giving defoliation during flower a try

Dr.Pecker

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Like defoliating, that act will stunt the plant, at least for a while.
Do you ever recycle your soil? I never did for cannabis, I would take the old soil and throw it in the garden. But i'm trying it this year. Im re amending supersoil with cow manure.
 

Uncle Ben

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It does work with some plants I have also seen some rot from doing that. I like to do that if I see those little white dots at the bottom of the stalk those ate potential roots. I do know people that pull a ton of leafs off and stripping most of the branches I'm thinking wtf. Pruning sure defoliating fuck no
My fear too, as a noob decades ago. I have plucked many a petiole, buried deep, and never had rot. I also make it a habit to use my brain - pinch and wait a few hours/day for the "wound" to callous over.

Having said that there are some plants you don't bury deep. For example, don't know why but when it comes to peppers it seems to stunt them and once stunted, they never fully recover. You don't plant perennials like trees deep either, etc......
 

Dr.Pecker

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My fear too, as a noob decades ago. I have plucked many a petiole, buried deep, and never had rot. I also make it a habit to use my brain - pinch and wait a few hours/day for the "wound" to callous over.

Having said that there are some plants you don't bury deep. For example, don't know why but when it comes to peppers it seems to stunt them and once stunted, they never fully recover. You don't plant perennials like trees deep either, etc......
pinch out the rotted part?
 

Uncle Ben

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For cannabis, no. Too damn many roots. I too dump it in the veggie garden. I also fear problems like viable eggs of root gnats, springtails, etc. There's also a loss of soil structure due to organic material breaking down. When you make your own soil mix by the bucket load there's no need to be cheap. This is half what I used one session.
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Dr.Pecker

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This is the first super soil for me, I mixed up 4 large trashcans full. Ive been loving my cow manure blend I dont have to feed them very much probably not at all but I like to spike my pk a little .
 

Dr.Pecker

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Won't work. Once those spores are in the plant tissue. You might be able to salvage the plant with an application of a systemic fungicide like Myclobutanil which is labeled for consumables depending on the brand.
You said something about pinching and letting it scab over.
 

Dr.Pecker

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Cool chatting with you man, feel free to stop by the water only thread and give me some pointers. I'm going to unwatch the thread until someone quotes me again.
 

waterdawg

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UB did make a comment, and he is very aware of the tomato grower trick of burying the stem and approves. The other trick works better on seedlings than on clones but if you remove the big fan under a branch, the plant will push that branch up to replace the leaf, tis how I got all those big colas :) only do it in veg and wait till it recovers
Thanks for the prompt reply and yes UB did comment as I stated. His responce was somewhat muted re the defoilating part. As for the burying of the plant, i have done that with great results and have takin it one step further by pinning branches to the ground at intervals and rooting sections, it was pretty cool having a pot plant looking like a cucumber.
 

waterdawg

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Just saw Riddle's response and being we're both immersed in what makes a plant tick, his drill is excellent and something I've been recommending for 15 years. Any time you can increase root mass, do it. I use several drills to increase root mass both on a fun level and commercially:

1. Bury plants like tomatoes and cannabis as deep as possible upon upcanning or planting outside in the garden.

2. If planting perennial, using a subsoiler to fracture my clay loam allowing excellent root exploration of the native soil. Since it's been mechanically fractured, drenching the plants in a myco drench.

3. Root tip pruning systems - which includes scoring a potbound plant's rootball upon upcanning or using some kind or root tip pruning system either chemical (copper hydroxide paints on pot walls) or air/light such as the RootMaker products.

Uncle Ben
I understand your stance in the bury the stem thing, as I said in my follow up with RM I have done it as well. I was more curiuos about was your stance on the defoliation practiced by RM, I was hoping for some clarification.
 

AlphaPhase

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Wrong. Necrosis has nothing to do with temp differential. Necrosis is either grower induced or environmental/chronological based. The reason that I instill at least a 15F drop in day temp highs to night temp lows is to prevent the carbos produced during the day from being used for the process of respiration at night as opposed to tissue production.
I'm pretty sure it's in jorge's book, read it again. A zero dif in temp at day and night leads to necrosis...............................................................................................................................
Edit: I meant Chlorosis.
 
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a senile fungus

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Do you guys remember where the 'how to keep a bonsai mom' post is in this thread? I tried to search to no avail. There's too much bullshit on this thread.
 

stankyyank

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What a waste of space. Very low yield.
Well, it isn't that low if you compare it to root mass, assuming it is contained in the partial image of a pot. You
see the fire extinguisher to the right? Those aren't cherry tomatoes next to it. It's a decent plant. You can disagree if you see otherwise. For many medical growers, plant counts matter, and the idea of vegging a little longer for some extra yield is worth it.
 
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