needthacheeba
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I'm wondering when to start counting after I flipped lights. I've heard you should wait 10 to 20 days before counting Down the days to harvest. True?
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Silky Shagsalot
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what are you counting for???
GeeTee
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I count the flowering time when I'm growing a new strain in case I like it and do run it again I'll have a log when I harvested. By doing that I can harvest the same strain later or earlier and compare on the next few runs on when it's at its best
GeeTee
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A plant isn't flowering when you flip the switch there's a Transition period. Actual flowering is just that, when the plant begins to bud and develop flowers. If you start counting at flip and go by the breeders timeline your buds won't be fully ripen
I've NEVER heard of people to start counting after the "transition". As soon as you flip, the countdown begins. If you have a 8 week strain, you flower for 56 days straight after flipping the switch and that INCLUDES flushing. Ask any experienced grower and they will tell you that.
Silky Shagsalot
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i've been growing indoors for a good 12 yrs. i consider myself fairly experienced, always learning new things. i mailny use the trichomes to tell me when to harvest, but i look at the overall plant too. when the breeder says, "flower time, 65 days," i totally ignore that. since he has mondo experience with "his," strain, and prob. a near perfect environment, you'd be luck to get those numbers. plus, whose to say when he starts counting, and even if he told you, again, his experience/environment, make a lot of difference. so if you followed his suggested flower time and harvest, it may very well not be ready, or even be over ripened. but if you pay attention to the trichomes/bud condition, you'll know pretty much exactly when to cut them down. you could use his suggested flower time as a guideline though, and start checking your trichs more often then. regardless of what the breeder says, the plant is ready when, "it," tells you so. but, if i were to use counting, i would begin at the flip.
Aviar
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im a complete noob so the numbers are nice for me trying to plan out the future but like you said they are just really simplified method of trying to let inexperienced people who have no clue as to when to harvest what the time frame should be. The plant is definitly gonna let you know and thats how these people "learn" what is the actual time frame. but they did it by actually being in tune with the plant/fruit.
I doubt I will care to count the days after a few harvest. I already find my self just ballparking the dates when I should be harvesting me next crop and the next. lol
I doubt I will care to count the days after a few harvest. I already find my self just ballparking the dates when I should be harvesting me next crop and the next. lol
panhead
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Pot plants grown indoors do have a transition period between when vegging stops & budding begins , the plant needs time because it uses different hormones during veg than it uses in bud .
If you 12/12 from clone or seed with no veg time then no transitional period will take place but if you veg it's a different story , when I veg I add 7 days for every month the plant was vegged .
Vegging a plant for a month or more & starting the 60 day count the day you go 12/12 will result in premature harvest , plenty of data out there to back up transitional periods with mj.
If you 12/12 from clone or seed with no veg time then no transitional period will take place but if you veg it's a different story , when I veg I add 7 days for every month the plant was vegged .
Vegging a plant for a month or more & starting the 60 day count the day you go 12/12 will result in premature harvest , plenty of data out there to back up transitional periods with mj.
panhead
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Im only growing a single table for personal nowdays but when i was growing 8 tables professionally i used time tables & day counts religiously, i had little dollar store chalk boards next to each table with in & out dates marked down .
Plants in 3-12 .
Plants out 5-12 .
Pistils had the perfect ratio of red to white & trichs were allways 50% amber & 50% milky .
Plants in 3-12 .
Plants out 5-12 .
Pistils had the perfect ratio of red to white & trichs were allways 50% amber & 50% milky .
Agreed that you want to cut down when you know they are ready just by looking at them. But I purchased seeds online(only 1 strain) that gave me a flower time of 63 days and it is right on point over 30 batches later. My buddies also purchased seeds(6 strains) from that same website and it is on point with ALL of the strains. No "transitioning" time, I have only ever heard of this on internet forums and never from the mouth of a professional grower.
blackforest
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Start the count the day you flip. Check the trics at 56 days and see where you are. Cut when mostly cloudy or you need some cash. Hope it works out!
Silky Shagsalot
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50% amber, really??? seems like a lot...
Quoted the wrong person bro.
Silky Shagsalot
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ooops, sorry bro, lol.... i smoked too many amber trichs.
needthacheeba
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Amazing! That helps a lot guys. Thanks to everyone on the input.
Silky Shagsalot
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i don't know anyone that can, quote "know they are ready just by looking at them." maybe can tell they are overly ready. right on point? so breeder said 63 days, and it was, "BAM!" done/harvested in 63 days, really??? i don't agree with the transitioning theory either, but some people are as convinced of it's accuracy, just as you are. so you know a group of "professional," growers, and they "all," disagree with the transitioning? man, how many pro's are we talking about? when you say professional, growing is their profession by trade? i don't know any myself. (well, some bedroom growers, that don't have jobs, and grows support them completely. and they do pretty good.) you sound like you run with a pretty exclusive crowd of growers, do tell??? seriously!
elkamino
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When you say "30 batches," are you saying you've popped seeds of the same strain 30x, and harvested perfectly-finished plants every time at 63 days?! That's amazing, both the breeder and your grow room's consistency.
If you don't mind sharing, what's this homogenous strain?
Silky: 63 days give or take a day or two. My whole point is, you don't start seeing pistils until almost week 2. So 61-65 days is a lot different than 75-79 days. When I say professional growers I mean 3 guys I know in their early 50s who have been doing this longer than I have been alive. Whenever I have questions, they have answers, and are always right. They average nearly 2lb per 1000w. They are pretty credible I'd say.
Elkamino: I bought the seed and grew it out to be a mother. I have just been taking clones from that mother since then and have done about 30 batches now. The strain is sour kush.
Elkamino: I bought the seed and grew it out to be a mother. I have just been taking clones from that mother since then and have done about 30 batches now. The strain is sour kush.