Neoliberal Economics is DEAD

Harrekin

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The time for a new economics is at hand

The crises we now face illustrate the limits of neoclassical orthodoxy

March 8, 2015 3:00AM ETby Julie Matthaei @JulieMatthaeiIn early January I passed out a leaflet to my colleagues at the annual meeting of the American Economic Association in Boston, which brought together more than 11,000 economists and social scientists. The leaflet pointed out the profession’s failure to predict the 2008 financial crisis and challenged economics professors to incorporate new ideas into their teachings. As a self-proclaimed Marxist-feminist-anti-racist-ecological economist and economics professor, I was glad to take this opportunity to protest the lack of pluralism in the profession as well as the weaknesses of mainstream neoclassical economic theory, especially in the currently dominant free-market form.The leafleting was part of an action organized by the kick-it-over campaign ofAdbusters, the anti-consumerist Canadian nonprofit headed by Kalle Lasn, whose call to “occupy Wall Street” sparked the movement that swept the U.S. in the fall of 2011. Just as Occupy Wall Street aimed at exposing the failures of the financial industry, the kick-it-over campaign aims to expose the failures of the economics profession. The recent rise of Rethinking Economics and the International Student Initiative for Pluralism in Economics, with groups in more than 20 countries, is part of this heartening trend.One of the biggest weaknesses of U.S. economists and economics these days is the inability to think creatively. Almost all introductory economics classes taught in the United States — and core theory courses for economics majors and Ph.D. students — teach a school of economic theory that historians of economic thought callneoclassical economics (opposed to the earlier, classical economics of Adam Smith, David Ricardo and Karl Marx). Neoclassical economists take the capitalist market economy as a given and focus on its allocation of scarce resources among competing individuals. They build models based on assumptions of narrowly self-interested, materialistic utility maximization by consumers and profit maximization by firms. Sharing this foundation, their liberal and conservative camps disagree about the type and extent of government intervention required to respond to market failures. Neoclassical economics provides a wealth of insights into capitalist market economies. The problem is that it represents itself as economics, per se.The important insights of other forms of economics — which tend to be more historical, critical and visionary — are thereby banished. For example, radical and Marxist economics, which focus on the class inequality and power, bring crucial warnings about economic injustice and the corruption of political power by the wealthy and large corporations as well as visions of possible superior economic systems. And feminist economics, by foregrounding gender difference and inequality, elucidates the problems resulting from the nonpayment of reproductive labor and the banishment of feminine caring values from the goals of capitalist firms. These and other heterodoxspecialties exist in professional associations and journals, but they are almost never mentioned, let alone represented, in core economics classes at the undergraduate or graduate level. Students who question the narrowness of neoclassical assumptions and models are told to think like an economist — i.e., a neoclassical economist — or else. This narrowness of perspective is reproduced when students who were taught only neoclassical economics become professors who teach only it.

The rise of neoliberalism

The hegemony of neoclassical economics and the relative power of its left (interventionist) and right (free market) wings have varied with the political economic climate of the country and the world. In the U.S. by the late 1960s, popular and student activist movements for civil rights, labor, feminism and environmentalism had reconnected to and revitalized the Marxist theories that had been suppressed during the McCarthy era. Students like me were drawn to economics because of their concern with the pressing economic problems of poverty, inequality, racism, gender inequality and environmental destruction and found that heterodox theoretical frameworks — which foregrounded power, class inequality and the role of economic institutions and culture in reproducing them — were more amenable to the kind of critical analysis they were looking for.In this way, the radical social movements of the 1960s were able to gain a foothold in the economics profession. They revived and transformed theoretical traditions more critical of capitalism than neoclassicism. They formed an active left wing of the profession and engaged in healthy dialogue and alliances with left-leaning, Keynesian neoclassical economists who were convinced of the necessity of government spending to counteract unemployment and of other forms of market interventions such as anti-poverty programs, environmental regulation and anti-trust laws. Economists played a key role in creating the climate within which President Richard Nixon proposed the Environmental Protection Agency to Congress in 1970 and President Jimmy Carter signed the Full Employment and Balanced Growth Act in 1978.

The 1980s saw what can only be described as a counterreaction, both in the political economy and in academia. Building on the earlier work of conservative, Chicago School economists such as Milton Friedman and funding by conservative think tanks such as the American Enterprise Institute, new theories and fields expounding the ineffectiveness of government regulation rose to prominence and came to be known by heterodox economists and other outsiders as neoliberalism or free market fundamentalism. Prescribing deregulation, the weakening of the social safety net, free trade, privatization and tax cuts for the wealthy, they quickly gained political ascendancy, thanks to President Ronald Reagan and British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. Neoliberalism has maintained the upper hand in policymaking ever since, contributing directly to the 2008 financial crisis through its disastrous undoing of post-Depression financial reforms and to the prevalence of budget-cutting austerity programs in the U.S. and Europe.As neoliberalism gained ascendency, the center of gravity of mainstream, neoclassical economics moved to the right. Meanwhile, discrimination against Marxists and other critics has increased. We are ignored, ridiculed and told we’re not economists. There are very few job openings for us, mostly at liberal arts colleges rather than at universities with Ph.D. programs. This is the climate within which an interesting and sobering new form of McCarthyism occurred last spring. Six hundred liberal economists, including seven Nobel laureates, were red-baited by the Employment Policy Institute, ashady think tank funded by the restaurant industry, in a full-page New York Timesadvertisement because the letter they sent to President Barack Obama supporting increases in the minimum wage was also signed by eight radical/Marxist economists (including me).
Hang on, MANY economists and ordinary people predicted the 08 collapse...

The politico class were too busy swimming in rivers of champagne with record revenues (read: taxes), they didn't give a shit what the economists were warning about and the only bubbles they cared about were the ones in their glasses.
 

Fogdog

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Hang on, MANY economists and ordinary people predicted the 08 collapse...

The politico class were too busy swimming in rivers of champagne with record revenues (read: taxes), they didn't give a shit what the economists were warning about and the only bubbles they cared about were the ones in their glasses.
Sorry, some economists were predicting the 08 collapse. About the same number predict a collapse each year. There were some credible people predicting a collapse by the second quarter of 08 and some not so credible. It wasn't just the politicos either. Wall Street was full of exuberance until the end. Charles Prince of Citigroup said "As long as the music is playing, you’ve got to get up and dance." (07-2007)
 

ginwilly

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Sorry, some economists were predicting the 08 collapse. About the same number predict a collapse each year. There were some credible people predicting a collapse by the second quarter of 08 and some not so credible. It wasn't just the politicos either. Wall Street was full of exuberance until the end. Charles Prince of Citigroup said "As long as the music is playing, you’ve got to get up and dance." (07-2007)
Very true, but some explained in 07 early 08 that we had created an unsustainable housing market that would collapse the financials. They went on to explain the house of cards that CDFs were and warned of a colossal collapse.

That's not the same as Krugman predicting 12 of 8 recessions then claiming victory. These dudes were very specific as the why and how, just not the when. Andy Beal is an example of a banking billionaire who said "you guys are whack" started pulling out of the market in 04 in spite of the money others were making hand over fist. Credit rating agencies were threatening to lower ratings because they felt he wasn't holding enough debt.

If you've ever heard of the book The Professor, The Banker and The Suicide King. he was the subject.

I followed him simply because of my love for poker, he was pretty famous for challenging the top poker players for insane money (almost always lost too, but still baller).
 

UncleBuck

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Sorry, some economists were predicting the 08 collapse. About the same number predict a collapse each year.
lolololololol. too true.

rawn pawl doesn't get any credit here because he is endlessly predicting doom to try to boost his gold portfolio.
 

ttystikk

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To say that democracy is dead in this country ignores the fact that it has always been an unfair fight between capital and labor or an entitled majority and a suppressed minority. There was never a golden age for the conduct of politics in this country. Accomplishing anything major politically has always been a bare knuckle fist fight between two or more opponents. Sometimes the fight was figurative, sometimes it was literally a fight and blood was drawn. Corruption is not new either. In the past we had Tammany Hall in New York, Mayor Daly's political machine in Chicago. Recently, Wall Street's actions during the 2008 financial crisis and the Koch Brother's corrupt acts to stifle labor and environmental movements by setting up sham PACs (and I suspect, bankrolling the Teaparty Movement) are recent egregious examples of the rot in our democratic system. But as a famous peasant said in Monty Python's The Holy Grail, "Not dead yet!".

I still have my vote and you still have yours. Those in power don't always win. When they do lose, they start chipping away at the victory but that doesn't mean they will succeed. Conservatives -- and I mean the GOP as well as blue dog democrats -- were against the Social Security act since its inception during the Roosevelt administration. The Bush Jr administration announced that they were going to change the Social Security act. Bush II and his cronies very quickly lost all political capital gained by winning his second term. Social Security and Medicare were good deals for my parents and I expect it will survive going forward. Social security, Medicare, the Civil Rights Bills, and even the clean air act have survived assaults by the right. I think that they are not going away any time soon but people are going to have to fight to protect them. This is all to say that in spite of how bad things look today, we've made progress in the last 50 or 100 years. Heck, recreational use of marijuana is going to be legal in my state soon and I call that progress too.

Shifting gears to the discussion of economic theory or as economists like to call it, the dismal science, I admit that I only took one economics class during college. The name of the course was "Economic History of the United States". The class was a double bagger in that it satisfied the requirements for two economics courses and enabled me to spend more time studying Biochemistry. I was a scientist then and still am. I was a good student but I couldn't accept the dogma that passed for knowledge in the field of economics and still can't. Neoclassical economic theory hinges upon the idea that humans always act in their own self interest. Not true -- people sacrifice themselves for the greater good when necessary. Also, people don't always want more than they need. The Swedes have a term -- Lagom -- that means enough to go around or enough to share. Its a driving concept in their society. I got a good mark in the class but came away from it convinced that Economists and Economics ignore the fact that people are evolved apes. I think that economic theory treats people as if they are a predictable widget. Anybody want to correct me? I can always learn.

We are social animals that protect our own but also protect our place in society and will defend sometimes to the death our tribe or our society in general. Recognizing that "success" is variable depending on the individual, during the first 20 or 30 years of our lives we learn what it takes to "succeed" in our society and we aren't very flexible after that. Some of my fellow apes are super-territoral and accumulate way more -- in terms of money, mates, possessions, land, whatever -- than they ever need. Some, probably most just want to spend time with family and have enough to share -- Lagom.

For myself, I rejected neoliberal/neoclassical economics as too simplistic a long time ago. When discussing a political or social issue, people quoting Freidman or other scholars sound to me like they are babbling. This goes for people that quote the bible in similar situations. If heterodox economists take into account the science of human behavior, biology, physical and social anthropology, as well as the logic behind the current economic system, marxist theory and others, then they might be getting somewhere. That's a pretty tall order.

Alright, I rambled. Maybe I don't even believe everything that I just wrote. I need to think about it and hope for more than stupidhead responses although I expect there will be some of those too. Back to you, ttystykk
There's one that you might - or might not - have left out... and that's the desire to be remembered for leaving the world a better place.

That's what THIS ape wants, and that turns out to be a pretty tall order, too.

Your post is thought provoking- and coming from me that's high praise, indeed.
 

Fogdog

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Very true, but some explained in 07 early 08 that we had created an unsustainable housing market that would collapse the financials. They went on to explain the house of cards that CDFs were and warned of a colossal collapse.

That's not the same as Krugman predicting 12 of 8 recessions then claiming victory. These dudes were very specific as the why and how, just not the when. Andy Beal is an example of a banking billionaire who said "you guys are whack" started pulling out of the market in 04 in spite of the money others were making hand over fist. Credit rating agencies were threatening to lower ratings because they felt he wasn't holding enough debt.

If you've ever heard of the book The Professor, The Banker and The Suicide King. he was the subject.

I followed him simply because of my love for poker, he was pretty famous for challenging the top poker players for insane money (almost always lost too, but still baller).
I'm a hundredaire myself. But I must think like Sr. Beal because I think those guys are whack too. I'll take a look at the book, thanks.
 

Fogdog

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the desire to be remembered for leaving the world a better place....That's what THIS ape wants, and that turns out to be a pretty tall order, too.
Well said. I think you capture the jist of my rambling, which is that we are well evolved social apes, not simple, predictable, acquisitive, selfish consumers to crunch in a mathematical model. Economic theory could benefit from seeding itself with new ideas from the different branches of science and the arts. At least I hope that is where they are going.

One thing that occurred to me after thinking about the initial post that you used to kick off this topic is the failure to give a clear warning regarding the financial meltdown of 2008. What an incredible fail. Even during the summer of 2008, there was much bickering between experts regarding the severity of the upcoming crash and recession. Imagine if weather scientists had argued about whether or not Katrina was actually going to be a superstorm just before it hit New Orleans?
 

TheHermit

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Sadly, it seems nothing was learned in the financial collapse in 2008. The bubble was simply shifted from real estate to the stock market. During the collapse, the dow jones dropped to around 6600. Today it is pushing near 18,000. While the economy has improved since then, I really don't see how it has almost tripled. There is no real justification for this increase other than the fed has been creating a lot of money and it has to go somewhere.
 

Harrekin

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Sadly, it seems nothing was learned in the financial collapse in 2008. The bubble was simply shifted from real estate to the stock market. During the collapse, the dow jones dropped to around 6600. Today it is pushing near 18,000. While the economy has improved since then, I really don't see how it has almost tripled. There is no real justification for this increase other than the fed has been creating a lot of money and it has to go somewhere.
Traders be tradin'.
 

Fogdog

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TheHer[URL='http://www.amazon.com/Sociobiology-Bioeconomics-Evolution-Biological-Economic/dp/3540653805']http:[/URL]post: 11395808 said:
Sadly, it seems nothing was learned in the financial collapse in 2008. The bubble was simply shifted from real estate to the stock market. During the collapse, the dow jones dropped to around 6600. Today it is pushing near 18,000. While the economy has improved since then, I really don't see how it has almost tripled. There is no real justification for this increase other than the fed has been creating a lot of money and it has to go somewhere.
Too true. Financial institutions prevented any real changes from being implemented and even rolled back the ones that were. I've read some financial reports that claim the mortgage market is showing the same froth that led to the recent collapse. Economists serving these institutions and the statisticians that dress up their dismal theory into cute graphs into display babble are also part of the problem.

Couldn't the problem also lie in that capitalist economic theory is a philosophy and not tangible? Capitalist economies are based upon an agreement between individuals to use this philosophy in their laws and daily commerce. Capitalism is a better way to organize an economy than what went on before it and certainly better than communism but we've learned a lot since Adam Smith first proposed it. Here is an alternate approach. Not saying I've read the book but I'm intrigued.

//www.amazon.com/Sociobiology-Bioeconomics-Evolution-Biological-Economic/dp/3540653805mit,
 

Harrekin

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Too true. Financial institutions prevented any real changes from being implemented and even rolled back the ones that were. I've read some financial reports that claim the mortgage market is showing the same froth that led to the recent collapse. Economists serving these institutions and the statisticians that dress up their dismal theory into cute graphs into display babble are also part of the problem.

Couldn't the problem also lie in that capitalist economic theory is a philosophy and not tangible? Capitalist economies are based upon an agreement between individuals to use this philosophy in their laws and daily commerce. Capitalism is a better way to organize an economy than what went on before it and certainly better than communism but we've learned a lot since Adam Smith first proposed it. Here is an alternate approach. Not saying I've read the book but I'm intrigued.

//www.amazon.com/Sociobiology-Bioeconomics-Evolution-Biological-Economic/dp/3540653805mit,
Free market capitalism is the natural order, it emerged naturally in several separate cultures across the planet at different times in our history.

To imply it doesn't exist is absurd, don't just repeat what some lefty talking head told you.
 

Pinworm

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Free market capitalism is the natural order, it emerged naturally in several separate cultures across the planet at different times in our history.

To imply it doesn't exist is absurd, don't just repeat what some lefty talking head told you.
Oh, come now, shorty pants. This argument is easily turned right back around.
 

UncleBuck

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Oh, come now, shorty pants. This argument is easily turned right back around.
well, he hasn't even cited it yet. so there is no need to do anything but watch him flail in the wind since he is so obviously full of shit.

but since he is 4'11'', it is not a whole lot of shit. a small mound of shit.

a manageable amount of shit.
 

Pinworm

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well, he hasn't even cited it yet. so there is no need to do anything but watch him flail in the wind since he is so obviously full of shit.

but since he is 4'11'', it is not a whole lot of shit. a small mound of shit.

a manageable amount of shit.
His stature is very compact.
 
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