The myth of amber trics!!

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Rattmannn

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I have grown over 17 strains. The two I use now and forever are the dankest I have found. Sorry but will keep them to myself for no one has them and all love them more than I can say.
I used to wait and wait and wait for the so called "Amber trics" and well most of the strains I have grown baring about 4 of them don't amber. The two I have never amber and finish in 50 days. Don't wait for amber in other words. Watch the Calyxis or however the word is spelled. When the white hairs pull into the little pods and they are mostly gone the swelling of your buds will happen in 1 to two weeks and be done and well as I said never amber. If I waited for amber my ladies would be over done period. So just to make it clear, amber is not the way to gauge harvest times. Listen or don't but if you have one of the new strains, and most are unlike the old ones, don't wait when you see the signs and not the amber. You will wait till they are garbage and miss the best of the best.... Good luck..

My advice is not what others will aggree with but I have no reason to make it up. And for the naysayers I know exactly what I am doing. Hydro is my bag baby so you know but dirt or soiless nothing will change the outcome..
 
RM3

RM3

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I breed for a rare early amber trait and most of my strains get amber in week 4~5 and are 9~10 week strains. It is not the couchlock amber but rather it is the trippy amber.

So I have to agree that you can not make a blanket statement that is true for all strains
 
Smokedporkchop

Smokedporkchop

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I find the whole Amber Theory to be somewhat applicable and legitimate when growing Indica/Kush and the mixes dominated by this type Aka Boutique indoor weed. The typically grown types you find to be most common now for the mass and most medical patients. Most but not all of these will be best when the trichomes as others noted have displayed their fullest maturity and peak of potency and most signal this with amber trichomes.

When you step into the Sativa side of the family and mixes dominated by these types you will find many that will never display amber trichomes. Cloudy yes but never amber and then there are those that stay clear and shine even after 17weeks of flowering.

This plant family is as diverse as the human family and when all said and done no blanketed statement can be applied to the plant in general. Only the types and varieties known first handed can be truly spoken for.. It is like Pokemon, you cant call em all let alone catch all of them.
 
Silky Shagsalot

Silky Shagsalot

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Rattmannn said:
Sorry but will keep them to myself for no one has them and all love them more than I can say.
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ahhh, reminds me of toohigh, lol... "i've got the real deal bubba cut, and i won't share it with anyone!" i never understood why folks choose to hoard something that others could enjoy. i guess it's an ego thing. as for amber trichs, i think it's a personal pref. thing. if they don't show up by a certain time, i think most know better than to wait forever...
 
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churchhaze

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I look at the trichomes, but do not base my decision on trich color alone, nor do I rely on calyx swelling and pistils receding, although I think that one is a better sign.

For a new strain, during the harvest window, I usually chop 1 small bud (about 4 bowlsworth) every day, let it dry for 3-4 days, then quick dry the rest and smoke it. Then it's usually a bit more obvious associating the looks to how ripe it is.

That's also how I determine how ripe fruits are. Try them all and associate looks with taste/squishiness. Orange raspberries are not done yet, but dark red ones are overripe imo. Bananas are starchy when green, sweat and perfect texture when yellow, but rotting when they have spots. Weed is the same.
 
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PhlipMode

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So if your cutting buds, drying them to see the ripeness dose that mean your not pre-flushing your girls?
 
MightyMike530

MightyMike530

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RM3 said:
I breed for a rare early amber trait and most of my strains get amber in week 4~5 and are 9~10 week strains. It is not the couchlock amber but rather it is the trippy amber.

So I have to agree that you can not make a blanket statement that is true for all strains
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When you test your early amber strains do you see higher than "average" concentrations of THC-v? What makes your early amber trippy versus what makes the late amber couch lock, or is it simply the degradation of THC?
 
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deadgro

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Overall good point. Sativa doms generally don't amber, and my buyers like the high, they just want to get fucked up. But the indicas for personal use I let get golden to mellow things out.

It seems clear from continuing studies that the characteristic high is derived from a specific balance of the various cannabinoids. While strains tend to have a general ratio, percentages vary greatly from one plant and even one bud to the next. This is, unfortunately, why bud itself is not a reliable medicine.
 
hydroMD

hydroMD

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Rattmannn said:
I have grown over 17 strains. The two I use now and forever are the dankest I have found. Sorry but will keep them to myself for no one has them and all love them more than I can say.
I used to wait and wait and wait for the so called "Amber trics" and well most of the strains I have grown baring about 4 of them don't amber. The two I have never amber and finish in 50 days. Don't wait for amber in other words. Watch the Calyxis or however the word is spelled. When the white hairs pull into the little pods and they are mostly gone the swelling of your buds will happen in 1 to two weeks and be done and well as I said never amber. If I waited for amber my ladies would be over done period. So just to make it clear, amber is not the way to gauge harvest times. Listen or don't but if you have one of the new strains, and most are unlike the old ones, don't wait when you see the signs and not the amber. You will wait till they are garbage and miss the best of the best.... Good luck..

My advice is not what others will aggree with but I have no reason to make it up. And for the naysayers I know exactly what I am doing. Hydro is my bag baby so you know but dirt or soiless nothing will change the outcome..
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It is no myth that degraded thc expresses characteristics in a high that is preferable to some smokers.

Maybe it will take you 18 strains to realise there are different stokes for different folk.
 
WeedFreak78

WeedFreak78

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I've had a 2 plants who's pistils receded and still were fattening up, but never turned amber, big bang auto was one i can remember, i let her go, and go, and go, weeks past what the breeder recommended,maybe something to do with the auto traits? It still ended up with a very "UP" sativa like high, probably could have let it keep going. You need to look at the overall plant, no one factor is going to tell you it's done.

churchhaze said:
Bananas are starchy when green, sweat and perfect texture when yellow, but rotting when they have spots.
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Your one of those people huh..lol. Bananas are ripe when they get the mottled spotting, i personally like them when they get fully brown and you can squeeze it out of the peel...and it's got a taste of fermentation..yum! Serious....
 
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JointOperation

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Rattmannn said:
I have grown over 17 strains. The two I use now and forever are the dankest I have found. Sorry but will keep them to myself for no one has them and all love them more than I can say.
I used to wait and wait and wait for the so called "Amber trics" and well most of the strains I have grown baring about 4 of them don't amber. The two I have never amber and finish in 50 days. Don't wait for amber in other words. Watch the Calyxis or however the word is spelled. When the white hairs pull into the little pods and they are mostly gone the swelling of your buds will happen in 1 to two weeks and be done and well as I said never amber. If I waited for amber my ladies would be over done period. So just to make it clear, amber is not the way to gauge harvest times. Listen or don't but if you have one of the new strains, and most are unlike the old ones, don't wait when you see the signs and not the amber. You will wait till they are garbage and miss the best of the best.... Good luck..

My advice is not what others will aggree with but I have no reason to make it up. And for the naysayers I know exactly what I am doing. Hydro is my bag baby so you know but dirt or soiless nothing will change the outcome..
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lol.. and the point of this is???????/

if your saying.. my advice is not what other will agree with. why even post it? to tell people you like your buds at clear and cloudy? lol

thats all personal pref.. i know dudes who only like amber and cloudy.. and dudes who prefer clear..

pull it when you want it..

but... if your growing to sell.. always pull atleast when everything has fully cloudied up.. because people will TELL THE DIFFERENCE and with the legalization/decrim/medical movement. bud has to stay top quality.. or u get pushed out of business.
 
RM3

RM3

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MightyMike530 said:
When you test your early amber strains do you see higher than "average" concentrations of THC-v? What makes your early amber trippy versus what makes the late amber couch lock, or is it simply the degradation of THC?
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There are some that say it is a sign of more THCV but I have not yet proved this? They turn red when starting to degrade
 
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