The UK Growers Thread!

The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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Had a quick look at that Maverick geezer, the rotavap's handy kit to have, can do some funky alcohol infusions with that.

Leather infused whisky and shit, crazy pretentious stuff. lol
 
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R3l@X

R3l@X

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ugh got way 2 wasted last night cracked my phone screen blocked it so now ive to get some fella to fix the screen then unlock my puk not to mention im still coming down n have nothing bar pot thats great but no man n not spoken tpo the misssus yet thats on a war path....love my life
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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Now then lads here's a tale I didn't think I'd tell.



Last week I dropped £85 worth of Btc into my 'Evolution' account to purchase a healthy selection-box of party prescriptions.

Couple of days later I turn on the main PC to a failed boot and an endless 'auto repair' loop by Windows 8.1 Pro rather than the usual 'windows failed to start, what would you like to do'.
Apparently it's a big problem with Windows 8 and the only way to potentially fix it is to 'repair installation' with a Windows 8 disk and turn the new 'auto repair on fail' setting off (it's on by default).

Piece of piss I think to my self and sling in the Windows disk, unfortunately the Windows disk I threw in is an 'auto install' disk and needs no user intervention at all to get to the functional desktop after telling the PC to 'boot from disk' and closing the drawer.
The disk auto format's the master drive and installs Windows on a single partition in about 3 mins.

As soon as I realised, I flicked the switch and pulled the drive out.

The arse has fucking puckered up good an proper now as I slowly realise that not only in my own stupidity have I just formatted the drive but on the desktop was a folder with my Evolution login details in it.
That wouldn't have been so fucking bad if I didn't go and have my password reset mnemonic in the very same folder like a fucking retard instead of in a couple of backup's like my Btc wallet.

So I've reinstalled Windows over my entire Evolution details with £85 sat in the account and I have no way of accessing it cos when I plug the drive into another PC it shows up as a brand new, fresh windows installation.

........:clap:........:dunce:........:wall:

Head fucked and proper raging inside at myself I've spent the last 4 days learning about data recovery, how an operating system files data and what's theoretically possible concerning the recovery of a couple of .txt files containing access to my £85.

Yesterday I phoned a proper data recovery firm in Leeds and explained the problem to get a ball park quote.

The bloke said that because windows had potentially installed over the data to be recovered it would need a proper forensic search and I was looking at around £400 - £500 depending on the size of the hard drive to be searched and a 3 day turnaround, if there's no data to be found there's no fee.
Fuck that shit I said, the data isn't worth anywhere near that much.
Then carry on with your Windows installation and walk away, take it on the chin he says. :oops:

By now I'm starting to come to terms with having to walk away from £85 sat floating around deep cyberspace in a ghost account, then making a whole new account to spend the other £85 sat in my backed up Btc wallet on more drugs to cheer me up over losing the first fucking £85! :roll:





So after snipering 3 or 4 forensic data recovery software suites from torrents It's just taken me 3.5 hours to recover my .txt files with all the information intact using just the first piece of software.
2 hours or so for the software to deep scan the 160GB hard drive and the other 1.5 hours for me to trawl through all the recovered .txt files to find the relevant ones.

Logged in and confirmed.

Piece of piss!!!! :clap:




I wasn't gonna tell the story if I failed, I was just gonna keep it to myself. :lol:

Now there's an 8th of Molly with my name all over it! :hump:
 
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R1b3n4

R1b3n4

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The Yorkshireman said:
Now then lads here's a tale I didn't think I'd tell.



Last week I dropped £85 worth of Btc into my 'Evolution' account to purchase a healthy selection-box of party prescriptions.

Couple of days later I turn on the main PC to a failed boot and an endless 'auto repair' loop by Windows 8.1 Pro rather than the usual 'windows failed to start, what would you like to do'.
Apparently it's a big problem with Windows 8 and the only way to potentially fix it is to 'repair installation' with a Windows 8 disk and turn the new 'auto repair on fail' setting off (it's on by default).

Piece of piss I think to my self and sling in the Windows disk, unfortunately the Windows disk I threw in is an 'auto install' disk and needs no user intervention at all to get to the functional desktop after telling the PC to 'boot from disk' and closing the drawer.
The disk auto format's the master drive and installs Windows on a single partition in about 3 mins.

As soon as I realised, I flicked the switch and pulled the drive out.

The arse has fucking puckered up good an proper now as I slowly realise that not only in my own stupidity have I just formatted the drive but on the desktop was a folder with my Evolution login details in it.
That wouldn't have been so fucking bad if I didn't go and have my password reset mnemonic in the very same folder like a fucking retard instead of in a couple of backup's like my Btc wallet.

So I've reinstalled over my entire Evolution details with £85 sat in the account and I have no way of accessing it cos when I plug the drive into another PC it shows up as a brand new, fresh windows installation.

........:clap:........:dunce:........:wall:

Head fucked and proper raging inside at myself I've spent the last 4 days learning about data recovery, how an operating system files data and what's theoretically possible concerning the recovery of a couple of .txt files containing access to my £85.

Yesterday I phoned a proper data recovery firm in Leeds and explained the problem to get a ball park quote.

The bloke said that because windows had potentially installed over the data to be recovered it would need a proper forensic search and I was looking at around £400 - £500 depending on the size of the hard drive to be searched and a 3 day turnaround, if there's no data to be found there's no fee.
Fuck that shit I said, the data isn't worth anywhere near that much.
Then carry on with your Windows installation and walk away, take it on the chin he says. :oops:

So by now I'm starting to come to terms with having to walk away from £85 sat floating around deep cyberspace in a ghost account, then making a whole new account to spend the other £85 sat in my backed up Btc wallet on more drugs to cheer me up over losing the first fucking £85! :roll:





So after snipering 3 or 4 forensic data recovery software suites from torrents It's just taken me 3.5 hours to recover my .txt files with all the information intact using just the first piece of software.
2 hours or so for the software to deep scan the 160GB hard drive and the other 1.5 hours for me to trawl through all the recovered .txt files to find the relevant ones.

Logged in and confirmed.

Piece of piss!!!! :clap:




I wasn't gonna tell the story if I failed, I was just gonna keep it to myself. :lol:

Now there's an 8th of Molly with my name all over it! :hump:
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lol next time you do something like that gimme a shout, my best mate is a computer whizz an could do up to a 4 layer extraction for you if needed
 
Skuzzy

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Don't yet qualify for this thread on the grower basis, just the location. Putting together my 'room' right this minute, hopefully germinating in a few days, if the last few items I accidentally ordered from China actually arrive.

Anyway, hi UK.
 
The Yorkshireman

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R1b3n4 said:
lol next time you do something like that gimme a shout, my best mate is a computer whizz an could do up to a 4 layer extraction for you if needed
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Well after this episode I'm intrigued.

Now I want to write over the drive loads of times in different ways to see how much can be recovered so easily.

I know of a German machine that Interpol use that reads between the microscopic grooves made by the needle on the platter.

It works on the fact that hard drives are not very precise and can never really write over the exact same place twice so the machine reads the bits between the hard drives calibration zone and makes a logical picture up of the rest that isn't directly recoverable.

It's the only machine as accurate in the world though and it's fucking huge.
 
R1b3n4

R1b3n4

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The Yorkshireman said:
Well after this episode I'm intrigued.

Now I want to write over the drive loads of times in different ways to see how much can be recovered so easily.

I know of a German machine that Interpol use that reads between the microscopic grooves made by the needle on the platter.

It works on the fact that hard drives are not very precise and can never really write over the exact same place twice so the machine reads the bits between the hard drives calibration zone and makes a logical picture up of the rest that isn't directly recoverable.

It's the only machine as accurate in the world though and it's fucking huge.
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From what i understand of it, depending on what type of info it is (jpeg/exe/) etc and depending on HOW it is saved by which program/service dictates roughly how the data corrupts as each layer is added, the more layers added the more they corrupt or are overwritten and thus harder to find/recover
 
R1b3n4

R1b3n4

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Skuzzy said:
Don't yet qualify for this thread on the grower basis, just the location. Putting together my 'room' right this minute, hopefully germinating in a few days, if the last few items I accidentally ordered from China actually arrive.

Anyway, hi UK.
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Heya, so what kinda stuff you ordered and whats your general plan for growing gonna be then?
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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R1b3n4 said:
From what i understand of it, depending on what type of info it is (jpeg/exe/) etc and depending on HOW it is saved by which program/service dictates roughly how the data corrupts as each layer is added, the more layers added the more they corrupt or are overwritten and thus harder to find/recover
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Makes sense, the Windows installation with my wiped data on it was fresh on a brand new hard drive only 3 months or so ago.

Other than the login details, video game save files, a few movie downloads and my wallet, there was fuck all on it.
 
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Skuzzy

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R1b3n4 said:
Heya, so what kinda stuff you ordered and whats your general plan for growing gonna be then?
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I have a 120cmx60cm area, growing in coco/perlite with canna nutrients (I will start to write 'nutes' once I pass the noob stage I guess). I am growing blue mystic, because someone said it was low odour but I am considering switching to something a little more familiar, taste wise.

I just tested the light...fuck me I had no idea how bright 600W was!

Here's a pic to bring back memories of losing your grow virginity.

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The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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And on the plus side I can now recover the 500GB of movies and music I wiped by accident the other month (installing the first Windows and formatting the wrong drive) and the 500GB of games and randomness on this other old drive before it fails too.

I've just got a shiney new 160GB boot drive and 2 x 1000GB storage drives with 2 years warranty for about £100.

Bargain.
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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Skuzzy said:
I have a 120cmx60cm area, growing in coco/perlite with canna nutrients (I will start to write 'nutes' once I pass the noob stage I guess). I am growing blue mystic, because someone said it was low odour but I am considering switching to something a little more familiar, taste wise.

I just tested the light...fuck me I had no idea how bright 600W was!

Here's a pic to bring back memories of losing your grow virginity.

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You'll be needing a better filter mate.


You're looking at £38 ish for a 4" Rhino Pro on ebay and £50 ish for a 5".
 
Skuzzy

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Quick question for the experienced (Jimi Hendrix not withstanding)

In the cold northern climate, do you need to supplement heat in a small grow space during dark cycles?
 
The Yorkshireman

The Yorkshireman

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The fan might be OK, we've not seen it.

But yeah, budget filters are made from budget charcoal, they're shit.

It's not very long either, less surface area of carbon bed means less filtration.

For the £30 or so budget filters cost it's worth spending a score more on quality and it lasting a couple of years rather than going through 4 per grow in shitter's (as we've seen here before).
 
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