Medical Marijuana Bill in US Senate

[bluto392]

http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/9/8177255/federal-medical-marijuana-law

Anyone think this bill will get a hearing or make any headway? I'm not optimistic

 

[freddfish]

Read an article on leafly.com that seemed to see it as a easy win, due to the bipartisan support it has.

I sure hope so.

 

[bluto392]

Who knows? If Obama supports it, it could be doomed. The House is full of crazy people. Jaysus may speak to the tea baggers in those and they may vote it down.

 

[freddfish]

Who knows? If Obama supports it, it could be doomed. The House is full of crazy people. Jaysus may speak to the tea baggers in those and they may vote it down.

There are lots of TEA Partiers (Taxed Enough Already) that are stone libertarians, like me, and who favor local govt over distant and unresponsive federal... AND complete legalization.

Don't believe everything the media tells you about the tea party folks.

 

[freddfish]

My fear is that a member of either party will attach a rider to the bill that the other side won't accept...thus killing it cleanly, and without anyone in the Senate having to make a stand.

That way, they can continue to get Big Pharma money.

 

[StonedAgeTimeTraveler]

There are lots of TEA Partiers (Taxed Enough Already) that are stone libertarians, like me, and who favor local govt over distant and unresponsive federal... AND complete legalization.

Don't believe everything the media tells you about the tea party folks.

The TEA Party does have it's share of nutjobs, and some hard-core conservative/libertarians that I don't always agree with, but this statement is very true.

Texas currently has a bill (HB2165) proposed and being discussed that would strike marijuana from the state's criminal law statutes COMPLETELY. Not regulate, or decriminalize, just fully remove it and treat it like any other crop/produce.

The man proposing it? A Republican and TEA Party member who's definitely a religious libertarian. Believe it or not, while the left (traditional MJ allies) may have a lot of issues and reasons to butt heads with the right, and the TEA Party in particular, they are surprise allies in the fight to legalize marijuana. Revenue from legal sales speaks to their desire to lower taxes, and the legalization aspect speaks to their desire for personal freedom and smaller government.

 

[bluto392]

I'm listening to a Cannabis Radio show, and it sounds as if the senate bill would hand medical marijuana to Big Pharma so it can produce non psycho active medications. Their understanding is that a schedule two designation would mean all MMJ products would have to go through a pharmacist and meet pharmaceutical standards.

If this is the case, I'm hoping it won't pass. I understand there are health benefits, but let's be honest. MMJ is the foot in the door for recreational legalization. If this bill goes through, we'll lose a lot of impetus for full legalization- lawmakers will be able to say they've made available the health benefits of pot with a straight face. In other words, it'll give them cover to not make rec use legal

 

[freddfish]

The TEA Party does have it's share of nutjobs, and some hard-core conservative/libertarians that I don't always agree with, but this statement is very true.

Texas currently has a bill (HB2165) proposed and being discussed that would strike marijuana from the state's criminal law statutes COMPLETELY. Not regulate, or decriminalize, just fully remove it and treat it like any other crop/produce.

The man proposing it? A Republican and TEA Party member who's definitely a religious libertarian. Believe it or not, while the left (traditional MJ allies) may have a lot of issues and reasons to butt heads with the right, and the TEA Party in particular, they are surprise allies in the fight to legalize marijuana. Revenue from legal sales speaks to their desire to lower taxes, and the legalization aspect speaks to their desire for personal freedom and smaller government.

Bear in mind too that a lot of left folks are freedom hating nanny staters, who don't believe that citizens can be trusted with making their own personal choices.

Not all, mind you... But definitely a significant number.

Trust me on this one...MD is infested with them.

 

[freddfish]

I'm listening to a Cannabis Radio show, and it sounds as if the senate bill would hand medical marijuana to Big Pharma so it can produce non psycho active medications. Their understanding is that a schedule two designation would mean all MMJ products would have to go through a pharmacist and meet pharmaceutical standards.

If this is the case, I'm hoping it won't pass. I understand there are health benefits, but let's be honest. MMJ is the foot in the door for recreational legalization. If this bill goes through, we'll lose a lot of impetus for full legalization- lawmakers will be able to say they've made available the health benefits of pot with a straight face. In other words, it'll give them cover to not make rec use legal

I just look at the whole thing as baby steps towards legalization. CO really let the cat out of the bag. Other states and the feds are going to HAVE to follow along...

 

[UncleBuck]

There are lots of TEA Partiers (Taxed Enough Already) that are stone libertarians, like me, and who favor local govt over distant and unresponsive federal... AND complete legalization.

Don't believe everything the media tells you about the tea party folks.

sorry, i've checked out what the tea party has to say on their own websites.

they are racist evangelical douchebags who are more interested in establishing christian sharia law than following the constitution.

'libertarian' is the name an embarrassed republican gives himself, nothing else.

you don't fool anyone.

 

[UncleBuck]

left folks are freedom hating nanny staters, who don't believe that citizens can be trusted with making their own personal choices.

so i assume then that the tea party folks have dumped their misogyny and want to allow women to make choices concerning their own bodies with respect to birth control and abortion then?

yeah, thought not.

stop ascribing to others the values which you hold so dearly.

 

[AZgreenthumb]

I sure hope they are able to push it through this bill would solve a lot of current problems it would finally allow banks to do buisness with people in the marijuana industry and also reclassify marijuana from a schedule 1 to a schedule 2 drug I am not too optimistic though traditionally bills like this in the past have gone no where but mabey with marijuana being legal in 4 states now. The federal goverment is finally waking up!

 

[freddfish]

I sure hope they are able to push it through this bill would solve a lot of current problems it would finally allow banks to do buisness with people in the marijuana industry and also reclassify marijuana from a schedule 1 to a schedule 2 drug I am not too optimistic though traditionally bills like this in the past have gone no where but mabey with marijuana being legal in 4 states now. The federal goverment is finally waking up!

I agree with your hopes on this, but I kinda think that it will take more than 4 states and public opinion to sway these tax fattened hyenas in Congress. There is just too much money in keeping prohibition going.

The libertarian in me wants to hear the sweet sound of the freedom bell ringing.. But I'm not holding my breath.

Here's hoping though...

 

[freddfish]

Problem is... the only weapon the people have is the weight of public opinion.

Against them is Big Pharma, the law enforcement industry, private prison industry, the illegal big growers, the drug cartels, the religious lobby, the nanny staters...all of which throw around huge amounts of cash.

THAT is what we are up against...

 

[UncleBuck]

Problem is... the only weapon the people have is the weight of public opinion.

Against them is Big Pharma, the law enforcement industry, private prison industry, the illegal big growers, the drug cartels, the religious lobby, the nanny staters...all of which throw around huge amounts of cash.

THAT is what we are up against...

ya mean nanny staters like the tea partiers, who are opposed to legalization by large, large margins?



http://reason.com/poll/2012/11/14/73-percent-of-americans-think-medical-ma

or the religious nuts in the tea party who want to establish christianity as the official state religion, first amendment be damned?



http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_National_22415.pdf

you really need to stop spewing this nonsense. we already have enough deluded racist wingnuts spewing it on this forum.

 

[freddfish]

I'm listening to a Cannabis Radio show, and it sounds as if the senate bill would hand medical marijuana to Big Pharma so it can produce non psycho active medications. Their understanding is that a schedule two designation would mean all MMJ products would have to go through a pharmacist and meet pharmaceutical standards.

If this is the case, I'm hoping it won't pass. I understand there are health benefits, but let's be honest. MMJ is the foot in the door for recreational legalization. If this bill goes through, we'll lose a lot of impetus for full legalization- lawmakers will be able to say they've made available the health benefits of pot with a straight face. In other words, it'll give them cover to not make rec use legal

BTW, bluto....what is a cannabis radio show? Is this a youtube thing, an actual radio show, or a podcast somewhere, or video off a specific website? If possible, I would like to check it out.

Reason I ask, I would like to keep up with this bill as it makes it's way through the Senate.....but it seems that there is not too much publicity on this in the media. I have been listening to the political reprting on NPR lately, and I haven't heard them mention it. Not even once.

Of course, it doesn't take much to spike a story...all you need is for a few editors and program directors to decide that it isn't "newsworthy" and it becomes a non-issue. And given the number (and size) of the toes that this bill will be stepping on, it would almost figure if someone WAS trying to keep it out of the peoples eyesite. I usually watch the talking heads shows on Sunday AM.... it will be interesting to see if it gets any traction there this week.

 

[overgrowem]

BTW, bluto....what is a cannabis radio show? Is this a youtube thing, an actual radio show, or a podcast somewhere, or video off a specific website? If possible, I would like to check it out.

Reason I ask, I would like to keep up with this bill as it makes it's way through the Senate.....but it seems that there is not too much publicity on this in the media. I have been listening to the political reprting on NPR lately, and I haven't heard them mention it. Not even once.

Of course, it doesn't take much to spike a story...all you need is for a few editors and program directors to decide that it isn't "newsworthy" and it becomes a non-issue. And given the number (and size) of the toes that this bill will be stepping on, it would almost figure if someone WAS trying to keep it out of the peoples eyesite. I usually watch the talking heads shows on Sunday AM.... it will be interesting to see if it gets any traction there this week.

Russ Bellvil has a decent little radio show. He stays current ,takes on anyone, and I hope, is growing his audience.

 

[freddfish]

Russ Bellvil has a decent little radio show. He stays current ,takes on anyone, and I hope, is growing his audience.

Hey, thanks! Found it with no problem....it is too early in the AM to start listening to them, but I got it bookmarked. Looks like there might be a lot of good content.

 

[overgrowem]

Hey, thanks! Found it with no problem....it is too early in the AM to start listening to them, but I got it bookmarked. Looks like there might be a lot of good content.

Not every show is great, but all in all, he is worth supporting. He has a very good memory and when he debates a drug warrior, at any level, from Sabet to a Faux News clown shoe (thanks to whoever I stole that from), he slaps down their canned, Devil's Lettuce babble and makes them look like the village idiot. P.S.Russ may have more than 1 site If U aren't getting what U expect look for another site under the same name....

 

[bluto392]

Cannabis Network Radio podcasts. This discussion was in the latest THC show I believe