Questions about getting animals high...

[Drumfounded]

First off, I just want to make it clear that I don't do this! Sometimes my dogs will come around and bask in an exhaled hit and that's okay with me, it's by choice. Sometimes they seem intrigued by the smell and even show signs that they know what I'm doing, and they want to do the same thing. I've never told them to go lay down or stay away if they come around sniffing the bowl/blunt/bong whatever.

With that being said, I have friends that will directly blow hits to their pets or even go as far to grab their dog by the jowls and force them to take a hit so to speak. I don't like this, I feel that the animal should have a choice. This is why I don't persuade my dogs either way. Sometimes they seem interested, sometimes they dont.

The reason I'm asking -- I recently became the proud owner of a beautiful 8-yr-old ball python. A good friend is moving out of state and cannot take her with him.

My friend informs me that she has been attacked by her feeder rats and because of this, he gets the rat super high before the feeding. He gave me very specific instructions to tape of all the vent holes in the box that the rat is put into upon purchase. He says to leave one hole open, stick a straw through it and then proceed to smoke as I usually would, but blow all my hits into the box. He even says to waste a few hits by not actually inhaling them, so that the rat gets stupid stoned.

Today, I did just this, and I have to say, I feel like a horrible human. The rat didn't seem to suffer any sort of panic or trouble breathing or anything but c'mon... it just doesn't seem right to me. The rat didn't have a choice. The rat is going to die anyways, so I felt a little better looking at it from that angle. I was just wondering if anyone had any insight, whether personal experience or scientific knowledge, as to how this is affecting the rat. Is this totally inhumane, or am I actually making his/her death easier?

Maybe I'm just over thinking it, I am pretty stoned. Hopefully somebody out there has some information on whether this is okay or not.

 

[kimoolos]

First off, I just want to make it clear that I don't do this! Sometimes my dogs will come around and bask in an exhaled hit and that's okay with me, it's by choice. Sometimes they seem intrigued by the smell and even show signs that they know what I'm doing, and they want to do the same thing. I've never told them to go lay down or stay away if they come around sniffing the bowl/blunt/bong whatever.

With that being said, I have friends that will directly blow hits to their pets or even go as far to grab their dog by the jowls and force them to take a hit so to speak. I don't like this, I feel that the animal should have a choice. This is why I don't persuade my dogs either way. Sometimes they seem interested, sometimes they dont.

The reason I'm asking -- I recently became the proud owner of a beautiful 8-yr-old ball python. A good friend is moving out of state and cannot take her with him.

My friend informs me that she has been attacked by her feeder rats and because of this, he gets the rat super high before the feeding. He gave me very specific instructions to tape of all the vent holes in the box that the rat is put into upon purchase. He says to leave one hole open, stick a straw through it and then proceed to smoke as I usually would, but blow all my hits into the box. He even says to waste a few hits by not actually inhaling them, so that the rat gets stupid stoned.

Today, I did just this, and I have to say, I feel like a horrible human. The rat didn't seem to suffer any sort of panic or trouble breathing or anything but c'mon... it just doesn't seem right to me. The rat didn't have a choice. The rat is going to die anyways, so I felt a little better looking at it from that angle. I was just wondering if anyone had any insight, whether personal experience or scientific knowledge, as to how this is affecting the rat. Is this totally inhumane, or am I actually making his/her death easier?

Maybe I'm just over thinking it, I am pretty stoned. Hopefully somebody out there has some information on whether this is okay or not.

I'm sure we all think about it and many have gotten their pets stoned, but it's just not a good idea. Yeah, it's pretty hard to "overdose" on cannabis but there have been dogs that have died from eating wayyy to many pot brownies. They just metabolize it differently and have personally seen a dog that ingested some shake and looked like he had a stroke. Whether it be rat, rabbit, dog or cat there's just no real reason to give them any. That being said the veterinary community is starting to explore the idea of using cannabis as medicine for animals with debilitating disease but it's not well documented yet. Was your rat "suffering" or did you make things worse? Who knows, he was probably tripping balls and didn't know a whole lot. I'd say just let our pets watch us enjoy a good toke and that's it.

 

[whitebb2727]

I would never force a pet. I had a yorkie that would follow a j around. She even snatched my bag and ran a few times.

The rat. You are feeding it to a snake. I guess it could seem cruel in one way but the other may seem humane.

 

[TheTrippyHippie]

I think animals love weed. I live on a farm and I had a black barn cat named Jazzy and shed take off and you wouldnt really see her much. But than I started toking my bong in the garage (which is always open) and when ever I take a hit or two I'll see her running and meowing and she will jump on my lap and I blow her hits. She doesnt turn her head or anything she just squints her eyes and lets me blow smoke in her face.

Than she will claw the fuck out of my leggs because she is so happy and is purring and chilling. She sometimes gets a little drool but fuck, she comes back for more every time.

 

[Jimmyjonestoo]

Here's my opinion. I've owned snakes. If it hungry it won't let a rat chew on it like that. How often are you feeding it? Secondly...the rat is the food and the snake is the pet. In my eyes that means you do what needs done to care for the pet. If the food needs to be killed or stoned first so be it. As long as the pet is happy and healthy there's no need to feel bad about what happens to it's food.

 

[redeyedfrog]

My dog ate one of my plants and could barely walk, I was horrified but my vet thought it was pretty funny. He said it wouldn't hurt her and she was extremely stoned. Gave her charcoal and she was fine the next day lol!

 

[bullwinkle60]

I've had dogs for over 25 years and everyone of them liked when I'd blow smoke in their face. With respect to the rat problem if you're worried about animal cruelty why would you keep a wild animal like a snake in a glass cage?

 

[Drumfounded]

Here's my opinion. I've owned snakes. If it hungry it won't let a rat chew on it like that. How often are you feeding it? Secondly...the rat is the food and the snake is the pet. In my eyes that means you do what needs done to care for the pet. If the food needs to be killed or stoned first so be it. As long as the pet is happy and healthy there's no need to feel bad about what happens to it's food.

That's actually part of the problem. My buddy admits to never really getting her on a feeding schedule and straight up neglecting to feed her for up to two months at a time. I'm currently trying to get her on a steady regiment and from what I've been researching, she should be eating about every ten days. I do understand that they will sometimes skip meals but I'm just trying to get as normal of a schedule as I can with her. Thanks for the reply man.

 

[Drumfounded]

I've had dogs for over 25 years and everyone of them liked when I'd blow smoke in their face. With respect to the rat problem if you're worried about animal cruelty why would you keep a wild animal like a snake in a glass cage?

As stated above, she was given to me from a buddy. I appreciate your concern but I believe she has a better home now than she has since she was a hatchling. I've also owned dogs for over twenty years and have always let them decided if they wanted a hit or not, that's wasn't the topic of my discussion necessarily. Thanks for the reply though

 

[bud nugbong]

My brother used to do that shit with my dog (blow right into her nose). she loved getting high, but I hated when he did that shit...but she would always come back and indulge with us. I thought just a blow in the direction was enough.

As far as the rat, I don't really see a problem. you are feeding it to a snake. Its going to get suffocated to death in a few seconds. Might as well give it a nice buzz before it dies

 

[Drumfounded]

My brother used to do that shit with my dog (blow right into her nose). she loved getting high, but I hated when he did that shit...but she would always come back and indulge with us. I thought just a blow in the direction was enough.

As far as the rat, I don't really see a problem. you are feeding it to a snake. Its going to get suffocated to death in a few seconds. Might as well give it a nice buzz before it dies

That's pretty much how I look at it, I just didn't know if anyone had any real proof. I feel that there has to have been studies on this subject and that it was most likely performed on rats. Did they have little heart attacks or did they eat all their almonds and broccoli and take nap?

 

[bud nugbong]

lol I know rats don't think like this, but I could picture it thinking "oh that's my dog, getting me nice and buzzed"..."wait where are you putting me, wtf is that"..."you bastard!!"

 

[Jimmyjonestoo]

Have you tried feeding it dead prey? How big is the snake? I would go every 14 days on the feedings.

 

[Drumfounded]

Have you tried feeding it dead prey? How big is the snake? I would go every 14 days on the feedings.

I haven't tried dead prey. So far, I've only fed her twice. She is approx 3 feet long and I would say, at her thickest section, she's about 3 inches around when hungry. I've read that she most likely won't go for dead prey as she's been feeding on live for 8 years. I guess it's worth a shot and would definitely eliminate my problem all together.

 

[Grow4you]

First off, I just want to make it clear that I don't do this! Sometimes my dogs will come around and bask in an exhaled hit and that's okay with me, it's by choice. Sometimes they seem intrigued by the smell and even show signs that they know what I'm doing, and they want to do the same thing. I've never told them to go lay down or stay away if they come around sniffing the bowl/blunt/bong whatever.

With that being said, I have friends that will directly blow hits to their pets or even go as far to grab their dog by the jowls and force them to take a hit so to speak. I don't like this, I feel that the animal should have a choice. This is why I don't persuade my dogs either way. Sometimes they seem interested, sometimes they dont.

The reason I'm asking -- I recently became the proud owner of a beautiful 8-yr-old ball python. A good friend is moving out of state and cannot take her with him.

My friend informs me that she has been attacked by her feeder rats and because of this, he gets the rat super high before the feeding. He gave me very specific instructions to tape of all the vent holes in the box that the rat is put into upon purchase. He says to leave one hole open, stick a straw through it and then proceed to smoke as I usually would, but blow all my hits into the box. He even says to waste a few hits by not actually inhaling them, so that the rat gets stupid stoned.

Today, I did just this, and I have to say, I feel like a horrible human. The rat didn't seem to suffer any sort of panic or trouble breathing or anything but c'mon... it just doesn't seem right to me. The rat didn't have a choice. The rat is going to die anyways, so I felt a little better looking at it from that angle. I was just wondering if anyone had any insight, whether personal experience or scientific knowledge, as to how this is affecting the rat. Is this totally inhumane, or am I actually making his/her death easier?

Maybe I'm just over thinking it, I am pretty stoned. Hopefully somebody out there has some information on whether this is okay or not.

I know nothing about snakes but I was just wondering if the rat incident where the feeder rats attack her or what not, could mice be a better solution? :/ good luck anyway hope all works out for you and your new pet!

 

[tokin_warrior]

Use a pair of tongs and tap dead rat on floor of viv till snake senses and it will strike it's instinct.....pets especially captive bred snakes should be fed dead prey from an early age

 

[rikdabrick]

My brother kept snakes for most of his life and he had a lot of them. Some were so exotic and expensive he had to finance them and some were BIG; three of them were 11'-14'. He always worried about the rats attacking his snakes so he'd hit them on the head with a screwdriver just enough to make them discombobulated and it would keep them alive but unable to attack his snakes. I couldn't watch him do it. In comparison, getting the rats high seems pretty tame and humane. I'll let him know your friend's technique. And on the note of doing damage to the rat via cannabis smoke, I can pretty much guarantee you're not doing them any physical harm (not that it matters too much since they're about to be killed and eaten), but it probably does trip their little rat brains out trying to figure out why their back pain is gone and why they feel like raiding the food dish, ha ha.

 

[harris hawk]

Dogs, cats, rats, ect can all get "high" Humane that is a question you must answer

 

[LetsGetCritical]

if I saw someone forcibly getting an animal stoned I would kick their fucking face in

 

[lushgreen]

Whenever my cat see's me packing a cone, she comes over and waits patiently. She likes to get a little high and then bask in the sun. Who am I to say no?