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Gquebed

Gquebed

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greatbranch said:
It'll be fine. 7 isn't that big. Even if they were 10, your plants would be good, but I'm glad for you that they're not. 8 weeks from seed, or 8 weeks following a 21 or so day seedling period? (I'm guessing from looks that they're from seed, but I can't say 100%) I bet your screens are full in about a month from now if you're running 18/6. I'd flip at about 80% if you're running something heavy on the sativa side. Sorry if you've got it all under control, and I just sound like a backseat driver. I like the mix & match lighting, and I envy the space you have available!
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You got it...from seed. And yes i was counting 8 weeks on top of the 18 days as seedlings. They hqd a really slow start though and are much smaller than they should be. Temps were much too cool...

Hey, no worries on the back seat driving...lol. Ive got a few grows under my belt but i still see myself as a newb and any help is always welcome.

As for the lights... i treated myself to the leds cause i got the new space. Hope they perform well enough to consider them not a mistake...lol if i can work with them to eventually get a lb per light with the scrog system i will be happy. :)
 
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greatbranch

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Thiz420 said:
First time trying to scrog some autos! Some Auto blueberry's and skunk.

http://rollitup.org/attachments/img_3222-jpg.3310351/
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Not trying to be a downer, but string dividing some plants does not make a ScrOG. I don't know that you CAN ScrOG autos, to be honest, but you can SOG autos. I only feel the need to say something, because the community has been lacking in the die hard "instructors" that would smack your fingers. Your plants look GREAT, by the way, and I have ZERO experience with autos. It's just that at a MINIMUM, you want your plants to get into a martini glass shape before flowering in a ScrOG, which I don't know is possible with a short vegging auto. Good luck! Mmmmmmm, blueberry....
 
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greatbranch

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Gquebed said:
You got it...from seed. And yes i was counting 8 weeks on top of the 18 days as seedlings. They hqd a really slow start though and are much smaller than they should be. Temps were much too cool...

Hey, no worries on the back seat driving...lol. Ive got a few grows under my belt but i still see myself as a newb and any help is always welcome.

As for the lights... i treated myself to the leds cause i got the new space. Hope they perform well enough to consider them not a mistake...lol if i can work with them to eventually get a lb per light with the scrog system i will be happy. :)
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Are your Solar Storms 440s or 880s? HPS 600 or 1000? I have a tent (the one that doesn't have the A-51 in it) where I use two 135W UFOs and a 150 HPS, and I love the mix. I know you didn't alternate the lights, because of your hood cooling, but glad to see you have things on wheels, so you can rotate them under both. I rotate every watering. I have relatively cheap stuff in there (with the exception of ventilation), so unless you have a catastrophic problem, I think you will be pleasantly surprised. I WISH I had your equipment! Knowing the LED sweet spot is key (but I bet you have heard that already). You can't go wrong ScrOGin' in my opinion. I'll never look back! I think Greengenes is one of the people who totally ROCKS those LEDs, but I'm not positive (not positive I spelled his username right either)
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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greatbranch said:
Are your Solar Storms 440s or 880s? HPS 600 or 1000? I have a tent (the one that doesn't have the A-51 in it) where I use two 135W UFOs and a 150 HPS, and I love the mix. I know you didn't alternate the lights, because of your hood cooling, but glad to see you have things on wheels, so you can rotate them under both. I rotate every watering. I have relatively cheap stuff in there (with the exception of ventilation), so unless you have a catastrophic problem, I think you will be pleasantly surprised. I WISH I had your equipment! Knowing the LED sweet spot is key (but I bet you have heard that already). You can't go wrong ScrOGin' in my opinion. I'll never look back! I think Greengenes is one of the people who totally ROCKS those LEDs, but I'm not positive (not positive I spelled his username right either)
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I've got the 440s. And the HIDs are 1000s but are dimmable to 600w, which is where I'll probably keep them for this grow. I also have a window A/C unit going... don't know if that was in the pics or not.

And I'm right with you on the SCROG deal. It may be a bit more work setting up and a bit more fussing and waiting in veg, but I it's a lot less work overall (less transplanting/watering and such) and the pay-off is so huge.

How do you like the A51? Or have you just started with it? I looked real hard at that unit... but the Solar Storms were just more available up where I'm at.
 
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0james0

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So, I'm ready to take my growing to the next level and scrog. I've been reading about it for months, considered it for the last two grows, but now is the time, when the current batch comes down in a couple weeks, I'm going to set up to scrog.

What I'd like to ask some advice on is how to get the best from a scrog, using a set up that has worked well for me. I've been growing horizontally for a while now and I would never go back. You can see some pictures of my last two grows here: https://www.rollitup.org/t/my-horizontal-grow-2.848863/

My thoughts are to combine this, with a scrog. The fact it is horizontal encourages more colas and I feel gives a good stem system.

Any advice on mixing this in with a scrog? I'm conscious I don't want to veg for too long, as normally I give it a bit longer to allow for the length to get bigger.
 
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0james0

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I should have elaborated as I wasn't very clear, I realise I need to grow it sideways, but am I best to just top it, then work those horizontally under the net, or do what I've done before and grow it for a bit, then flip it on its side (which is what I was planning)
 
yktind

yktind

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Totally up to you dude. I usually end up topping once and then have to do a little super cropping to keep them level until the screen comes down. Once the screen is down it is just pulling them back under the screen or weaving them until the screen is full.

The last two runs I have vegged for maybe 60 days and then drop the screen on them and flip straight to 12/12. Maintain the screen for the first two weeks of stretch and them let them go. At least that is what i do.
 
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0james0

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yktind said:
Totally up to you dude. I usually end up topping once and then have to do a little super cropping to keep them level until the screen comes down. Once the screen is down it is just pulling them back under the screen or weaving them until the screen is full.

The last two runs I have vegged for maybe 60 days and then drop the screen on them and flip straight to 12/12. Maintain the screen for the first two weeks of stretch and them let them go. At least that is what i do.
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That's interesting, so you grow without the screen, keeping it low with the snapping/ heavy bending, then put the screen on and move it around after. Must make early days maintenance easier access.

I think I'm just going to train it to go sideways from the start, let it grow a bit, then put in under the net sideways, let it grow up a bit more and repeat. Topping a couple times along the way. Only issue with that will be height of the screen, will need to be adjustable for at least two heights I guess.
 
yktind

yktind

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0james0 said:
That's interesting, so you grow without the screen, keeping it low with the snapping/ heavy bending, then put the screen on and move it around after. Must make early days maintenance easier access.

I think I'm just going to train it to go sideways from the start, let it grow a bit, then put in under the net sideways, let it grow up a bit more and repeat. Topping a couple times along the way. Only issue with that will be height of the screen, will need to be adjustable for at least two heights I guess.
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I actually let them grow to about 18". If one starts out growing the others I'll bend or cut. When I'm ready for the screen I actually bend the whole plant over. This is done over the course of a week to help prevent breakage. Yes, I have broken a few branches but usually they recover or it doesn't matter because the growth around it hits the screen instantly. It's a little hard to explain but if you check out my thread it helps because there are pictures. That isn't to say that how I do things is the proper way. Its just the way I do things.
 
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0james0

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That is a much smarter way to do things, it is a pain in the ass flipping the whole plant sideways and repotting, you always damage roots and covering it all is a pain.

I'll check the thread out, thanks.

I'm guessing it will just be a trial and error to see what works for me, its just a shame each cycle takes 4 months to get through, learned loads from my last one, now impatiently waiting for them to finish cooking so I can improve on the next batch.
 
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0james0

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yktind said:
I actually let them grow to about 18". If one starts out growing the others I'll bend or cut. When I'm ready for the screen I actually bend the whole plant over. This is done over the course of a week to help prevent breakage. Yes, I have broken a few branches but usually they recover or it doesn't matter because the growth around it hits the screen instantly. It's a little hard to explain but if you check out my thread it helps because there are pictures. That isn't to say that how I do things is the proper way. Its just the way I do things.
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Have you ever been brave enough to attempt a main stem super crop? I was thinking the knot could give it a really nice support and flow if done early, although I still cringe doing the side ones every time!
 
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harris hawk

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How many plant for SCROG fro a 2.5 feet wide and 3 feet long? Also heard that auto's are not good for scrog, topping, ect. Just for a shealth grow or a few small grow space, also no clonnig is recommended also Auto's do have there place in marijuana cultivation
 
yktind

yktind

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0james0 said:
Have you ever been brave enough to attempt a main stem super crop? I was thinking the knot could give it a really nice support and flow if done early, although I still cringe doing the side ones every time!
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You can super crop any part. Worse comes to worse just delay flowering by a week or so until it recovers.
 
akhiymjames

akhiymjames

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0james0 said:
Have you ever been brave enough to attempt a main stem super crop? I was thinking the knot could give it a really nice support and flow if done early, although I still cringe doing the side ones every time!
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Man I've supercropped the main stem of plants so many times. Just like doing a side branch. If the strain is already great at branching out then it branches out like crazy after super rolling the main stem. Try it bro you will like the results
 
ODanksta

ODanksta

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My first scrog. 1K hps, 25 gallon pot, organic no till. 6 weeks veg. This wasn't by choice she just got to big and collapsed. So I had to to save her... the strain I bred myself is shoreline x Herijuana F3CAM02377.jpg CAM02338.jpg CAM02347.jpg
 
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