Just want easy to make vape liquid

[jondamon]

Growingdad

Just wanted to point out that EJMIX isn't available in the UK.

J

 

[GrowinDad]

PEG will not, in my opinion, make it less choky. And it won't help flavor. We have been trying, based only on observation/opinion, to see if we think chok is a function of how clean the oil is. Thus far, I don't think that's the case. I have noticed that a fresh atomizer makes it smoother as does reducing the wattage. But the latter makes me question efficacy.

With my nic juice, I never noticed the nic content made a difference. Some people are sensitive to PG and thus prefer the VG oriented juices. PG doesn't bother me at all. It does give more throat "burn" than VG. But I kind of like that.

You have no separation and a nice light color. Good work. I may need to try the boil method!

I've got some frosty, stinky bleu cheese about ready for harvest (today is 8 weeks from day I flipped and they are actually only a couple days out!). I can't wait to see how it turns out once ready!

 

[jondamon]

PEG will not, in my opinion, make it less choky. And it won't help flavor. We have been trying, based only on observation/opinion, to see if we think chok is a function of how clean the oil is. Thus far, I don't think that's the case. I have noticed that a fresh atomizer makes it smoother as does reducing the wattage. But the latter makes me question efficacy.

With my nic juice, I never noticed the nic content made a difference. Some people are sensitive to PG and thus prefer the VG oriented juices. PG doesn't bother me at all. It does give more throat "burn" than VG. But I kind of like that.

You have no separation and a nice light color. Good work. I may need to try the boil method!

I've got some frosty, stinky bleu cheese about ready for harvest (today is 8 weeks from day I flipped and they are actually only a couple days out!). I can't wait to see how it turns out once ready!

Thanks for the compliments.

TBH I think I do have an intolerance for PG as it tends to make my chest close up. I have asthma and it really does make me cough like fuck. Lol. That was one of the reasons I began making my own ejuice anyway was to control the PG within it. Most shop bought eJuice here is 70/30 pg to vg and it cuts my throat and makes me want to cough. I like a 50/50 as the PG carries flavour better than VG does.

Hopefully the PEG will help slightly.

It was pretty cheap so even if it's the same as straight PG then it will still get used. Lol.

It has only been 2 days for my juice though. So separation may still occur.

 

[jondamon]

Still no separation on the QWISO/PG mix.




J

 

[jondamon]

What I will say is that it's ALOT smoother to VAPE in a standard CE4 style clearomizer than in my Mini Protank3.



J

 

[SnapsProvolone]

What I will say is that it's ALOT smoother to VAPE in a standard CE4 style clearomizer than in my Mini Protank3.



J

Do the coils ohm out the same? Usually it's either temperature or wick material that accounts for harsh tanks. A pen with adjustable wattage like itaste 134 is tits. Whatever I stick on it, I can tweak the wattage dial to match.

 

[jondamon]

Do the coils ohm out the same? Usually it's either temperature or wick material that accounts for harsh tanks. A pen with adjustable wattage like itaste 134 is tits. Whatever I stick on it, I can tweak the wattage dial to match.

I've got a 1.8ohm coil in both the CE4 and the MINI PRO3.

CE4 is not a BDC and the wicks are long from near the top down.

Obviously the mini pro3 is BDC with minuscule amounts of wick.


J

 

[SnapsProvolone]

I've got a 1.8ohm coil in both the CE4 and the MINI PRO3.

CE4 is not a BDC and the wicks are long from near the top down.

Obviously the mini pro3 is BDC with minuscule amounts of wick.


J

What watt setting you like for 1.8 ohm? N/M Remembered you're not variable.

 

[jondamon]

What watt setting you like for 1.8 ohm? N/M Remembered you're not variable.

I'm VV with an ego twist 1100.

I like it between 3.8-4.3v.

Anything higher than 4.3v and it burns the mix.

Anything below 3.8v and vapour production doesn't seem great.

I'm contemplating an MVP as my next mod purchase.

I'm still pretty new to vaping to be honest and the eGo suits me right now.



J

 

[GrowinDad]

I'm still trying to figure out how different batteries impact the optimal wattage. I used to use the eGo type in the same range as jondamon. For my nic juices was a little lower. Then I upgraded to a better battery that goes up to 12W. If I vaped my juice back in that 3.8 range, I would get nothing from it. I vape my THC juice at 10-11, nic juices from 5-7 depending on flavor.

 

[jondamon]

Still no separation.



My PEG400 arrived today.



The big question.

Do I QWISO or BHO followed by winterisation for my oil to try in the PEG400???

I have a glass blow tube ready for BHO and 4x300ml cans of NEAR ZERO IMPURITIES butane.

Hmmm decisions decisions.


J

 

[jondamon]

Still zero separation.




Iv also taken 1.5ml of the above solution and added 1.0ml of PEG400 just to see how it vapes.



J

 

[jondamon]

Still zero separation.


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Iv also taken 1.5ml of the above solution and added 1.0ml of PEG400 just to see how it vapes.



J

Well the PEG mix is DEFINATELY a little less chokey. But then again the mix has been diluted now with the addition of the peg.

I see what people mean about the taste of PEG400.

To me it tastes almost in similarity with a Honey Dew melon.

 

[jondamon]

What watt setting you like for 1.8 ohm? N/M Remembered you're not variable.

I'm now variable.

Just received my Xmas present to myself this morning.

Inbox in itaste MVP2.0. VV/VW.

I'm going to be trying 3.7v and around 8.5w to start off with tonight on my PG THC juice which still hasn't seperated.

Over the festivities I'm going to blast some NUGS with Tane. I have a glass tube that holds approx 20g of product and a few cans of near zero butane.

Then I'll winterise the BHO to make a shatter and then mix with my PEG400.

Just wanted you to know snaps that I'm VV/VW moding now lol.



J

 

[BLazer1]

I will offer my opinion.

I have invested much into vaping with ISO made concentrates. Much into decarbing too.

I have come to a new realization about decarbing. Whether it is buds or oil made with alcohol, all of my decarbing will be done with zero heat. I will not exceed room temperature. 100 days of being kept in the dark, the product should be fully decarbed with all medicinal properties. Heat decarbing is a convenience that causes damage to beneficial elements.

Making e-cannabis oil from an alcohol extract.

You have 2 options that I am aware of. You can mix your concentrate with PG USP. How long it will stay infused depends on how much heat you use to mix them and how clean the initial extract is. I have noticed that the more clean the extract, the longer it will stay infused. If you choose this route, you are best off consuming what you mix up within 2 weeks. This method, you should try to avoid glass and in some cases stainless steel clearomizers because it can be very harsh. With the more inexpensive plastic units it is usually nice and smooth. I have steered away from this method because it requires heat to infuse the mixture and that means you are losing a lot of medicinal properties.

My preferred method: Use PEG400 NF/USP instead of the PG USP. It stays infused well with alcohol based extracts. A couple of downsides are the PEG400 is thicker than the PG USP so most units do not work well with it, they flood over and have other problems. Also, you can consider this to be a down side, the PEG tastes bad. This is easily solved by adding a drop or two or three of some organic flavorings per gram of concentrate, these flavorings are meant for e-cigarettes, any e-cigg flavoring should work, I just prefer the organic. Then you can make your concentrate taste pretty much like whatever you want. Watermelon, berry, peppermint, raspberry, etc. Here is a link to the flavorings I like to use. https://highdesertvapes.com/categories/DIY/DIY-Flavors/NF-Organic/

A good thing with the PEG400 NF/USP and using the flavoring, which helps to thin it out a little, you can mix your concentrate without adding heat, at least I was able to. You are limited on the clearomizer that it will work with. My favorite is the KangerTech AeroTank Mini. You will need a variable voltage pen battery. I like the eGo C Twist 650 VV.

I am baked right now from hitting my AeroTank Mini on a VV pen battery.
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I think I got my AeroTank Mini from My Vapor Shop. All glass and stainless steel construction. I have not had any trouble using mine with the PEG400 mix. Lately I have been using banana nut and raspberry flavorings.

I prefer the oil not being decarbed for my e-ciggs. A little difference between the two. Each offers a different buzz, small differences. The non decarbed oils are more noticeable on tasting the strains.

Hey gg, I read a lot of your blog and it is very informative. Thanks.

I am currently air drying a batch of oil . My question is, how many ml of thc e juice can I make from an oz of high quality buds mixing it with either pg or peg for a strong thc juice that can get you feeling nice after 2-3 pulls off a vape pen?

 

[BLazer1]

If you are looking for consensus on anything, you have come to the wrong place. Snaps, who posts I appreciate, like EJ Mix. I think it tastes like crap though am getting used to the small amounts I am using. I like RSO oil mixed with straight PG. Grow Goddess, whose info I also love, doesn't. She liked naturally decarbed oil with PEG 400 and flavoring. We are all chefs creating things...

Facts (or close to them):
1.) Your terms on vaping and mine don't match up. I posted a pic of what I use for battery and "tank". Matthend did the same. Any such system with a battery and a tank will work. After that, you are back to preference.
2.) QWISO, QWET, RSO, BHO, etc all will work.
3.) All will have horrible separation with VG. All will separate with PG except RSO from my experience. PEG400 has far less separation. With EJ Mix there is none. All of this contingent on mixing it well and not being a fool. I have had zero separation by using a small amount of EJ Mix and then using PG for the rest of my mix.
4.) Ratio is up to you. I like 2-3 parts of whatever mix per part of oil. I like to take a few puffs. This is up to you. I also suspect depending on what system you use it may be relevant.
5.) Don't confuse a PG or VG tincture with anything that could be used for vaping. For vape juices, you need to use the "hash oils" listed above on #2.

Demon Trich gave you everything. You just need to make a call and do it!

I reside in the east coast where none of the wonders of mj isn allowed.

The marijuana e juice is popular here but obviously hard to get. I'd love to make some using the methods in this forum,but not sure if spending $250 on an oz of bud is worth it unless I can get at least 8-10ml of high grade thc e- juice.

Are these the kind of numbers I can expect doing a 1 ounce Qwiso then mixing with pg or peg? Your input is much appreciated

 

[Grow Goddess]

Hey gg, I read a lot of your blog and it is very informative. Thanks.

I am currently air drying a batch of oil . My question is, how many ml of thc e juice can I make from an oz of high quality buds mixing it with either pg or peg for a strong thc juice that can get you feeling nice after 2-3 pulls off a vape pen?

Well, that depends on a lot of factors.

On average using top shelf buds I get 4 grams of pure oil. Different strains can vary. So, let's say anywhere from 3 to 5 grams of oil from an ounce of quality buds. I usually do a 50/50 mix. On average I get about 8 grams of e-cannabis oil. How much PG or PEG (PEG requires a little flavoring) I use depends on what type of vaporizer I plan to use. With the bottom coil units I typically do a 50/50 mix. When I use PG USP, the best rig I have used that offers the best taste is the iClear30, but that is not very discreet. When I use a pen vaporizer I like to use the AeroTank Mini.

All in all it is all based upon personal preference. Some people will use 70% of the PG or PEG which would offer around 9 or 10 grams of e-cannabis oil.

I don't judge it by quantity. I strictly judge on potency. When I eat one drop of my naturally decarbed oil it gives me a 48 hour buzz. Not potent, but comfortable. Two drops is a bit too much for me unless it is the weekend and I just want to "check out".

Hope this helps!

 

[BLazer1]

Great info as always. Thanks a lot, I'll give it a shot.

I first did a qwiso with an 1/8th, let the wash air dry then added a ml of pg to it in a shot glass and put into a cartridge. It gets me nice after 4 big hits and about 3 min wait. Not sure how much that 1/8th got me in oil but it seemed like a gram.I didn't winterize and it deff could of used a better strain and maybe a little bit less pg, but I guess still did the job. I want to try with an oz next and see try a 50:50 mix

 

[BLazer1]

It wasnt your other thread but here's the video....

His video is pure bull shit. I wasted time and money trying that technique.

 

[Grow Goddess]

His video is pure bull shit. I wasted time and money trying that technique.

Ouch!!

For starters, if he used 4 grams of bud, his final product is almost 2000% more diluted than mine!

I only get 1/2 gram of pure oil from 4 grams of bud. Add another 1/2 gram of PG USP or PEG400 which would give 1 gram. He got 19 grams of liquid.

I don't care how good the buds are, there is no way I could even think of getting a buzz using that method. I can't imagine why he pre decarbed the buds in the oven. All that did was cause damage. For the amount of time in the water bath, that probably would have decarbed more than enough.

I have compared it side by side decarbed vs. non decarbed. Each offered a different buzz and taste even though it was the same strain. I can't say the decarbed was more potent in the vaporizer. The only good thing about it being decarbed is if you drip or leak, you can simply eat it, and there is no waste!

I agree, that method is pure BS!