rory420420
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if you're popping any progro,I urge you to watch for the hermies..all this negtive stuff about cc isn't just a bunch of people clanning together to make stuff up...
Well, not every S1 is hermie prone.wow CC just dropped green crack and purple crack....its SOO funny because on the description of the purple crack it says "Purple Crack is Cali Connections Green Crack crossed with their Famous Blackwater male" o yeah those famous cali connection males that make fem seeds?? why would you make a strain and then make and sell the s1's from it??? or why would you make a female plant herm and then breed with that pollen??? SWERVE YOU SUCK, and anyone who sided with you just looks like an ass...[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]everyone[/FONT] knows you can find some good gear in CC"s collection of s1 seeds but everyone also knows that you could ruin your crop and will HAVE to sort through hermies to find that keeper
I actually don't see a problem. The cannabis market has a definite demand for feminized seed, so why wouldn't a breeder cross two or more solid phenos to create fems?wow CC just dropped green crack and purple crack....its SOO funny because on the description of the purple crack it says "Purple Crack is Cali Connections Green Crack crossed with their Famous Blackwater male" o yeah those famous cali connection males that make fem seeds?? why would you make a strain and then make and sell the s1's from it??? or why would you make a female plant herm and then breed with that pollen??? SWERVE YOU SUCK, and anyone who sided with you just looks like an ass...[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]everyone[/FONT] knows you can find some good gear in CC"s collection of s1 seeds but everyone also knows that you could ruin your crop and will HAVE to sort through hermies to find that keeper
I think most breeders attempt to achieve this at some point. Some like sannie will be transparent about the generation of cross there are currently in but most don't. That doesn't mean it's not a constant work in progress.Well, not every S1 is hermie prone.
There are now three separate breeders who offer Green Crack S1 (Sickmeds, Riot Se-eds, and Cali Con), though they typically go out of stock fast. I've seen multiple grow reports on this, grown it several times myself and personally never seen a single hermie; even when grown right next to other plants that did go hermie. I've also seen multiple reports of self created Green Crack S1s, again, same thing. If you want to see my personal report on this (plus a lot more info on the line), see here:
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/601519-sickmeds-green-crack-s1-feminized.html#post8410291
In this particular case, the original Green Crack is probably a true F1 between two stable inbred lines (in this case Mendo Purps and Skunk #1). So S1s of that are effectively F2s of the original parents. These will put out a wide variety of phenos, but they do have the characteristic mango/melon scent of the original and short flowering time. Interestingly, UNLIKE the clone only parent, the S1s also tend to go purple!
My issue with CaliCon here is basically the same one I have with Riot's S1. Making an S1 of a "clone only" line is pretty straightforward. There is no selection, and no real breeding skill involved there. All you have to do is take a clone of the parent, throw your "hermifying" chemical (EG Colloidal silver, etc) on it, and let it self pollinate. Or you can gather the pollen and use it on another clone (or clones). In 60 days you'll have beans, and that's really all there is to it.
In this particular case, the parent "Green Crack" is one of the single most widely available "clone only" strains in the marketplace, and dirt cheap, with good cuts available for $15 now. Consequently, beans of this type of S1 "should" be dirt cheap, amongst THE cheapest of ANY feminized beans out there.
I don't have a problem with breeders ASKING anything they want for their product. . .its a free market. . .but IMO, you'd be insane to pay the $20/bean price Riot and CaliCon are asking for fem se-eds of this, which is as much as really outstanding "worked" lines from other breeders. Sickmeds is asking roughly 1/3 the price (only about $7/bean) for the exact same thing, and IMO that's more like it.
Now, if someone were to create a STABLE version of this in regular se-ed form, then I think they might be able to justify a premium price, just to recover the work they did in creating it. I know of at least one private breeder who has been working on something like this; don't know of any commercially available versions/projects at this time. But again, doing something like this actually takes WORK. . .its not a quick "pollen chuck".
That's priceless, you telling growers to test run their genetics 2 or 3 times before committing to a big run...based on personal experience, I wonder if you even germ test your gear, let alone grow it out and test it...I could go on and on.u always test your gear aka run then at least 2-3 times before committing to a any commercial run...i just dont understand certain things. when people say hermie there are so many things to take into account...
"Purple Crack is Cali Connections Green Crack crossed with their Famous Blackwater male"
I got at least 2 freebies in every order from cali connection, I learned fast to just give them away.why you continued to use those seeds is hilarious to think of, lol
I got their boss hog as a freebie. I was pumped. I'm like yea, watch me prove everybody wrong. I'm thinking his name is swerve shits sounds cool haha. I mean its Cali, how could it possibly be bad?I got at least 2 freebies in every order from cali connection, I learned fast to just give them away.
You are lucky that the boss hog didn't make it, mine microseeded and the whole plant was garbage.I got their boss hog as a freebie. I was pumped. I'm like yea, watch me prove everybody wrong. I'm thinking his name is swerve shits sounds cool haha. I mean its Cali, how could it possibly be bad?
Only two seeds as freebie.
Neither made it past germination
still didnt learn, ordered the Tahoe OG. Lanky plant with garbage bud. The complaints were nuts. I just cant do it
Just had High hopes for swerve and cali in general. I was looking for some west coast fire. I got a few keepers now though, dinafem gear and dr. greenthumb. Still saving up for mr nice, but I'm cool for nowYou are lucky that the boss hog didn't make it, mine microseeded and the whole plant was garbage.