs" to do leg work.

Tupac realized that his people were afraid of/Believed in the Illuminati, and he wanted to Squash that, and once the president said his name on TV he had the platform to do it. I am not exactly sure who educated Tupac, but he was very inspired by Niccolo Machiavelli, Tupac was even known as "Makaveli". Machiavelli is the founder of Modern Political Science (Called PoliSci by students) and Political Ethics. He grew up in a time when the Pope of Italy would constantly declare war on the Italian city states, and many of the politicians were bought off. A Politician who has been bought off is known as a "Condottieris" or "Contractors", which in Ancient Italy was done openly, not as Bribes or Political Donations.

Machiavellianism is the concept that comes out of Machiavelli's book "The Prince". This book was written as a "Mirror's for Princes" style, which means it was meant to be read by kings and rulers. It is basically a book about how people use political power for personal gain, and it shaped much of the modern western thought as far as "Politicians". If you have ever heard "Politicians lie", that is common knowledge because of Machiavelli's book.

There is something known as "Malevolent Creativity". We all understand normal creativity, where someone uses their imagination to create something, or when someone puts 2 things together and makes something new, or even when someone just does something out of the norm to see if they can. That is normal creativity, Malevolent creativity is different. For example, if someone says "We have a drug problem in our town" and you say "Lock them all up" or "We need to crack down on our people" this is Malevolent creativity, a simply online example, would be if someone was annoying you in a forum, instead of being "creative" and finding a way to ignore them or deal with them, the "Malevolently creative" thing to do would be to Ban them, for being annoying. Most people have the ability to do complex problem solving and be creative, but this other route is taken by people who are more self absorbed aka Low Emotional Intelligence, or No Empathy which could lead to worse, more sociopathic behavior.

Many people think Tupac was trying to hurt people, but he was not. He was trying to teach people about Politics and how bad it was in the streets. If you listen to his music he is never saying like "Go kill people" he is saying "Why are we shooting each other" and "Why are our women getting raped by our men" and "Why do we let ourselves think there is something holding us down"
 
Finshaggy

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The Importance of Closing Your Eyes

I am sure most people have had the thought or question "Why do we have to sleep?", I don't have the answer, but here are some things that happen when you close your eyes.

Dreaming: We have all probably had at least a few dreams in our lives, some people even equate dreaming with "Good Sleep" which I don't think is a proven case. But when you close your eyes at night, your Pineal gland releases Melatonin, and Melatonin is what gets you tired, and puts you to sleep. Melatonin is extremely similar to Serotonin, and you can get it at various Grocery and Drug stores. 5-HTP is very similar to Serotonin and has been shown to promote dreaming in some people. AcetylCholine has been shown to regulate dreaming, and taking it has also been shown to promote dreams.

Meditation: When people meditate, the goal is similar to sleeping. You close your eyes and your Pineal gland will release Melatonin. This non-sleeping Melatonin full state is known as "Meditation".

Closed Eye Visuals: If you have ever heard anyone talk about an experience with something like Mushrooms or LSD or anything like that, they may have talked about Fairies and Gnomes and all kinds of weird things. This is probably not true. If you want to see anything "Different" than what is actually there, you will have to close your eyes. Mushrooms will make edges wiggle, and colors meld and shift in and out of each other, it will make Fire Amazing and Lights have Halos, and the Stars might move or connect the dots for you. But usually if you want to see anything different, you have to close your eyes.
 
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Just in case anyone thinks I am talking about "New Age" stuff, I want to explain what New Age is.

The New Age has to do with things like the Mayan Calendar and the Egyptian Ogdoad, so people think that I am talking about it sometimes. But "New Age" is a specific kind of discussion/practice. When I personally talk about Planetary Gods and Math, I am not telling people that 2012 was an alignment of the ages or that Sacred Geometry can heal you of things.

An "Age" is just a cycle that our Solar System goes through, this is why the Mayan Calendar ends, it is meant to start over, and start a new "Age". A "New Age" person will talk a lot about the Age of Aquarius, because that is the age we would be moving in to if everyone still used those calendars. Then problem is that "New Age" people think that the New Age was a shift, and now everyone will automatically act different. This is not true, for example, will you act EXTREMELY different when you hear we switch from 2014 to 2015 soon? No, you will pretty much do the same stuff.

And just something random, but a lot of people hear about Hinduism, Zoroastrianism or Buddhism and automatically want to call it "New Age", but Buddhism and Zoroastrianism are over 2500 Years old, and Hindu is about 4000 years old. If anything, Christianity is new age. Even though their symbol is the Symbol of the old age, the Fish/Pisces.
 
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