Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

SouthernSoil*

SouthernSoil*

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Mad Hamish said:
That burn looks like jeat stress in a hot soil mix, nothing to panic about at this point. Lamp height is fine bro, looks waaaaaaay further in the pics. Actually on the line to too close but I see you havea probe in the canopy so I am certain you have your eyes on all parameters. Two more weeks of stretch left, things are going to get tight in there soon enough lol. I wish my first run came close, total ghetto style that was. Total herm factory, it wasn't pretty. Kicking ass mate. Anyhow, it is not so much that I experiment with different methods, it is more a case of what is available either on my land or as close to as possible to work with. In the end it is all compost, whether it was made with lawn and kitchen scraps or a tweaked heap with manure or out of my wormy bins. I see it all as the same method, Living Organics, and seeing as the plant is in control results are insanely predictable now I have learned not to pump it up with too many nitrogen sources and to always use lacto's. From there it is the ratio of thirds in the base mixes, and that is it. As I mentioned I top dress liberally which is enough to keep building my soil as I recycle, each run I add more than the plant takes out. I never plant anything but canna in my soils so after three generations they are pretty much loaded with a cannabis specific micro herd. I am going one step further and developing PHENO specific micro herds, where I only run ONE CUT in that soil. Hitting generation 3 on the Zombie Balls now, yields are already much improved while high and flavor remain perfectly unchanged, each clone so far has hit and tasted the same. But it all boils down to soil structure in the end.
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Could of possibly been the 60 grams each of lucerne i blended in my food blender although it seems like a minimal worry you right brother, i looked at that previous pic again its crazy how far it looks even i think they like 60 cm from the light, i should take another pic at that angle and see how they look cause they put on tremendously quick growth the last week as they got used to the light, that diesel at the back right shot up taller than the church in literally 2 days i see now ?

Awe bro, i been keeping a good eye on the temperatures, ducted my hot air properly now putting the ac on now & then but temps sit at about 29-30c(86f), i might switch the indica dom with the church seeing as it wants to take on a more wider spread, ill be glad if these 3 can make good use of the tent hopefully not crowding too much lol. Bro i tried some smaller indoor grows which were ghetto but never really got away with it due to heat and so forth, its been a long long wait with this setup & without your help i doubt id have ladies looking like that !

Respect bro, thats a good principle to work with use what you have or what can be aquired easily close by, i take it too much nitrogen could lock out other elements bro ? Amazing how the microherds work after you built up that soil for a while, thats really interesting information brother & pheno specific micro herds thats seriously next level !! : ) Soil structure on the other hand depends on alot of factors but when you making your own your own i can imagine its hard to get it perfectly the same all the time ?
 
Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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Cool keep them temps as stable as possible, 28 is right in the sweet spot IMO. Nitrogen doesn't really cause lock out just burn, but can easily be locked out by a few factors. I found that too much makes for very leafy girls, indies grow these hue fans and teeeeny buds if fed too much. Eagle claws and other weird stuff. Just one of those things where more is NOT better lol
 
SouthernSoil*

SouthernSoil*

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Mad Hamish said:
Cool keep them temps as stable as possible, 28 is right in the sweet spot IMO. Nitrogen doesn't really cause lock out just burn, but can easily be locked out by a few factors. I found that too much makes for very leafy girls, indies grow these hue fans and teeeeny buds if fed too much. Eagle claws and other weird stuff. Just one of those things where more is NOT better lol
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Got it bro, will try keep it as close to 28 as possible. Alot of N is definitely unwanted then, i hope the dried lucerne i added as mulch wont break down too much? shit id cry if i didnt know that & ended up with popcorn heads lol, like you said brother less is more ! Respect
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SouthernSoil*

SouthernSoil*

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Mad Hamish said:
Nah that should be fine as a mulch mate no stress. Not much chance of pure popcorn there lol
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Lol thank you bro, with the rate they growing im hopeful for some beautiful flowers, im eager to see how they will stretch though, will the seedling have a chance or will they block out all its light lol
Respect :leaf:
 
Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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SouthernSoil* said:
Lol thank you bro, with the rate they growing im hopeful for some beautiful flowers, im eager to see how they will stretch though, will the seedling have a chance or will they block out all its light lol
Respect :leaf:
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Good question, looks like it is going to get pretty dense in there you might have to raise her pot for a while there. I usually just invert an empty pot and use it as a stand.
 
SouthernSoil*

SouthernSoil*

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Sweet brother, i will definitely keep her raised, an inverted pot is a good idea, got one sitting outside. Atleast the super skunk lady only has a 45-55 day flowering period so that helps alot, sprayed some margaret roberts organic insecticide just for some maintenance incase, saw a little fly or two but definitely way less than had when i started.

How is your run going bro ?
 
Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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SouthernSoil* said:
Sweet brother, i will definitely keep her raised, an inverted pot is a good idea, got one sitting outside. Atleast the super skunk lady only has a 45-55 day flowering period so that helps alot, sprayed some margaret roberts organic insecticide just for some maintenance incase, saw a little fly or two but definitely way less than had when i started.

How is your run going bro ?
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Can't complain mate
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Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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Oh hell no, super expansive smoke that threatens to burst your chest in a bong. Clouds of friggin milk on exhale. Old school :)
 
Midwest Weedist

Midwest Weedist

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Can someone help me understand how lactobacillus acidophilus is beneficial cannabis growing? I'm familiar with using it to make a hobaski composting bin, but as a soil conditioner I'm relatively uninformed.
 
Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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Midwest Weedist said:
Can someone help me understand how lactobacillus acidophilus is beneficial cannabis growing? I'm familiar with using it to make a hobaski composting bin, but as a soil conditioner I'm relatively uninformed.
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Basically it converts ammonia nitrogen into nitrates, and immobilises them by keeping them inside cell walls. This does several things, firstly it gives soil that sweet rich smell, secondly it cools a hot mix by getting rid of ammonia which is in many high n sources like manure and guano so if you use those definitely use some lacto b.
Finally it allows the plant to take control of its own nitrogen uptake, as immobilised elements are carried to the plant via fungal hyphae that only do so when the plant demands it. It is the most abundant bacteria on this planet, I have seen it referred to as 'nature's work horse'
 
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CannaBare

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Mad Hamish said:
Basically it converts ammonia nitrogen into nitrates, and immobilises them by keeping them inside cell walls. This does several things, firstly it gives soil that sweet rich smell, secondly it cools a hot mix by getting rid of ammonia which is in many high n sources like manure and guano so if you use those definitely use some lacto b.
Finally it allows the plant to take control of its own nitrogen uptake, as immobilised elements are carried to the plant via fungal hyphae that only do so when the plant demands it. It is the most abundant bacteria on this planet, I have seen it referred to as 'nature's work horse'
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Great info Thanks! I am going to start my first culture
 
Midwest Weedist

Midwest Weedist

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Mad Hamish said:
Basically it converts ammonia nitrogen into nitrates, and immobilises them by keeping them inside cell walls. This does several things, firstly it gives soil that sweet rich smell, secondly it cools a hot mix by getting rid of ammonia which is in many high n sources like manure and guano so if you use those definitely use some lacto b.
Finally it allows the plant to take control of its own nitrogen uptake, as immobilised elements are carried to the plant via fungal hyphae that only do so when the plant demands it. It is the most abundant bacteria on this planet, I have seen it referred to as 'nature's work horse'
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Thank you! I knew it had something do with helping breakdown nutrients. I need to bust out the molasses and rice to start another culture.
 
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