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ballist

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Can you share where you might be ordering your reflectors from? I have a list of 6 0r 7 different reflectors for Vero 10's and haven't been able to order any of them :peace:
I haven't really checked around yet but I may try alixpress for reflectors and drivers.
 

Abiqua

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I'm in the eu where veros are a bit easier to come by. Execpt for vege in the same space I don't see the value in a dimable driver. 1 driver per bar is the goal so 3 veros of 1 driver. I would like to run 730 at end of day so I will get some cheapo leds fot that. I will go for quality 660nm and run 20 - 50 watts. Something like 10 watts in each cornrt of the tent could work I think. I need to get all this fixed now for the party cup
This driver would realistically replace at least two drivers capable of 3 Veros in a series string.....if not more...http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Philips-Advance-Xitanium-150W-35A-120-277V-LED-Driver-LEDINTA0350C425FO-/251422667632?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a89f57370
 

ballist

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If you go CXA,Ideal has a no solder holder that can be used with a reflector holder where the reflector can be removed if you need to by a simple twist,not sure if Veros has a similar option.
After 40 +years in electronics I'm not scared of a little soldering :) finding a nice heatsink is more of a challenge I guess. I would like 80cm lengths or I will need to get inventive with some cpu coolers.
 

captainmorgan

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I'm in the eu where veros are a bit easier to come by. Execpt for vege in the same space I don't see the value in a dimable driver. 1 driver per bar is the goal so 3 veros of 1 driver. I would like to run 730 at end of day so I will get some cheapo leds fot that. I will go for quality 660nm and run 20 - 50 watts. Something like 10 watts in each cornrt of the tent could work I think. I need to get all this fixed now for the party cup
Veros sound right for you then. I have two suggestions,first try to make your reflectors easily removable or exchangeable to different angle ones,I think it was Positivity that was using reflectors on COBs and I think he removed them because of to much intensity and the added head room needed. Second would be to make your 660s more flexible by either more than one driver or dim-able,to much 660 can make your plants stretch like crazy.
 

ballist

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I like it^^^...........should do very well, with reflectors gonna need some head-room grower
I will get a 1x1x2m tent. 4 plants fit nicely in that space. I have this stuff but it is 1000km from this grow site buying a new tent is cheaper than spending money on gas.
 

ballist

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This driver would realistically replace at least two drivers capable of 3 Veros in a series string.....if not more...http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Philips-Advance-Xitanium-150W-35A-120-277V-LED-Driver-LEDINTA0350C425FO-/251422667632?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a89f57370
Would be good for vero 10s but I will need to run 1amp. I bought some 100w ppen frame drivers from China which were working well for 17$ each. I was think of using 1 to power 3 leds. Depending how well they are matched it could work well.
 

ballist

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Veros sound right for you then. I have two suggestions,first try to make your reflectors easily removable or exchangeable to different angle ones,I think it was Positivity that was using reflectors on COBs and I think he removed them because of to much intensity and the added head room needed. Second would be to make your 660s more flexible by either more than one driver or dim-able,to much 660 can make your plants stretch like crazy.
I hadn't thought about dimming the 660 but now that you mention it, it would probably be a good idea to have that driver dimmable. The other drivers will be maxed out with the 3 veros each? Might try and scrounge some philips reds from the guys in the building opposite.
 

captainmorgan

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Was thinking of 3500k. Will run reflectors with them. I probably will add a little 660nm. Looking for 30-40watts a sqf. Layout 3 bars with 3 leds. I need to find a good power solution as well
With 3500 k you might also want to add some 630 and make them adjustable too.
 

nomofatum

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Do you have a spectral graph of the Vero 3500 k your looking at?
Yep, not horrible in blue, but still lower than I would consider running. I would put at least 1 5000k (5500-6500k if made, but they don't show those as options on the PDF I am looking at[3000k,4000k,5000k listed]) from that line in my setup, but I won't take it personally if you or the guy buying them chooses to disagree.

I take back the very low/not useful levels comment (I hadn't looked at the graph yet and admit they are at useful blue levels), the levels of blue the veros put out is useful, but still considerably less than ideal imho.
 
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SOMEBEECH

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Running x2 1ks Led advise...needed.
Dont wanna here 6 grand.'
Did see Greengenes707 challenge.
Wanna do like a 3x3 vegg area,doing scrogs,now with 1ks
Well mainly.. I just Wanna try one out.
 

PSUAGRO.

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Running x2 1ks Led advise...needed.
Dont wanna here 6 grand.'
Did see Greengenes707 challenge.
Wanna do like a 3x3 vegg area,doing scrogs,now with 1ks
Well mainly.. I just Wanna try one out.
How about 5 grand??:wink:............the only true & documented pre-built 1k swap is the at600 , with GG's code(ATLGR27) it's down to $2100 for now.

OR

get your hands dirty and DIY with cxa/vero cobs
 

SOMEBEECH

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How about 5 grand??:wink:............the only true & documented pre-built 1k swap is the at600 , with GG's code(ATLGR27) it's down to $2100 for now.

OR

get your hands dirty and DIY with cxa/vero cobs
Plenty of time and would find it,somewhat interesting.Did HVAC for 25 yrs.
 

nomofatum

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Plenty of time and would find it,somewhat interesting.Did HVAC for 25 yrs.
You aren't getting many good answers because you are too vague and your first post took a minute to decrypt. Come on you know better tell us what you actually want.
 

SOMEBEECH

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3x3 one plant DWC scrog is my plan.
Area51 thro somtin out there 500 -600 hundo...I know i need a lot of knowlede
on it,,, know notta damn thing.And lol somthing bout a Cob thats all I Fucking know bro.
 
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