giving defoliation during flower a try

[chuck estevez]

ok genius, everyone is talking about finishing the plant the last 2 weeks and you pop in with i just use sugar in the raw, then you try to back peddle out of it claiming you don't flush.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/does-it-matter-if-my-plant-still-green-towards-harvest.853489/

 

[chuck estevez]

Your taking that post out of context asshole. I don't flush dont need to flush all im giving the plant the entire time is fucking water. What the hell do i need to flush I recycle my own soil. Nice troll butthole

 

[Dr.Pecker]

Yup its a typo good job. I forgot ' and e.

 

[Dr.Pecker]

Nothing wrong with what I posted. Do you have a mental problem dude? I think you need some help.

 

[daybreaker]

The results, again I'll let the pics say it all ,,,

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Are you defoiling after you bury her up to her vagina?haha but seriously are ya?

 

[Thecouchlock]

ok genius, everyone is talking about finishing the plant the last 2 weeks and you pop in with i just use sugar in the raw, then you try to back peddle out of it claiming you don't flush.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/does-it-matter-if-my-plant-still-green-towards-harvest.853489/

There is a huge difference between leaching and flushing. I used to flush, then I leached, but now I don't do any of that because if you learn to fertilize your plants properly you don't need any of those bullshit myths. The product comes out clean and burns to a nice white ash. It is all about the art.

 

[Dr.Pecker]

Nice white ash that falls off easy.

 

[RM3]

Are you defoiling after you bury her up to her vagina?haha but seriously are ya?

a tad but only in veg and I wait till they recuperate before flippin

 

[AlphaPhase]

Hey ub, since you're too stubborn to read and only remember the science of the 1960s, here's the hypothesis. From 2011. Hmmmmm.... Not sure what to think, do you just make that year up or something? Edit : 2013. Last year. And they continue to study it because??? If it was cut and dry wouldn't you think they wouldn't be studying it anymore?

Conclusion

Although photosynthetic responses to defoliation treatments were influenced by both leaf- and whole-plant-level factors, by directly comparing these variables with multiple linear regression, strong evidence was provided that the direction and duration of these photosynthetic responses were regulated by changes in whole-plant S:S ratios in E. globulus saplings. There was little evidence that A1500 was related to Kp in week 5, suggesting that changes in A1500 were not hydraulically mediated. At a leaf level, only the interaction of gs and galactinol explained photosynthetic responses to defoliation, and, given the between-treatment variation in the relationship between A1500 and gs alone, there cannot be confidence in the capacity of this relationship to explain photosynthetic responses to defoliation without further examination of the role of galactinol. Strong positive correlations were observed between three specific carbohydrates: galactional, stachyose, and raffinose, and photosynthetic responses, providing some evidence that these sugars may function as longer term signalling molecules in the regulation of gas exchange. Future studies examining whole-plant responses to defoliation treatments should be able to use the S:S hypothesis to predict the interactive effects of defoliation treatments with other stresses such as water or nutrient stress on photosynthetic responses (Pinkard et alb).

Old school hypotheses too! circa 1960's hehe.

 

[AlphaPhase]

OK, that's the last post for me in this thread. Peace out Padawans

 

[daybreaker]

a tad but only in veg and I wait till they recuperate before flippin

I wanna try that in fact I have some clones that are too tall so I wanna try that its perfect.you rock dude!!!!!

 

[waterdawg]

I'm just hanging out watching the wreck. Nice effort alpha, using those reference's will not sway people, people, if interested, will try for them selves, perhaps a little less inclined to advertise it though lol. I do believe that when done properly, and when in perfect environment, some may experience success. RM has not felt the wrath of the anti's when in fact he practices a form of defoliation, albeit a modified form but still leaf plucking lol. I have to ask. Why no comments re: RM's plucking UB? Do you feel that some methods work? Is RM's practice beneficial or detrimental? Real curious why there's been no discussion other than one post a 100 pages ago. Perhaps I'm not getting it. RM do you bury the stalk below all u have pulled off and is that the difference? Or do you pull off leaves above the soil as well?

 

[Uncle Ben]

Hey ub, since you're too stubborn to read

Excuse me?

nuff said

 

[Uncle Ben]

Yeah, they can become necrotic after a while, but I think they become necrotic (i think that's the right word?) if there is no +/- dif, if the temps are the same day and night. It's good to know for sativas for sure!

Wrong. Necrosis has nothing to do with temp differential. Necrosis is either grower induced or environmental/chronological based. The reason that I instill at least a 15F drop in day temp highs to night temp lows is to prevent the carbos produced during the day from being used for the process of respiration at night as opposed to tissue production.

 

[Uncle Ben]

I Don't mean to step on your toes, but I've seen dwc buckets with 7 foot long roots they will fill a bucket right up so trimming is necessary. As far as trimming all the leafs off I would never do it. I trim some along with inner small branches just to open them up.

7' eh?

OK, and I have roots that go to china that don't need that kind of maintenance. An old zamal comes to mind.

 

[Uncle Ben]

When I use to grow in tubes, roots would grow down the drains and into reservoir. I would trim back roots. Plants didn't even flinch

Like defoliating, that act will stunt the plant, at least for a while.

 

[RM3]

I'm just hanging out watching the wreck. Nice effort alpha, using those reference's will not sway people, people, if interested, will try for them selves, perhaps a little less inclined to advertise it though lol. I do believe that when done properly, and when in perfect environment, some may experience success. RM has not felt the wrath of the anti's when in fact he practices a form of defoliation, albeit a modified form but still leaf plucking lol. I have to ask. Why no comments re: RM's plucking UB? Do you feel that some methods work? Is RM's practice beneficial or detrimental? Real curious why there's been no discussion other than one post a 100 pages ago. Perhaps I'm not getting it. RM do you bury the stalk below all u have pulled off and is that the difference? Or do you pull off leaves above the soil as well?

UB did make a comment, and he is very aware of the tomato grower trick of burying the stem and approves. The other trick works better on seedlings than on clones but if you remove the big fan under a branch, the plant will push that branch up to replace the leaf, tis how I got all those big colas only do it in veg and wait till it recovers

 

[Dr.Pecker]

Nice root ball looks like five gallon. No soil in dwc though. I'm sure you grow good stuff I'm not questioning it.

 

[Dr.Pecker]

UB did make a comment, and he is very aware of the tomato grower trick of burying the stem and approves. The other trick works better on seedlings than on clones but if you remove the big fan under a branch, the plant will push that branch up to replace the leaf, tis how I got all those big colas only do it in veg and wait till it recovers

It does work with some plants I have also seen some rot from doing that. I like to do that if I see those little white dots at the bottom of the stalk those are potential roots. I do know people that pull a ton of leafs off and stripping most of the branches I'm thinking wtf. Pruning sure defoliating fuck no

 

[Uncle Ben]

I'm just hanging out watching the wreck. Nice effort alpha, using those reference's will not sway people, people, if interested, will try for them selves, perhaps a little less inclined to advertise it though lol. I do believe that when done properly, and when in perfect environment, some may experience success. RM has not felt the wrath of the anti's when in fact he practices a form of defoliation, albeit a modified form but still leaf plucking lol. I have to ask. Why no comments re: RM's plucking UB?

Just saw Riddle's response and being we're both immersed in what makes a plant tick, his drill is excellent and something I've been recommending for 15 years. Any time you can increase root mass, do it. I use several drills to increase root mass both on a fun level and commercially:

1. Bury plants like tomatoes and cannabis as deep as possible upon upcanning or planting outside in the garden.

2. If planting perennial, using a subsoiler to fracture my clay loam allowing excellent root exploration of the native soil. Since it's been mechanically fractured, drenching the plants in a myco drench.

3. Root tip pruning systems - which includes scoring a potbound plant's rootball upon upcanning or using some kind or root tip pruning system either chemical (copper hydroxide paints on pot walls) or air/light such as the RootMaker products.

Uncle Ben