the tendency to think evolution stopped from the neck down

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Padawanbater2

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see4 said:
Except the only problem with this information is that it is not accurate, according to "A Short History of War", where we note that the first formal armies were "Sumer and Akkad", in the area known as present day Iraq. I don't want to spoil it for you, but these folks were very violent indeed.

And oddly, Europe has not been the foremost advanced society, unless you include the Romans as European. Some argue they were not. Many advances in technology, back then, were adopted from Chinese and other Asian culture. Like gunpowder, which changed the world forever.
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Who argues the Romans were not European? Rome is in Europe, so it would seem like a stretch to call them anything but that..
TBoneJack said:
What do you think are the reasons for the high number of European scientists and mathematicians who won Nobel prizes and Fields Medals, respectively?
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What did we just discuss? Namely, geography determines those successes. Success is based on chance of birth, not only in scientific or medical advances, but in literacy, teen pregnancy rates, disease, religion, etc. In the US and other modern western cultures it's also largely, and I'd argue primarily, based on income.
 
TBoneJack

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Padawanbater2 said:
What did we just discuss? Namely, geography determines those successes. Success is based on chance of birth, not only in scientific or medical advances, but in literacy, teen pregnancy rates, disease, religion, etc. In the US and other modern western cultures it's also largely, and I'd argue primarily, based on income.
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Well OK, smarty pants.
 
UncleBuck

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see4 said:
Except the only problem with this information is that it is not accurate, according to "A Short History of War", where we note that the first formal armies were "Sumer and Akkad", in the area known as present day Iraq. I don't want to spoil it for you, but these folks were very violent indeed.

And oddly, Europe has not been the foremost advanced society, unless you include the Romans as European. Some argue they were not. Many advances in technology, back then, were adopted from Chinese and other Asian culture. Like gunpowder, which changed the world forever.
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let's not forget that muslims weaponized gunpowder. europe took the idea from them.
 
TBoneJack

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UncleBuck said:
so then phillip t. hoffman is racist as fuck?
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He explained it in terms of the opportunity to develop weapons and organize into conquering forces. There's nothing racist about the way he phrased it, as far as I could tell, senator.
 
see4

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Padawanbater2 said:
Who argues the Romans were not European? Rome is in Europe, so it would seem like a stretch to call them anything but that..
What did we just discuss? Namely, geography determines those successes. Success is based on chance of birth, not only in scientific or medical advances, but in literacy, teen pregnancy rates, disease, religion, etc. In the US and other modern western cultures it's also largely, and I'd argue primarily, based on income.
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In geography I agree. Also, for part of the Roman Empire I would also agree, from a cultural standpoint. But not all. Ottomans and Byzantines were not "European".
 
see4

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TBoneJack said:
What do you think are the reasons for the high number of European scientists and mathematicians who won Nobel prizes and Fields Medals, respectively?
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So when the Mighty Ducks win the Stanley Cup, the US is considered the greatest hockey nation in the world?

Nobel Prize is Swedish born I believe, or maybe Norwegian or Dutch or something.. Im too lazy to go look it up. Plus Im high.

Besides, I'm not sure I understand your argument.

And just to throw this out there... Germans have some 120 or so laureates, while the United States only has 350 something.

Apparently the "melting pot" concept works.
 
TheHermit

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see4 said:
In geography I agree. Also, for part of the Roman Empire I would also agree, from a cultural standpoint. But not all. Ottomans and Byzantines were not "European".
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Why would you consider Byzantines not European? They spoke Greek and their capital was in Europe. A lot of their territory wasn't in Europe proper, but neither was a lot of the Roman Empire.
 
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TheHermit said:
Why would you consider Byzantines not European? They spoke Greek and their capital was in Europe. A lot of their territory wasn't in Europe proper, but neither was a lot of the Roman Empire.
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I suppose you answered it. Thanks.

I think what I'm trying to get at maybe; is that, America has always been American, China has always been Chinese, Ottoman and Persian have always been Middle Eastern, but Europe has not always been European. If that makes sense.
 
UncleBuck

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@ginwilly

now that you're back, i'd like to invite you to explain why your "neck down" evolution theory is so popular in white supremacy circles and has been cited as the most influential work of "scientific" racism to date.

welcome back!
 
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