Trouble shooting

Rotorwash22

Rotorwash22

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So here are my girls... I've got two autos on an Ebb and Flow tray and one photo in a dwc bucket.
I maintain the RH between 40-60% depending on how much I'm in and out of my room. I try to keep the PH between 5.5-6.5, however it's rising to 7 daily. I've noticed some wilting and yellowing since I moved the girls out of the germination tray. I'm only running 1/4 nutes and this is day 3, so I don't think that's the issue. I noticed that my water levels were lower than my oasis plug so ive adjust that so that the plug is about 1/4" into the flood line on my tray, and right at the top of the water line on my dwc.

Do you think they girls were just thirsty? I don't think its a light issue, my DWC is under two CFLs and the flood tray is under a 600w hps dimmed down 50%.

Also, my larger girl is 3 weeks old and the others are 2 weeks from the day I started germination

Any guidance or suggestions are appreciated
 

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Doer

Doer

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You are skipping a few steps as I used to.

You have a little seedling but you don't want to tranplant that until you get 6 inch root ball after a few week, starting in a dixy cup.

big pots drown small root
tranplanting is your friend

Try that. Take those 2 fat ones out, I don't have hope for the other 2.

You can't feed without roots so, with the two fat ones, put them each in a solo cup, I use the bottom 1/2 of a 16 oz. Don't water until they flatten those leaves. Corrugation is a sure sign.

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After 3 weeks, when you have a nice root ball out of a 6 inch cup, put that on your flood table and stand back. :)
 
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Rotorwash22

Rotorwash22

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Doer said:
You are skipping a few steps as I used to.

You have a little seedling but you don't want to tranplant that until you get 6 inch root ball after a few week, starting in a dixy cup.

big pots drown small root
tranplanting is your friend

Try that. Take those 2 fat ones out, I don't have hope for the other 2.

You can't feed without roots so, with the two fat ones, put them each in a solo cup, I use the bottom 1/2 of a 16 oz. Don't water until they flatten those leaves. Corrugation is a sure sign.

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After 3 weeks, when you have a nice root ball out of a 6 inch cup, put that on your flood table and stand back. :)
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it looks like you're using coco and hydroton? I'm using an Oasis cube, and then waiting for roots to show out the bottom, then I put them in. I see what you're saying as far as getting a good root ball first though. Should I just put the oasis cube surrounded by hydroton in the cup and spray it with PHed water?
 
Doer

Doer

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Well, what I mean is the question of media is separate from this. My system happens to go "crumble." But, that's just me.

Isn't your table hydroton? So, just make a step where you see the roots in the cube, take a solo cup, no drain. And add 1/2 inch of water to the bottom. Then a layer of hydroton, about 1 inch. Spray water. Then the cube, fill with hydroton. spray water, and leave it for a week. Let the roots hunt. If they get a little droopy, they drank that water. So, add a little more water.

Then take that root ball, and do the same thing with a 6 inch azalea cup, but this one can drain. And it is time to begin a little feed, maybe 150 ppm. They can take a little feed water every day. But, watch for droopy. Droopy is ok,. Give a water more often. See? You are getting them ready for flood and drain.

So, maybe 3-4 weeks later than you put those on the table, is the right time to put the 6 inch root ball out and feed every hour.

See?.
 
Rotorwash22

Rotorwash22

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Doer said:
Well, what I mean is the question of media is separate from this. My system happens to go "crumble." But, that's just me.

Isn't your table hydroton? So, just make a step where you see the roots in the cube, take a solo cup, no drain. And add 1/2 inch of water to the bottom. Then a layer of hydroton, about 1 inch. Spray water. Then the cube, fill with hydroton. spray water, and leave it for a week. Let the roots hunt. If they get a little droopy, they drank that water. So, add a little more water.

Then take that root ball, and do the same thing with a 6 inch azalea cup, but this one can drain. And it is time to begin a little feed, maybe 150 ppm. They can take a little feed water every day. But, watch for droopy. Droopy is ok,. Give a water more often. See? You are getting them ready for flood and drain.

So, maybe 3-4 weeks later than you put those on the table, is the right time to put the 6 inch root ball out and feed every hour.

See?.
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yea, im tracking... do more of a step system than just dropping them into the abyss.

so you don't think I can salvage my autos? just stick with my photo in the DWC?
 
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