Oklahoma votes to ban AP US history citing "it fails to teach American exceptionalism"...

Padawanbater2

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"An Oklahoma legislative committee overwhelmingly voted to ban Advanced Placement U.S. History class, persuaded by the argument that it only teaches students “what is bad about America.” Other lawmakers are seeking a court ruling that would effectively prohibit the teaching of all AP courses in public schools.

Oklahoma Rep. Dan Fisher (R) has introduced “emergency” legislation “prohibiting the expenditure of funds on the Advanced Placement United States History course.” Fisher is part of a group called the “Black Robe Regiment” which argues “the church and God himself has been under assault, marginalized, and diminished by the progressives and secularists.” The group attacks the “false wall of separation of church and state.” The Black Robe Regiment claims that a “growing tide of special interest groups indoctrinating our youth at the exclusion of the Christian perspective.”

Fisher said the Advanced Placement history class fails to teach “American exceptionalism.” The bill passed the Oklahoma House Education committee on Monday on a vote of 11-4. You can read the actual course description for the course here.

For other lawmakers, however, Fisher is thinking too small. Oklahoma Rep. Sally Kern (R) claims that all “AP courses violate the legislation approved last year that repealed Common Core.” She has asked the Oklahoma Attorney General to issue a ruling. Kern argues that “AP courses are similar to Common Core, in that they could be construed as an attempt to impose a national curriculum on American schools.”

Advanced Placement courses are actually developed by a private group, the College Board, and are not required of any student or high school. They are the primary way that student can earn college credit in high school. Taking advanced placement course can save students money and are generally seen as a prerequisite to admission to elite colleges. A representative from the College Board called the claims by Fisher and others “mythology and not true.”

In August last year, the Republican National Committee blasted the Advanced Placement U.S. History test, claiming it “deliberately distorts and/or edits out important historical events.” The RNC said a new framework for the exam “reflects a radically revisionist view of American history that emphasizes negative aspects of our nation’s history while omitting or minimizing positive aspects.” The College Board countered that the framework had not been changed since 2012.

Efforts by conservative school board members in Colorado to make the Advanced Placement U.S. History course “more patriotic,” prompted a walk-out by students. Under the changes proposed in Colorado “students would only be taught lessons depicting American heritage in a positive light, and effectively ban any material that could lead to dissent.” In South Carolina conservatives asked the College Board to exclude any material with an “ideological bias,” including evolution. Similar efforts are underway in Georgia and North Carolina."

http://thinkprogress.org/education/2015/02/17/3623683/oklahoma-lawmakers-vote-overwhleming-ban-advanced-placement-history-class/


Well done Oklahoma, well done...

 

overgrowem

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Did they ask their tribes what they think about Am. exceptionalism.... My bad, no need, they think the Trail of Tears was a shinning example of this exceptionalism...
 
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Jimdamick

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Let them teach what they want to their children. Not my problem, but it might be one for their kids when they have to pass standardized tests to get into college. Maybe this should be called selective breeding, and it should work according to their plan, if that plan is develop idiots, and future Republicans. That is a Red state, right?
 

Doer

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"An Oklahoma legislative committee overwhelmingly voted to ban Advanced Placement U.S. History class, persuaded by the argument that it only teaches students “what is bad about America.” Other lawmakers are seeking a court ruling that would effectively prohibit the teaching of all AP courses in public schools.

Oklahoma Rep. Dan Fisher (R) has introduced “emergency” legislation “prohibiting the expenditure of funds on the Advanced Placement United States History course.” Fisher is part of a group called the “Black Robe Regiment” which argues “the church and God himself has been under assault, marginalized, and diminished by the progressives and secularists.” The group attacks the “false wall of separation of church and state.” The Black Robe Regiment claims that a “growing tide of special interest groups indoctrinating our youth at the exclusion of the Christian perspective.”

Fisher said the Advanced Placement history class fails to teach “American exceptionalism.” The bill passed the Oklahoma House Education committee on Monday on a vote of 11-4. You can read the actual course description for the course here.

For other lawmakers, however, Fisher is thinking too small. Oklahoma Rep. Sally Kern (R) claims that all “AP courses violate the legislation approved last year that repealed Common Core.” She has asked the Oklahoma Attorney General to issue a ruling. Kern argues that “AP courses are similar to Common Core, in that they could be construed as an attempt to impose a national curriculum on American schools.”

Advanced Placement courses are actually developed by a private group, the College Board, and are not required of any student or high school. They are the primary way that student can earn college credit in high school. Taking advanced placement course can save students money and are generally seen as a prerequisite to admission to elite colleges. A representative from the College Board called the claims by Fisher and others “mythology and not true.”

In August last year, the Republican National Committee blasted the Advanced Placement U.S. History test, claiming it “deliberately distorts and/or edits out important historical events.” The RNC said a new framework for the exam “reflects a radically revisionist view of American history that emphasizes negative aspects of our nation’s history while omitting or minimizing positive aspects.” The College Board countered that the framework had not been changed since 2012.

Efforts by conservative school board members in Colorado to make the Advanced Placement U.S. History course “more patriotic,” prompted a walk-out by students. Under the changes proposed in Colorado “students would only be taught lessons depicting American heritage in a positive light, and effectively ban any material that could lead to dissent.” In South Carolina conservatives asked the College Board to exclude any material with an “ideological bias,” including evolution. Similar efforts are underway in Georgia and North Carolina."

http://thinkprogress.org/education/2015/02/17/3623683/oklahoma-lawmakers-vote-overwhleming-ban-advanced-placement-history-class/


Well done Oklahoma, well done...

It is all lies that cannot be taught as history. It is Ideology.
 

Padawanbater2

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It is all lies that cannot be taught as history. It is Ideology.
That's what the Oklahoma board of education is trying to do, teach their batshit ideology consisting of the 10 commandments and banning anything that sheds a negative light on anything American. That means no Native American genocide, no slave trade, no Vietnam, etc.

Lets be clear here, we all know the game. These conservative idiots are attempting to ban anything secular that might contradict the bullshit they teach their kids, like Jesus was American and Santa Clause is white.. They don't give a shit about the rest of the kids in the state who don't believe that nonsense, nor do they care that although Oklahoma will lower their standards to fit their insane narrative, colleges across the country won't, and Oklahoma kids will be left behind in that sense.

This is just another example of how organized religion actively causes harm


Oklahoma Bill Banning AP US History Would Make Students Study Ten Commandments, 3 Speeches By Reagan

http://thinkprogress.org/education/2015/02/18/3624062/oklahoma-bill-banning-ap-us-history-make-students-study-ten-commandments-3-speeches-reagan/
 

Doer

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You just make yourself look stupid when you say things like this

FYI

You read an article posted about how Oklahoma wants to make their school system more religious and less progressive and you conclude from that that "Progressive is an organized religion"?

Can you explain that?
Where you sit in the ivory tower only your Progressive Gods make sense.

It is an organized Ideology, no different from any religion. It can be soundly debunked as having no proof whatsoever. It has it's shrill adherents that poise personal violence of thought, as we see, if anyone disagrees. It is all about evangelizing one point of view, that dis-allows other points of view. It is hate filled while it pretends to be about Peace. It is divisive while it pretends to be inclusive.

 
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NoDrama

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But gosh, golly, wasn't the person who wants this law a Republican? Doesn't that mean that all republicans want this law? Doesn't it also mean that all republicans are this stupid?

I'm pretty sure that's what it means.

But its no better than knowing that all progressives believe that if you send 5,000 Marines to Guam, it might capsize the entire island. Cuz islands float right? Which means that all progressives are also, stupid. So we have stupid on this side of the fence, and moron on the other. Who will lead these stupid morons to victory?

Democrat/Republican = stupid/moron
 

UncleBuck

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There's always been a joke from around these parts:

When an Aggie moves from Texas to Oklahoma, he raises the IQ of both states.
texans are really fucking dumb. really, really fucking dumb.

1 in 3 of the people in your state believe that humans and dinosaurs co-existed.

for fuck sake, how fucking stupid are you texans?
 

UncleBuck

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Where you sit in the ivory tower only your Progressive Gods make sense.

It is an organized Ideology, no different from any religion. It can be soundly debunked as having no proof whatsoever. It has it's shrill adherents that poise personal violence of thought, as we see, if anyone disagrees. It is all about evangelizing one point of view, that dis-allows other points of view. It is hate filled while it pretends to be about Peace. It is divisive while it pretends to be inclusive.

doer, you are off your fucking rocker. go start another muslim thread.
 

UncleBuck

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But gosh, golly, wasn't the person who wants this law a Republican? Doesn't that mean that all republicans want this law? Doesn't it also mean that all republicans are this stupid?

I'm pretty sure that's what it means.

But its no better than knowing that all progressives believe that if you send 5,000 Marines to Guam, it might capsize the entire island. Cuz islands float right? Which means that all progressives are also, stupid. So we have stupid on this side of the fence, and moron on the other. Who will lead these stupid morons to victory?

Democrat/Republican = stupid/moron
already established that he was making a joke you dumb racist.
 

Doer

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But gosh, golly, wasn't the person who wants this law a Republican? Doesn't that mean that all republicans want this law? Doesn't it also mean that all republicans are this stupid?

I'm pretty sure that's what it means.

But its no better than knowing that all progressives believe that if you send 5,000 Marines to Guam, it might capsize the entire island. Cuz islands float right? Which means that all progressives are also, stupid. So we have stupid on this side of the fence, and moron on the other. Who will lead these stupid morons to victory?

Democrat/Republican = stupid/moron
Synonyms for stupid. Wooohooo. I like that. :)
 

Doer

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So, tell us, if you think the organized Ideology of Conservative is more or less Stupid than Progressive.

Ah HA>! Trick question. Synonyms. Remember. :)
 
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