Islam can dish it out, but can't take it

[UncleBuck]

and that's an issue like 9/11, can't happen here..amirite?

muslims pulling jews from their houses in denver?

let me know when that happens.

 

[Doer]

If you are going to say anything about IS, first you have to qualify your statement with "I'm not talking about the peace loving Muslims, for which there are many, who are doing great things and are surely against IS", followed by pointing out something horrific Christians did over a century ago (without the need to qualify that statement that it wasn't ALL Christians and many were peace loving).

Get with the PC program man. sorry... BIGOT!!

ok

 

[londonfog]

If you are going to say anything about IS, first you have to qualify your statement with "I'm not talking about the peace loving Muslims, for which there are many, who are doing great things and are surely against IS", followed by pointing out something horrific Christians did over a century ago (without the need to qualify that statement that it wasn't ALL Christians and many were peace loving).

Get with the PC program man. sorry... BIGOT!!

Nothing PC about knowing the difference between ISIS and Islam

 

[Doer]

True. All and I mean ALL Christians, actually went to the Crusades Area of Conflict and Europe was left completely un-populated for almost 100 years, except for the Irish who are never as stupid to go anywhere, in the first place.

And what did this vast hoard of drooling, hate filled Christians want to do? No. Not protect the Holy Land and Jerusalem's Islamic and Christian Sacred Places from Arab War Lords, like Saladin. These guys like to burn the place down and slaughter everyone. No. That's can't be it.

Oh, no. The entire population of an entire continent went to destroy the religion of Peace. Right and Salidin was the protector of Islam.

And if we want to move on, why does a US President play moral equvilance with the Past.

I said. He is stealing the Brand from Mecca.

Salalam Allaku

More Power to him.

 

[ginwilly]

Nothing PC about knowing the difference between ISIS and Islam

Not at all.

When comparing the bad deeds of the past in the name of Christianity to the bad deeds done today in the name of Islam, do you feel a need to point out that not all Christians performed those deeds? If you do, I'm sorry I missed it.

 

[londonfog]

Not at all.

When comparing the bad deeds of the past in the name of Christianity to the bad deeds done today in the name of Islam, do you feel a need to point out that not all Christians performed those deeds? If you do, I'm sorry I missed it.

To some of these idiots that scream Islam bad, you have to remained them that every religion has/had problems. Some you even need to explain why ISIS is not true Islam...are you one of those?

 

[ginwilly]

To some of these idiots that scream Islam bad, you have to remained them that every religion has/had problems. Some you even need to explain why ISIS is not true Islam...are you one of those?

When remainding them of the past atrocities of other religions, do you feel the need to also remained them that it was only a small portion of those practicing that religion? Again, if you have done this and I missed, I apologize. You avoided that question though, how unlike you.

Cause ya know, some of these idiots...

 

[londonfog]

When remainding them of the past atrocities of other religions, do you feel the need to also remained them that it was only a small portion of those practicing that religion? Again, if you have done this and I missed, I apologize. You avoided that question though, how unlike you.

Cause ya know, some of these idiots...

I'm honestly not understanding your question. I know you are meaning to say "reminding", but even with that I'm not understanding what you are asking me ?

 

[OddBall1st]

The USA will not kill in the name of religion. It can`t. Anyone that does will have issue with us. It`s over, and the US is badass enough to say so. Obama is preventing that right now. he don`t want the after office guilt following him. Bring up the past all you want, it is over as far as the US is concerned. The last guys that claimed to be superior beings and rule the world,...are dead. The next one`s will too. They are bound, we are determined,....

 

[ginwilly]

I'm honestly not understanding your question. I know you are meaning to say "reminding", but even with that I'm not understanding what you are asking me ?

Wow, read the post of yours I quoted... I was making light of your typo without calling you out on it, I figured you were smart enough to get a chuckle, my bad.

All I'm saying is if we say bad shit is done in the name of Islam, the PC police make us qualify our statement with "but of course, most who practice Islam are not involved and it's actually a peace loving religion". If I say people did bad shit in the name of Christianity or other religion, I don't get the hand slap for not adding the qualifier as pretty much all religions are supposedly peace loving.

It's PC to make people spell out that difference for Islam only.

 

[ginwilly]

The USA will not kill in the name of religion. It can`t. Anyone that does will have issue with us. It`s over, and the US is badass enough to say so. Obama is preventing that right now. he don`t want the after office guilt following him. Bring up the past all you want, it is over as far as the US is concerned. The last guys that claimed to be superior beings and rule the world,...are dead. The next one`s will too. They are bound, we are determined,....

Religions are tarded overall imo and I would bet money that Bush or someone else invoked God as a reason for bombing terrorist. Apples to Oranges, but we can say Americans have helped made a mess of things over there without somebody yelling "it's not all Americans, some were against it". You have to do that when pointing out the shitty things done in the name of Islam.

 

[londonfog]

Wow, read the post of yours I quoted... I was making light of your typo without calling you out on it, I figured you were smart enough to get a chuckle, my bad.

All I'm saying is if we say bad shit is done in the name of Islam, the PC police make us qualify our statement with "but of course, most who practice Islam are not involved and it's actually a peace loving religion". If I say people did bad shit in the name of Christianity or other religion, I don't get the hand slap for not adding the qualifier as pretty much all religions are supposedly peace loving.

It's PC to make people spell out that difference for Islam only.

I told you I don't read after I type, but I do read what you type.
Yes we have to point out there is a difference between ISIS and Islam, and yes some people do not realize that. Do you not see all the hate Islam threads that have been started? Should it not be ISIS threads.
Please link me to threads started about Christianity and I will point out all the "We hate Islam threads". The one with the most wins. Are you game ? We also can add a wager seeing how you and I are gambling men.

 

[OddBall1st]

Religions are tarded overall imo and I would bet money that Bush or someone else invoked God as a reason for bombing terrorist. Apples to Oranges, but we can say Americans have helped made a mess of things over there without somebody yelling "it's not all Americans, some were against it". You have to do that when pointing out the shitty things done in the name of Islam.

There`s a reason for separation of religion and State. Over there right now ISIS wants a caliphate thingy that no-one over there wants either. It would mean the end of Ayatollah`s, Kings, ect., and put all under one rule. The only reason ISIS is claiming Islam is that`s the book they are play`n off of. They are Muslim but do not represent Muslim. ISIS wants to change that by having a recognized State. Should they form it, and we kill all the bad guys, we leave an Islamic State in place. We cannot change a recognized State, that`s why Germany is still Germany and Japan is still Japan. The Muslim don`t want that and the USA don`t want that either. Barak Obama has no problem with that or he would act immediately.

 

[ginwilly]

I told you I don't read after I type, but I do read what you type.
Yes we have to point out there is a difference between ISIS and Islam, and yes some people do not realize that. Do you not see all the hate Islam threads that have been started? Should it not be ISIS threads.
Please link me to threads started about Christianity and I will point out all the "We hate Islam threads". The one with the most wins. Are you game ? We also can add a wager seeing how you and I are gambling men.

Bad bet. If Christians were presently doing what Islamist were doing in the name of God we might be able to compare.

I've got one for you though. Let's count how many "but it's not all Islam" posts compared to "but it wasn't all Christians" posts.

Nobody feels the need to spell that out, yet you feel the need to spell it out for Islam. That would be known as a bias.

I'm not defending Christianity, there has been some horrific shit done in the name, I'm just saying that statement on it's own will get agreement, not a bunch of bleeding hearts bitching that I'm lumping ALL Christians together. Clear?

 

[londonfog]

There`s a reason for separation of religion and State. Over there right now ISIS wants a caliphate thingy that no-one over there wants either. It would mean the end of Ayatollah`s, Kings, ect., and put all under one rule. The only reason ISIS is claiming Islam is that`s the book they are play`n off of. They are Muslim but do not represent Muslim. ISIS wants to change that by having a recognized State. Should they form it, and we kill all the bad guys, we leave an Islamic State in place. We cannot change a recognized State, that`s why Germany is still Germany and Japan is still Japan. The Muslim don`t want that and the USA don`t want that either. Barak Obama has no problem with that or he would act immediately.

Explain and give example how you know what Obama wants

 

[londonfog]

Bad bet. If Christians were presently doing what Islamist were doing in the name of God we might be able to compare.

I've got one for you though. Let's count how many "but it's not all Islam" posts compared to "but it wasn't all Christians" posts.

Nobody feels the need to spell that out, yet you feel the need to spell it out for Islam. That would be known as a bias.

I'm not defending Christianity, there has been some horrific shit done in the name, I'm just saying that statement on it's own will get agreement, not a bunch of bleeding hearts bitching that I'm lumping ALL Christians together. Clear?

I'm sure you would not take my bet and I understand why. Too many " Hate Islam threads". I have zero problems with people hating ISIS, my problems are the ones who cannot separate Islam from ISIS.

 

[ginwilly]

There`s a reason for separation of religion and State. Over there right now ISIS wants a caliphate thingy that no-one over there wants either. It would mean the end of Ayatollah`s, Kings, ect., and put all under one rule. The only reason ISIS is claiming Islam is that`s the book they are play`n off of. They are Muslim but do not represent Muslim. ISIS wants to change that by having a recognized State. Should they form it, and we kill all the bad guys, we leave an Islamic State in place. We cannot change a recognized State, that`s why Germany is still Germany and Japan is still Japan. The Muslim don`t want that and the USA don`t want that either. Barak Obama has no problem with that or he would act immediately.

I'm not really sure what Obama thinks about it. He condemns them and drops lots of bombs on them but either he just likes to play with the military toys or he's terrible at game theory. If the goal was to defeat ISIS it would have been over months ago. The mightiest military in the world hasn't made a dent. That's unacceptable.

Disclaimer, I say this with the personal opinion that I'd rather we butt out. I'm just saying if we are going to do it, let's do it. What we are doing now is possibly the worst choice.

 

[londonfog]

I'm not really sure what Obama thinks about it. He condemns them and drops lots of bombs on them but either he just likes to play with the military toys or he's terrible at game theory. If the goal was to defeat ISIS it would have been over months ago. The mightiest military in the world hasn't made a dent. That's unacceptable.

Disclaimer, I say this with the personal opinion that I'd rather we butt out. I'm just saying if we are going to do it, let's do it. What we are doing now is possibly the worst choice.

Why do you people think it is easy to defeat ISIS ? Do you think wars are easy ?

 

[ginwilly]

I'm sure you would not take my bet and I understand why. Too many " Hate Islam threads". I have zero problems with people hating ISIS, my problems are the ones who cannot separate Islam from ISIS.

First, ISIS can't separate Islam from ISIS, that's part of the problem for the peaceful Muslims.

Second, your problems are only when it involves the religion of Islam. We are free to bash any other religion.

 

[ginwilly]

Why do you people think it is easy to defeat ISIS ? Do you think wars are easy ?

We know exactly where they are, we know exactly who they are. If we unleashed the full military force on ISIS, how long do you think it would take?

Are you surprised that we've made almost no difference? I admit that I am.