giving defoliation during flower a try

[waterdawg]

Which makes that grow and method a good example of there being useful situations for removing leaves, a situation that preferable should be avoided. It should not lead to the conclusion that "defoliation works". Just saying, in general, (@waterdawg )

@waterdawg: I thought they call it a seal in english. We call it a zeehond, meaning sea dog. I have fed and petted sea dogs as a kid.

A seal lol. No man, a shark lol. I Gotta say I wouldn't try petting a seal, some pretty sharp teeth. A seal huh, time to change the handle lol.

 

[Sativied]

A seal lol. No man, a shark lol. I Gotta say I wouldn't try petting a seal, some pretty sharp teeth. A seal huh, time to change the handle lol.

Or you could change the avatar to match the handle:

 

[pk_boosted2]

I forgot the persons name who asked for a pic of the flowers when i was done with the MK-Ultra and Burmese Kush still have a few days left on each but I clipped couple a small piece off each plant that were done for myself smells so good i couldnt resist lol..

MK-Ultra


"BUKU"


Sorry for shitty quality took w ipad again. Ill get some hi res shots when everythings done of the big stuff.. Wish there was a smell option on here (maybe some day!!)

 

[RM3]

Well I do believe I did quite clearly ask about the upper part of the plant. Seems to me that you had previously accused me of "dodging" the question in a previous post. And no you didnt address the upper plant that clearly RM does as well. Again the burying of the stalk is an old trick just curious about your thoughts on the upper part, which again you have "dodged". Obviously RM is not worthy of your defoliating wrath. What a dick!!!

you're wrong here, He is totally aware that I only removed 7 leaves and it was during veg, never flower. This grow is journaled at my site and UB posted in it. So what should the wrath be?

 

[waterdawg]

you're wrong here, He is totally aware that I only removed 7 leaves and it was during veg, never flower. This grow is journaled at my site and UB posted in it. So what should the wrath be?

Doesnt matter when you did it RM, veg or flower. UB's stance is removing leaves at any stage is wrong and he has belittled people for doing it. This is not about the pulling of leaves its about how UB's ego takes over when dealing with newbs and others on this site. I had promised myself not to get caught up in this but it's getting to be a little much. Constantly putting the site down, yet here every day, constantly saying how much better he is than others when it comes to growing. Not really offering anything solid here other than his overgrown ego. You know this as well, just look to the past. I commend you for putting your ego behind this time around and you must notice the change. More solid discussion, more ideals freely given and accepted. Dudnt want to get caught up in the drama. Just want to get this site back to the sharing of, and discussing ideals, even the far fetched and unproven ones. UB offers nothing other than basic, time proven methods and when people try other methods that he (and others) disagree with they are dragged through the coals. Besides he's giving old people like myself a bad rap with his crankiness. I really think he should just move on and let people here get on with trying new things without worrying about the attacks which are surely to follow.

 

[pk_boosted2]

Thats been my beef with this dude since i started posting its either his way or the high way. Neither road is worth traveling down. He is always right and everyone who disagrees is wrong, he makes references to information and cultivation practices that are 3-4 decades old. Alot has changed but he wont admit to any of it (although i wouldnt be surprised if we got a chance to go into his grow room i guarantee he would be practicing some of them himself). Dont care enough to dig more into it.

Glad someone else finally speaking out about this dude and his satarical behavior. I def heard enough of it for a life time. BOL happy harvests cheers

 

[chuck estevez]

Thats been my beef with this dude since i started posting its either his way or the high way. Neither road is worth traveling down. He is always right and everyone who disagrees is wrong, he makes references to information and cultivation practices that are 3-4 decades old. Alot has changed but he wont admit to any of it (although i wouldnt be surprised if we got a chance to go into his grow room i guarantee he would be practicing some of them himself). Dont care enough to dig more into it.

Glad someone else finally speaking out about this dude and his satarical behavior. I def heard enough of it for a life time. BOL happy harvests cheers

this could be said about you too. JUST SAYIN

 

[waterdawg]

this could be said about you too. JUST SAYIN

I do agree, you also got caught up in the "I'm better than you crap". I'm just tired of watching threads turn into train wrecks when there could be valid, fun, and enlightening posts. Seems a few have to prove their the best grower out there and will fight to the outlandish to prove it. God I'm starting to get preachy and thats was not my intent! Just fed up I guess!

 

[chuck estevez]

I do agree, you also got caught up in the "I'm better than you crap". I'm just tired of watching threads turn into train wrecks when there could be valid, fun, and enlightening posts. Seems a few have to prove their the best grower out there and will fight to the outlandish to prove it. God I'm starting to get preachy and thats was not my intent! Just fed up I guess!

I never claimed I was better than anyone else, I only defended my position when questioned. I only pointed out the obvious. Some people don't like my posting methods, And honestly, i could give a fuck. It's the internet, grow a pair and pull up your big boy pants. If you are still complaining about this thread on pg 125,you need to get outside more.

 

[waterdawg]

What does it matter what page it happens on? Actually that is the point dick head. 125 pages of yours and UB's ego. Not any valid discussion. Yes your right it is the internet and as you have for the past 2 years, spouted childish dribble. I decided to speak up, but intelligently, not with a bunch of pictures and clips. If your trying to pick one of your epic battles sorry not biting. Actually I figure fuck it, not much here for me anymore. I'll be back when the mods actually grow the balls to end this never-ending crap fest from a small number of total dicks.

 

[chuck estevez]

What does it matter what page it happens on? Actually that is the point dick head. 125 pages of yours and UB's ego. Not any valid discussion. Yes your right it is the internet and as you have for the past 2 years, spouted childish dribble. I decided to speak up, but intelligently, not with a bunch of pictures and clips. If your trying to pick one of your epic battles sorry not biting. Actually I figure fuck it, not much here for me anymore. I'll be back when the mods actually grow the balls to end this never-ending crap fest from a small number of total dicks.

go away then fucking cry baby, why hang around for 125 pages and then decide to complain because,YOU don't like it. be gone then. BUT, we know you won't. you'll make another cry baby reply, wait for it.

 

[chuck estevez]

in the amount of time this thread has been going, YOU could have done a side by side experiment and posted your results, But instead, YOU contributed to this thread, and NOW after 125 pgs, you start to cry. you see what I am getting at?

 

[Uncle Ben]

Pot calling the kettle black (and rude, "what a dick")

Look Waterdawg, I asked you twice (or more I forgot) what your observation was regarding bud density, nuggets versus popcorn, ON THE LOWER PART OF A FUCKIN' OUTDOOR GROWN PLANT, get it? I was going to make a point but you dodged the question. Why? One could assume that you were either lieing or one could assume that if you did grow outdoors and that you wouldn't admit I'm right about "that's just what cannabis does". You claim you grew outdoors, photos which I've never seen of course. I have grown quite a few plants outdoors (which also includes perennials such as grapes, peaches, olives, etc.) and the bottom part of the cannabis plant ALWAYS has "popcorn" buds with most genetics and phenotypes. The fruit completely shaded within the canopy of a peach tree does just frickin' fine as do the flowers which precede it.

You and you're plant butchering friends really need to stop this bullshit, this myth perpetuated by a bunch of botanically illiterate tards - that it's light not reaching the bottom part of the plant that causes wimpy buds and READ the many posts I've posted in all the defoliation threads regarding the actual plant processes occurring - apical dominance, re-direction of plant resources (proteins, hormones, amino acids, etc.), chronological development of the flowers.

Doesn't have a damn thing to do with your ruse that you have found a "new technique or concept". Has to do with an age old given - botany.

 

[pk_boosted2]

Its uncle bill i guess lol

 

[Deusracing]

Why rape a girl who is already giving you pussy? ....lol held for future contemplation

Damn I just defoiliated my random plant harvest date unknown strain unknown leaves I plucked dead n yellow will post defoiliated pics next

 

[weedenhanced]

Fucken lovin this shit lol I've defoilated before and done it hard core in week 5 of flower not for more yield or any other shit just to drop the humidity and it dropped the humidity lots it was defoil the bitches or get rot
My 2 cents worth

 

[Deusracing]

Fucken lovin this shit lol I've defoilated before and done it hard core in week 5 of flower not for more yield or any other shit just to drop the humidity and it dropped the humidity lots it was defoil the bitches or get rot
My 2 cents worth

Mine is 8 weeks in as u can see most leaves are crunchy lol I have yet to post her new hair cut

 

[Desr]

GREAT, you just stole all the energy from your buds. Will you have buds? Sure. Could you have had better buds? No doubt !!!!! Why rape a girl who is already giving you pussy?

cause its exciting.
and that chair in the 3rd pic, the dark one..looks awesome.

 

[pk_boosted2]

To answer question u asked waterdawg and i know what your trying to get at. The answer is that cannabis plants have atypical dominance meaning when grown without using methods such as topping, fimming, defoliating the plant will grow one main shoot followed by side branch lateral growth. A cannabis plant un touched by natural law will not grow anything but small larfy buds on the bud bcuz of its genetic makeup.

However, that the whole point of using techniques such as topping, fimming and defoliating. You are now forcing the plant to grow how you want it too as they do with bonsai etc.. With that said by topping and defoliating you can get rid of those small larfy popcorn pieces on the bottoms of your plants. By focusing the energy and light source throughout your plant and forcing it to grow in a manner that isnt genetically predisposed to. Therefore, in theory without using the techniques no matter what you do if you leave a plant alone and let it grow then the bottoms wont be shit but scraps and by product for its purpose.

Thats the whole point of cannabis cultivation and new methods to use all the techniques in conjuction and grow a solid plant top to bottom without having much if any of that small useless shit left on your plants. Outdoor cultivation and indoor cultivation are not comparable. Outdoor plants u leave un touched for the most part because neither light nor space is a limiting factor so trying to compare the two is useless. This is a forum and platform for growing indoor cannabis and using techniques to develop the best end product and yields that modern cultivation allows us too. Using a combination of these techniques is great way to alter and push the limits of a plant by forcing it to do what we want through manipulation.

 

[stankyyank]

"Apical" not "Atypical"