Trouble shooting

[Rotorwash22]

So here are my girls... I've got two autos on an Ebb and Flow tray and one photo in a dwc bucket.
I maintain the RH between 40-60% depending on how much I'm in and out of my room. I try to keep the PH between 5.5-6.5, however it's rising to 7 daily. I've noticed some wilting and yellowing since I moved the girls out of the germination tray. I'm only running 1/4 nutes and this is day 3, so I don't think that's the issue. I noticed that my water levels were lower than my oasis plug so ive adjust that so that the plug is about 1/4" into the flood line on my tray, and right at the top of the water line on my dwc.

Do you think they girls were just thirsty? I don't think its a light issue, my DWC is under two CFLs and the flood tray is under a 600w hps dimmed down 50%.

Also, my larger girl is 3 weeks old and the others are 2 weeks from the day I started germination

Any guidance or suggestions are appreciated

 

[Doer]

You are skipping a few steps as I used to.

You have a little seedling but you don't want to tranplant that until you get 6 inch root ball after a few week, starting in a dixy cup.

big pots drown small root
tranplanting is your friend

Try that. Take those 2 fat ones out, I don't have hope for the other 2.

You can't feed without roots so, with the two fat ones, put them each in a solo cup, I use the bottom 1/2 of a 16 oz. Don't water until they flatten those leaves. Corrugation is a sure sign.





After 3 weeks, when you have a nice root ball out of a 6 inch cup, put that on your flood table and stand back.

 

[Rotorwash22]

You are skipping a few steps as I used to.

You have a little seedling but you don't want to tranplant that until you get 6 inch root ball after a few week, starting in a dixy cup.

big pots drown small root
tranplanting is your friend

Try that. Take those 2 fat ones out, I don't have hope for the other 2.

You can't feed without roots so, with the two fat ones, put them each in a solo cup, I use the bottom 1/2 of a 16 oz. Don't water until they flatten those leaves. Corrugation is a sure sign.

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After 3 weeks, when you have a nice root ball out of a 6 inch cup, put that on your flood table and stand back.

it looks like you're using coco and hydroton? I'm using an Oasis cube, and then waiting for roots to show out the bottom, then I put them in. I see what you're saying as far as getting a good root ball first though. Should I just put the oasis cube surrounded by hydroton in the cup and spray it with PHed water?

 

[Doer]

Well, what I mean is the question of media is separate from this. My system happens to go "crumble." But, that's just me.

Isn't your table hydroton? So, just make a step where you see the roots in the cube, take a solo cup, no drain. And add 1/2 inch of water to the bottom. Then a layer of hydroton, about 1 inch. Spray water. Then the cube, fill with hydroton. spray water, and leave it for a week. Let the roots hunt. If they get a little droopy, they drank that water. So, add a little more water.

Then take that root ball, and do the same thing with a 6 inch azalea cup, but this one can drain. And it is time to begin a little feed, maybe 150 ppm. They can take a little feed water every day. But, watch for droopy. Droopy is ok,. Give a water more often. See? You are getting them ready for flood and drain.

So, maybe 3-4 weeks later than you put those on the table, is the right time to put the 6 inch root ball out and feed every hour.

See?.

 

[Rotorwash22]

Well, what I mean is the question of media is separate from this. My system happens to go "crumble." But, that's just me.

Isn't your table hydroton? So, just make a step where you see the roots in the cube, take a solo cup, no drain. And add 1/2 inch of water to the bottom. Then a layer of hydroton, about 1 inch. Spray water. Then the cube, fill with hydroton. spray water, and leave it for a week. Let the roots hunt. If they get a little droopy, they drank that water. So, add a little more water.

Then take that root ball, and do the same thing with a 6 inch azalea cup, but this one can drain. And it is time to begin a little feed, maybe 150 ppm. They can take a little feed water every day. But, watch for droopy. Droopy is ok,. Give a water more often. See? You are getting them ready for flood and drain.

So, maybe 3-4 weeks later than you put those on the table, is the right time to put the 6 inch root ball out and feed every hour.

See?.

yea, im tracking... do more of a step system than just dropping them into the abyss.

so you don't think I can salvage my autos? just stick with my photo in the DWC?

 

[Doer]

I don't have much hope, but you can try.

 

[Rotorwash22]

Well... The good news is... They all seem to be recovering