Would you vote to legal this abomination in America?

[desert dude]

You get extra points for working menage a trois into your post.

Sex goes with science because... "Science bitches!!!"

 

[whitebb2727]

Similar to humans exposed to radiation, we do not disallow these people from procreating. Genetic mutation from irritated parents could end our entire species potentially.

Irritated parents is the fallout of something catastrophic and not by choice.


The baby from three parents would be in the same boat. They had no say in their conception.


The parents and scientist are willfully screwing with something potentially dangerous.

What if the baby comes out worse and suffers all it's life?


Creating potential danger or suffering is cruel.

 

[whitebb2727]

Nature makes mistakes too.

If a person consents to a treatment then I don't care what they do.

The baby created has no say and could be worse off.

 

[desert dude]

I would agree with you normally.

Humans make mistakes. When you screw with DNA what happens when a bad mistake is made?

A disease, mutation or something of the sort that might effect me.

If I understand what is being proposed, there is no screwing with DNA in the process. All they are doing is taking normal mitochondria from a second woman and substituting it for the bad mitochondria in a fertilized egg from the first woman. It is sort of a mitochondria transplant, similar to a heart transplant.

Who doesn't like a threesome with a happy ending?

 

[desert dude]

The baby created has no say and could be worse off.

Unlike all those other babies that are currently being created.

 

[whitebb2727]

Unlike all those other babies that are currently being created.

Some people have no morals.

I'm not saying I'm against it.

I'm just saying, we as humans, have a duty to not cause harm and suffering.


Trust I know all about the trouble of conceiving. I'm all for a way for a person that want a kid to have one.

 

[Pinworm]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2015/02/03/british-parliament-is-voting-on-three-parent-babies-today-heres-how-one-baby-can-have-three-peoples-dna/

Your poll is missing a button for 'The illuminati are sending me messages through my toaster'.

 

[NoDrama]

I think the real issue is that the State has to "Authorize" people to use their own bodies as they see fit.
How does one vote against another person's rights? Can we slip down the slope and soon institute laws that require anyone aged 75 or older to report to the Soylent green factories?

 

[WeedFreak78]

So we are arguing the benefits of eugenics to the human population? I though this conversation was ended years ago...maybe just because the technology wasn't there?
Now that people have the technology to make money off it , it will be pushed as the next great thing for humanity.

NO MORE DISEASE, NO MORE GENETIC DEFECTS, ADVANCED MENTAL CAPABILITIES,SUPERIOR PHYSICAL QUALITIES, 4 ARMS, design your child how you want, THE PERFECT PERSON!

 

[AlecTheGardener]

So we are arguing the benefits of eugenics to the human population? I though this conversation was ended years ago...maybe just because the technology wasn't there?
Now that people have the technology to make money off it , it will be pushed as the next great thing for humanity.

NO MORE DISEASE, NO MORE GENETIC DEFECTS, ADVANCED MENTAL CAPABILITIES,SUPERIOR PHYSICAL QUALITIES, 4 ARMS, design your child how you want, THE PERFECT PERSON!

Eugenics:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

 

[WeedFreak78]

Eugenics:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

Inconceivable!
I get it, not really eugenics, but it's damn close. We're on the precipice of designer babies and people being able to control the future of human evolution..scary shit IMO.

 

[Rob Roy]

Your poll is missing a button for 'The illuminati are sending me messages through my toaster'.

Not yet. Televisions, computers and cell phones can be used as spy devices, maybe even microwaves.


My toaster is a wire configuration that sits over a burner and it works fine. That reminds me, think I'll toast a bagel.

 

[AlecTheGardener]

Inconceivable!
I get it, not really eugenics, but it's damn close. We're on the precipice of designer babies and people being able to control the future of human evolution..scary shit IMO.

This I can agree with, it is a bit creepy. It makes me feel uneasy, I have zero real reason for such an emotion yet though.

 

[WeedFreak78]

Not yet. Televisions, computers and cell phones can be used as spy devices, maybe even microwaves.


My toaster is a wire configuration that sits over a burner and it works fine. That reminds me, think I'll toast a bagel.

A guy i worked with brought in an old Popular Science magazine form the early 80's. In it there was an article talking about how the technology to put microscopic cameras in tv's that can see into your home was already viable, and it talked about how with the mass emergence of cable networks, using coax cable, the transfer of images back and forth between homes and outside sources was already developed and had been tested. It went on to describe how they could be operated remotely, by cable companies or anyone else that had access to the system. If this was being admitted to 20+ yrs ago..what do they have now? My best friend was just reported to the authorities by his "smart" TV when he tried to play a bootleg DVD, his system shut down and a warning came up on the screen saying something along the lines of "the proper authorities have been notified you are watching an illegal copy of copyrighted material". Big brother is watching.

 

[Rob Roy]

A guy i worked with brought in an old Popular Science magazine form the early 80's. In it there was an article talking about how the technology to put microscopic cameras in tv's that can see into your home was already viable, and it talked about how with the mass emergence of cable networks, using coax cable, the transfer of images back and forth between homes and outside sources was already developed and had been tested. It went on to describe how they could be operated remotely, by cable companies or anyone else that had access to the system. If this was being admitted to 20+ yrs ago..what do they have now? My best friend was just reported to the authorities by his "smart" TV when he tried to play a bootleg DVD, his system shut down and a warning came up on the screen saying something along the lines of "the proper authorities have been notified you are watching an illegal copy of copyrighted material". Big brother is watching.

Wait until they ramp up the control of the internet, (they're working on it) then things will get very interesting.

 

[insidagain]

i vote no.

there already is a movie (Never Let Me Go) on with bit of a creepy spin:

On-screen captions explain that a medical breakthrough in 1952 has permitted the human lifespan to be extended beyond 100 years. This cuts to a young man (Andrew Garfield) lying on an operating table and smiling at a woman observing from the other side of the glass window. The woman is 28-year-old Kathy H (Carey Mulligan), the narrator. She reminisces about her childhood at a boarding school called Hailsham, as well as her adult life after leaving the school. The first act of the film depicts the young Kathy (Izzy Meikle-Small), along with her friends Tommy (Charlie Rowe) and Ruth (Ella Purnell), spending their childhood at Hailsham in the late 1970s. The school is strange; students are encouraged to create artwork instead of learning science and mathematics normal for school children. Their best work gets into "the Gallery" run by a mysterious woman known only as Madame (Nathalie Richard). One day, a new teacher, Miss Lucy (Sally Hawkins) quietly informs the students of their nature: they exist only as organ donors for transplants, and will die - or, rather, "complete" - in their early adulthood. She is shortly afterward sacked by the headmistress (Charlotte Rampling) for telling this to the students. As time passes, Kathy and Tommy develop feelings for one another, but Tommy falls into a relationship with Ruth.

In the second act of the film, the three friends, now 18, are rehoused in cottages on a farm. They are permitted to leave the grounds on day trips, but are still resigned to their eventual fate. At the farm, they meet former pupils of other schools. Two of these students see a woman in a nearby town whom they believe to be a "possible" for Ruth - the person she was cloned from. Ruth is ecstatic at the prospect, but when she, Kathy, Tommy, and the other students travel to the coast to re-examine the woman, it turns out there is very little resemblance. Ruth, bitter and disillusioned, rages that all donors are "modelled on trash", meaning that they are cloned from the people lowest in society, such as prostitutes and criminals.

From the others, Kathy and her friends hear rumors of the possibility of "deferral" – a temporary reprieve from organ donation for donors who are in love and can somehow prove it. Tommy becomes convinced that the Gallery at Hailsham was intended to look into their souls and that artwork sent to the Gallery will be able to verify true love. The relationship between Tommy and Ruth becomes sexual, putting a strain on Kathy's friendships with the two. Kathy, feeling the need to distance herself, leaves the cottages to become a "carer" – a clone who is given a temporary reprieve from donation to do the job of supporting and comforting donors. Tommy and Ruth break up shortly before Kathy leaves.

In the third and final act of the film, ten years later, Kathy is working as a carer and has not seen Ruth or Tommy since the cottages. While working as a carer, Kathy happens to meet Ruth again, who is frail after two donations. They find Tommy, who is also weakened, and the three of them drive to the sea at Ruth's request. There, Ruth asks for their forgiveness for keeping them apart. She admits she has always known that Kathy and Tommy were meant to be together; Ruth was with Tommy because she was jealous of his closeness to Kathy and afraid to be "left alone". She claims she has found a means to put things right: she has found Madame's address and believes it is she who gives out the deferrals to couples in love. Though reluctant at first, Kathy eventually agrees to give it a try. Shortly afterward, Ruth dies on the operating table during her third donation.

Kathy and Tommy finally begin a relationship, though Tommy is weak from his donations. Tommy explains to Kathy that he has been creating art as an adult in the hope that it will convince Madame to give them a deferral. He and Kathy drive to visit Madame, who lives with the now-retired headmistress of Hailsham. The two teachers sympathetically tell them that there have never been any such deferrals. They also explain that the purpose of the Gallery was not to look into their souls, but to determine if they had souls at all. Hailsham had been, in fact, the last remaining place to consider the ethical implications of the donor programme. After Kathy and Tommy have left, Tommy asks Kathy to stop the car to let him out and breaks down in a fit of rage and frustration. Kathy consoles him and the two cry in each other's arms. The movie returns to the first shot: Tommy is being anaesthetised on the operating table for what would be his last organ donation, while looking and smiling at Kathy who is standing on the other side of the glass window.

The film ends with Kathy still living, but knowing that her organ donations will begin in one month.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Let_Me_Go_(2010_film)

How bout giving a spoiler alert.

 

[WeedFreak78]

Wait until they ramp up the control of the internet, (they're working on it) then things will get very interesting.

The powers that be have realized, like all the people of power throughout history, that free and easy access to information is the biggest hurdle to them staying in power. Control information and you control the world.

 

[Doer]

Unlike all those other babies that are currently being created.

The Plight of Birth is real for us all.

 

[Doer]

Some people have no morals.

I'm not saying I'm against it.

I'm just saying, we as humans, have a duty to not cause harm and suffering.


Trust I know all about the trouble of conceiving. I'm all for a way for a person that want a kid to have one.

There is no duty like that. It is actually quite the opposite if we just look around.

 

[whitebb2727]

There is no duty like that. It is actually quite the opposite if we just look around.

We all know its a dog eat dog world. That doesn't mean we should not try to minimize suffering and harm.