Oklahoma votes to ban AP US history citing "it fails to teach American exceptionalism"...

overgrowem

overgrowem

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see4 said:
Let me try to understand you correctly here... you lay down some insults, then someone does it back to you, and you conclude the conversation with, "still just petty insults of your kind." - Do I have that about right?

Sigh...
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Does it all the time. He thinks it is a valid debate strategy.Probably learned it from Hannity
 
nitro harley

nitro harley

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UncleBuck said:
nitro.

i am saying that you have been parroting bill o-reilly verbatim for years now.

this should have been made obvious to you when i said "you've been parroting his 'free shit' mantra for years now" in response to your idiotic attempt to distance yourself from bill o'reilly.

you are so stupid and unoriginal that you have to parrot bill o'reilly for years on end.

if i had to guess, i would say your IQ is in the low 80s.
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Buck.

If you have been following along you would of noticed that Bill was losing me with his war on pot that is slowly being legalized. And your wild guess on my IQ is just that, a guess. Some stuff I agree with Bill and some stuff he spews out I don't agree with. Its that simple. The free shit in reality is not free because I am on the paying end of the free shit.

And I do not know what my IQ is all I know is that I have this certificate that said I was smarter than hundreds of students at a trade school I went to because I graduated at the top of my class. And that was not near the top it was the top. So the chance of me being under 80 is slim.

And I noticed that you are not that great of a speller. just so you know.
 
UncleBuck

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nitro harley said:
Buck.

If you have been following along you would of noticed that Bill was losing me with his war on pot that is slowly being legalized. And your wild guess on my IQ is just that, a guess. Some stuff I agree with Bill and some stuff he spews out I don't agree with. Its that simple. The free shit in reality is not free because I am on the paying end of the free shit.

And I do not know what my IQ is all I know is that I have this certificate that said I was smarter than hundreds of students at a trade school I went to because I graduated at the top of my class. And that was not near the top it was the top. So the chance of me being under 80 is slim.

And I noticed that you are not that great of a speller. just so you know.
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nitro.

your pathetic attempts at distancing yourself from bill o'reilly are pathetic. you are still parroting his years old "free shit" pants-pooping tantrum.

graduating at the top of a remedial class means nothing. with your bitter hatred for mexicans, gays, muslims, and blacks, i can only conclude that you are a very dimwitted racist, and that gruber would laugh in your face if you tried to tell him you were smart in any way shape or form.

go make sure your 400 pound whale wife has enough seafood to eat. she's probably very hungry by now.
 
nitro harley

nitro harley

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UncleBuck said:
nitro.

your pathetic attempts at distancing yourself from bill o'reilly are pathetic. you are still parroting his years old "free shit" pants-pooping tantrum.

graduating at the top of a remedial class means nothing. with your bitter hatred for mexicans, gays, muslims, and blacks, i can only conclude that you are a very dimwitted racist, and that gruber would laugh in your face if you tried to tell him you were smart in any way shape or form.

go make sure your 400 pound whale wife has enough seafood to eat. she's probably very hungry by now.
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Buck.

Do you think that what you just wrote makes you sound smart? You make up a lot of lies for a smart guy wannabe.
 
UncleBuck

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nitro harley said:
Buck.

Do you think that what you just wrote makes you sound smart? You make up a lot of lies for a smart guy wannabe.
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what did i lie about?

we've seen the pictures of your whale wife.

we've seen your bitter racist hatred for gays, muslims, mexicans, and blacks.

you're obviously parroting bill o'reilly and have been for several years now.

you tell me.
 
Red1966

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Padawanbater2 said:
"An Oklahoma legislative committee overwhelmingly voted to ban Advanced Placement U.S. History class, persuaded by the argument that it only teaches students “what is bad about America.” Other lawmakers are seeking a court ruling that would effectively prohibit the teaching of all AP courses in public schools.

Oklahoma Rep. Dan Fisher (R) has introduced “emergency” legislation “prohibiting the expenditure of funds on the Advanced Placement United States History course.” Fisher is part of a group called the “Black Robe Regiment” which argues “the church and God himself has been under assault, marginalized, and diminished by the progressives and secularists.” The group attacks the “false wall of separation of church and state.” The Black Robe Regiment claims that a “growing tide of special interest groups indoctrinating our youth at the exclusion of the Christian perspective.”

Fisher said the Advanced Placement history class fails to teach “American exceptionalism.” The bill passed the Oklahoma House Education committee on Monday on a vote of 11-4. You can read the actual course description for the course here.

For other lawmakers, however, Fisher is thinking too small. Oklahoma Rep. Sally Kern (R) claims that all “AP courses violate the legislation approved last year that repealed Common Core.” She has asked the Oklahoma Attorney General to issue a ruling. Kern argues that “AP courses are similar to Common Core, in that they could be construed as an attempt to impose a national curriculum on American schools.”

Advanced Placement courses are actually developed by a private group, the College Board, and are not required of any student or high school. They are the primary way that student can earn college credit in high school. Taking advanced placement course can save students money and are generally seen as a prerequisite to admission to elite colleges. A representative from the College Board called the claims by Fisher and others “mythology and not true.”

In August last year, the Republican National Committee blasted the Advanced Placement U.S. History test, claiming it “deliberately distorts and/or edits out important historical events.” The RNC said a new framework for the exam “reflects a radically revisionist view of American history that emphasizes negative aspects of our nation’s history while omitting or minimizing positive aspects.” The College Board countered that the framework had not been changed since 2012.

Efforts by conservative school board members in Colorado to make the Advanced Placement U.S. History course “more patriotic,” prompted a walk-out by students. Under the changes proposed in Colorado “students would only be taught lessons depicting American heritage in a positive light, and effectively ban any material that could lead to dissent.” In South Carolina conservatives asked the College Board to exclude any material with an “ideological bias,” including evolution. Similar efforts are underway in Georgia and North Carolina."

http://thinkprogress.org/education/2015/02/17/3623683/oklahoma-lawmakers-vote-overwhleming-ban-advanced-placement-history-class/


Well done Oklahoma, well done...

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Odd that most of these "quotes" don't identify the speaker. Could it be that Thinkprogress is putting words into the mouths of others? I note a feeble attempt to portray a single curiculum as all nistory classes.
 
nitro harley

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UncleBuck said:
what did i lie about?

we've seen the pictures of your whale wife.

we've seen your bitter racist hatred for gays, muslims, mexicans, and blacks.

you're obviously parroting bill o'reilly and have been for several years now.

you tell me.
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Buck.

It wouldn't do any good because your just to fucking dumb. And create fantasy after fantasy. Smart people don't make up shit and lie in nearly every post. Oh and one more thing I would never post a picture of a family member on this site. You are dumb enough to post your picture, you should of never done that. imo
 
Red1966

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Padawanbater2 said:
You just make yourself look stupid when you say things like this

FYI

You read an article posted about how Oklahoma wants to make their school system more religious and less progressive and you conclude from that that "Progressive is an organized religion"?

Can you explain that?
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Why do you assume his statement was concluded from your post? It clearly wasn't.
 
Red1966

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Padawanbater2 said:
You're taking the things you disagree with about progressivism, then generalizing an entire group of people based on your misconceptions

Progressive: Favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, especially in political matters: a progressive mayor.

The reality is, the label 'progressive' is purposefully ambiguous because it incompasses a wide range of people, just like 'atheist', who all don't share the exact same ideas, they share one idea. As with any ideology that gets popular enough, it shouldn't be surprising to find a few examples of extremism, but it's incorrect to paint the whole group the same color based on that

Now, it's something entirely different to oppose the actual ideology of progress... make the things that are shitty now, not so shitty tomorrow.. I can't imagine what logical justification one could come up with to oppose that..



You're telling me you can't find one difference between Progressivism and Islam or Christianity?



How can "favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, especially in political matters" be debunked exactly? Again, sounds like you're generalizing everybody based on the most extreme members..



Name one organization with more than 100 members that doesn't. Perhaps that's why it's incorrect to judge the group based on those one or two guys



I'm guessing you're referring to things like scientific theories or something that might contradict someones religious ideology. Advocating for those things is reality, it's not "my position", I just happen to hold the same position, too. So take evolution for example, I'm sure you would say that for someone to say that evolution should be taught in school and creationism shouldn't because there is no valid scientific evidence for it (same concept with climate change, sex education, US history, etc.), then that person is "evangelizing one point of view, that dis-allows other points of view", right? Well what about the other parent that says the same thing about Islam? What about the other guy that wants to teach his alternative theory to mathematics? We should just teach them all, right? To be fair and show everybody's point of view, right?

No, not right. That's not how education works. We teach what we know and can prove and is useful. Teaching religion has it's place in schools, but in the history and maybe philosophy classrooms but not the science classrooms



Could you be specific and provide an example?
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Wow, so many statements distorted in one post.
 
AlecTheGardener

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"The median age for Mr. O'Reilly's audience reached a new high, 72.1."

I thought we were supposed to become more wise and intelligent as we aged. Bill O' Rilley is an entertainer, I am amazed anyone thinks his rhetoric isn't just a grab at increased ratings.
 
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