The French Cannoli` Hash Thread

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Shawns420

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Bubblemans a duch he's the Monsanto of Cannabis, I love Frenchy and its tempted to watch but Bubbleman ?
The guy just takes others info and sells it as his own, he's even blocked me on Facebook LOL for calling him out for taking people genetics that where kind enough to gift them to Bubbleman and Bubbleman turns around and gives all the genetics he was gifted to the Licensed Produes in Canada but to each there own :)
 
ed's

ed's

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hello!

I have been reading this thread for some time (still not finished) :)

about three months ago I became OBSESSED with hash. I love the idea of creating a soleventless product. I have set my goals high. I have decided to become the finest hash maker in the state of Oregon or lose my mind trying :) (no offense to others here). You have to have goals!

I started by reading tons of books. I have seen almost every single video, documentary and any information that I can get my hands on. I stumbled on "frenchy's" videos a little while back and throughly enjoyed them all. I also love the idea of pressing the hash, which I know is not necessarily the route many are going currently. The trend seems to be towards the looser kief, but I love both. I am a fan of using the long historical practices and when applicable, applying new methods as well. I have been doing dry sift, water and any other method I can try. I still have a tremendous amount to learn, but do have final products in various stages currently "curing"

I spent some time today working on some and have some questions and comments that I hope you can help with.

I would start by saying that with todays batch I did a number of things differently than I have been doing with my other batches. Some of the things that I did today were in fact based on tips and advice from Frenchy's videos. I guess I should talk a little about how I have been doing things and what was different with todays load. I will also (hopefully) post some pics.....

I have been running batches using eight bags (220-25). I have been painstakingly been pulling each bag and separating into each different batch. I also have used the 220 bag either in a machine or by hand. Then I dump the water into the other bags. I have some batches as short as three minutes and ones as long at 21 minutes.

In the batches before today I would press the water out of the piles, microplain, let dry and store. The only thing that is odd about the older batches is that I have traditionally seen very little green color in any bag and also the quality has been pretty decent all the way through. Of course the older batches were stored as loose material and none of it was pressed (yet :)). over time the golden piles have taken on a brown or reddish hue. I should also say the batches looked pretty good considering I was not necessarily using the best material, which was also confusing....Also I have been freezing the trim.

Today I decided to do things differently. I started by using fresh material. I did not use the 220 bag, but put the material in the machine with the purified ice and water. I let the first run go about 9 minutes.

The first thing I noticed is that the water was much darker (green) than any batch I have done. First I used the 160 bag followed by the 73 and then the 45 (as shown in the video). I also noticed all the bags were much more green than any previous. I continued to run batches and each subsequent one became more green still. I will say that I do love my all mesh bags (no I did not get the good ones because I had purchased mine before I saw them).


I am hoping to be able to upload some pics to show what I am talking about.

Image 1 is the first run 73.
Image 2 is the 73, 90 and some later runs
Image 3 is the 45 (when I pulled it at the end) with the 45 that has been dried.
Image 4 is a comparison of all of them.
Image 5, 6 and 7 show todays with my loose material from previous runs.


Anyway, I appreciate any help and or tips. I will say that I find the task of quick drying the material in towels and then chopping it up MUCH easier than quick freezing and micro planing as I have done previously.

I will also say that I hate, hate, hate the pressing :). I love the rest of the process, but that part is a killer. I did experiment with using a hair-straightening appliance hoping it would work. I think it could have, but I do not think it was pressing hard enough. I also do not know the optimal temperature for pressing ultimately.

Thanks in advance and for all the wonderful information! I am also sure I forgot a few questions that I will still have :)
 

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Dr.Pecker

Dr.Pecker

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My hash with frenchy's method is the best hash I have ever smoked. Superior in smell, flavor and high no shit! not quite a year. I have made fresher hash not bottle rolled and there is no comparison. Night and day.
 
Frenchy Cannoli

Frenchy Cannoli

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Ed's if your fresh trims were frozen what you see is all the chlorophyl that come from freezing fresh plant material which are made of 90% of water.
Everybody hate pressing my friend and that is why it is so interesting that our ancestors in every producing countries have been doing it forever and brought it to an art form. Best temperature is somewhere between 220 and 180
 
Frenchy Cannoli

Frenchy Cannoli

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I forgot to tell you guys that I was invited to be on the Hash Church panel of specialists, I had a lot of fun and learned a ton and half from K of Trichome Technologies and Todd McCormick who was our host. The conversation was deep on our side when the camera was not on. I will most certainly try to make it a regular religious commitment
 
ed's

ed's

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Frenchy Cannoli said:
Ed's if your fresh trims were frozen what you see is all the chlorophyl that come from freezing fresh plant material which are made of 90% of water.
Everybody hate pressing my friend and that is why it is so interesting that our ancestors in every producing countries have been doing it forever and brought it to an art form. Best temperature is somewhere between 220 and 180
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thanks for the reply! The trim was fresh and not frozen. I was just confused as I saw more green than I have ever seen in a run that I have done. It was odd. I did not know if there was some other technical reason that there would be so much chlorophyl...... thanks for the info on the temps :)
 
Frenchy Cannoli

Frenchy Cannoli

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Fresh trims have more chlorophyl than dry, it is obvious when you see it. You need to power wash the resin in your bag before collecting to eliminate most of the chlorophyl
 
BDOGKush

BDOGKush

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hyroot said:
here's a pressed slab of that same hash ready to dab

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Damn Hyroot, that looks so clean and delicious!

I was reading through some of this thread last night and decided to try and hand press a small amount of trichomes from my grinder. I held my thumb over the pile until it fused together and stuck to my thumb, I then tried rolling and kneading it but what I ended up with was a hard rock of kief. It made it smokable without adding flower but nothing close to what I'm seeing on this thread. Not enough heat I'm guessing?

I have a large amount of dry ice extracted kief, would I be able to practice hand pressing that? I know the quality isn't as great as IWE but it's what I have at the time.

Can you use the hot bottle technique to press dry ice kief? Or will impurities cause it to not bind that same?
 
hyroot

hyroot

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BDOGKush said:
Damn Hyroot, that looks so clean and delicious!

I was reading through some of this thread last night and decided to try and hand press a small amount of trichomes from my grinder. I held my thumb over the pile until it fused together and stuck to my thumb, I then tried rolling and kneading it but what I ended up with was a hard rock of kief. It made it smokable without adding flower but nothing close to what I'm seeing on this thread. Not enough heat I'm guessing?

I have a large amount of dry ice extracted kief, would I be able to practice hand pressing that? I know the quality isn't as great as IWE but it's what I have at the time.

Can you use the hot bottle technique to press dry ice kief? Or will impurities cause it to not bind that same?
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You might be able to make rosin with it or just clean it up with Frenchy's dry sift method then heat press.


I made some full melt rosin earlier out of some 25µ no melt. Got 2 full melt fat dabs out of a half gram of 25µ.
 
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smiceis

smiceis

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Frenchy Cannoli said:
too low a quality and/or too much contaminant. Dry ice sieved kief may have a lot of contaminant as well
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Good to see u back Frenchie. I had made some dry ice kief then pressed it in a clay extruder/press then micro planed it and finally made a freakin cannoli out of it. Would not have believed it would work. Finally found a use for the wife's stack of empty wine bottles always laying around.
@bdog... Give it a try....u never know. Peace
 
BDOGKush

BDOGKush

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Frenchy Cannoli said:
too low a quality and/or too much contaminant. Dry ice sieved kief may have a lot of contaminant as well
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Yea, probably too much contaminant. When I got home yesterday I tried hand pressing a gram of dry ice kief, it looked good but when I started working it, parts of plant matter started to stand out. I worked that piece for over an hour and ended up with the same thing, a hard rock of kief. It did get a little soft for awhile but went back to a hard state. It was pretty shocking to see how much plant matter was actually in that dry ice extracted kief. One good take away from this was that I got to experience a change in the smell like you describe.
 
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