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[Rob Roy]

yes i have, i have stated repeatedly that CHILDREN CAN NOT CONSENT.

you and NAMBLA have argued otherwise.

pedophiles appreciate your support, no doubt.

No, you said children can consent in your turkey sandwich trade example.

I then asked you in a broader sense how the nature of an act, even if its reprehensible can mean the participants didn't consent.

You never answered that and began with your usual games.

 

[UncleBuck]

No, you said children can consent

please quote the post where i, like you, stated that children can somehow consent to being paid by an adult to have sex.

you and harrekin are the only ones saying children can consent to being paid for sex.

 

[Rob Roy]

please quote the post where i, like you, stated that children can somehow consent to being paid by an adult to have sex.

you and harrekin are the only ones saying children can consent to being paid for sex.

Wrong question and designed to derail. Nice try though.

You, on one hand said children can consent to some things, but then on the other said they can't consent to things we both have stated we find reprehensible. You failed to offer any reasoning for that contradiction. You have espoused two opposing points of view, the onus is one you to pick one.

Can a child consent to anything? You said they could . Can a child consent to anything reprehensible ? You never answered that.

 

[UncleBuck]

Wrong question and designed to derail. Nice try though.

You, on hand said children can consent to some things, but then on the other said they can't consent to things we both have stated we find reprehensible. You failed to offer any reasoning for that contradiction. You have espoused two opposing points of view, the onus is one you to pick one.

Can a child consent to anything? You said they could . Can a child consent to anything reprehensible ? You never answered that.

give it up, spaMBLA.

children can not consent to sex, much less being paid for sex by an adult like you, no matter how many times you and harrekin argue that they can.

 

[Rob Roy]

give it up, spaMBLA.

children can not consent to sex, much less being paid for sex by an adult like you, no matter how many times you and harrekin argue that they can.

I've heard you state that. Thanks for being clear on that Mr. Conflate the Argument.

I never heard you answer my question though, if the nature of an act, even if it is reprehensible, can change whether or not the participants consented to it ?

Why are you afraid to answer that simple question ?

Also, when I was a young teen, a female older than me jumped my bones with my full consent. So, I'd say in that situation it wasn't reprehensible, it was pretty cool, it might have even been the best 3 seconds of my life up until then. Was I a child then? How did I not consent, in that instance?

Were you a child of 17 when you consented to a reprehensible act at Wendy's in the doo doo incident? Or did the nature of the act mean somebody must have forced you to drop a pile of steaming dung on somebody else property?

 

[UncleBuck]

...the nature of an act, even if it is reprehensible, can change whether or not the participants consented to it ?

Why are you afraid to answer that simple question ?

i've actually answered this many times, but for some reason, the phrase does not register with you.

children cannot consent to sex.

why do you refuse to understand that children cannot consent to be paid by adults for sex?

 

[Rob Roy]

i've actually answered this many times, but for some reason, the phrase does not register with you.

children cannot consent to sex.

why do you refuse to understand that children cannot consent to be paid by adults for sex?

Don't get hostile dung beetle, just take a deep breath and realize a person you refer to as a dunce has you all tangled up.

Actually, to be truthful you've never answered the question either. How does an act even if it was reprehensible change whether it was consented to or not?

How does payment for something change whether an act was consented to or not?

As a young teen, I consented to an older female. She had large breasts, but didn't give me any money or candy, but it was so good I went back for more. Are you saying that she was really a figment of my imagination and really just a turkey sandwich?

 

[abandonconflict]

i've actually answered this many times, but for some reason, the phrase does not register with you.

children cannot consent to sex.

why do you refuse to understand that children cannot consent to be paid by adults for sex?

Actually, to be truthful you've never answered the question either. How does an act even if it was reprehensible change whether it was consented to or not?

How does payment for something change whether an act was consented to or not?

Buck, he has like a mental blockage against logic. It is simply impossible for him to ever be rehabilitated from his belief that pedophilia is consensual.

 

[abandonconflict]

Can anybody own anything, which limits would you put on what can and cannot be owned?

You should ask a lawyer. I'm sure that they would suggest that you pay your property tax. They might also point out to you that pedophilia is not consensual.

 

[UncleBuck]

How does an act even if it was reprehensible change whether it was consented to or not?

How does payment for something change whether an act was consented to or not?

children cannot consent to sex with adults, spaMBLA.

 

[skunkd0c]

Actually, to be truthful you've never answered the question either. How does an act even if it was reprehensible change whether it was consented to or not?
How does payment for something change whether an act was consented to or not?

As a young teen, I consented to an older female. She had large breasts, but didn't give me any money or candy, but it was so good I went back for more. Are you saying that she was really a figment of my imagination and really just a turkey sandwich?

its an interesting point ^^, what about the age of criminal responsibility?, which varies from country to country
in the UK its 10 years old, so a 10 year old child could be charged and tried and convicted in an adult court for murder

it seems a bit of a double standard that a 10 year old child could be treated as an adult even under these (reprehensible conditions)
it seems under the law a child is free to act as an adult and commit murder the punishment is to be treated as an adult
but a child can't make the free choice to engage in sex with an adult, the child will always be the "victim" in this scenario, even if the child is a convicted murderer too lol

 

[Rob Roy]

its an interesting point ^^, what about the age of criminal responsibility?, which varies from country to country
in the UK its 10 years old, so a 10 year old child could be charged and tried and convicted in an adult court for murder

it seems a bit of a double standard that a 10 year old child could be treated as an adult even under these (reprehensible conditions)
it seems under the law a child is free to act as an adult and commit murder the punishment is to be treated as an adult
but a child can't make the free choice to engage in sex with an adult, the child will always be the "victim" in this scenario, even if the child is a convicted murderer too lol

Thank you for engaging in the discussion without a bunch of false allegations and bullshit. It is appreciated.

 

[UncleBuck]

it seems under the law a child is free to act as an adult and commit murder the punishment is to be treated as an adult
but a child can't make the free choice to engage in sex with an adult, the child will always be the "victim" in this scenario, even if the child is a convicted murderer too lol

why would you refer to the target of pedophilia as a "victim" rather than a victim?

 

[UncleBuck]

false allegations and bullshit

no one is forcing you to continue defending pedophilia, spaMBLA.

 

[Rob Roy]

Buck, he has like a mental blockage against logic. It is simply impossible for him to ever be rehabilitated from his belief that pedophilia is consensual.

I didn't say it was a given that any act is automatically consensual or not. I think you are nearly as bad at conflating arguments as your buddy Uncle Buck, but he's better with the crayons.

Of course courts often try "children" for crimes of murder and say they had the ability to reason there. Can children consent to murder?
Isn't murder reprehensible? How can courts find children guilty of murder ? Which age is the one you consider children capable of knowingly murdering somebody?

Which age did you become responsible for yourself and cease being a child...oh wait....never mind.

 

[UncleBuck]

I've never defended the act

you continue to say that pedophilia is consensual even if it's reprehensible.

that is you continuing to defend pedophilia.

 

[Harrekin]

Why does abandonbuckflict keep replying to his own accounts?

Kinda sad, dude.

 

[schuylaar]

its an interesting point ^^, what about the age of criminal responsibility?, which varies from country to country
in the UK its 10 years old, so a 10 year old child could be charged and tried and convicted in an adult court for murder

it seems a bit of a double standard that a 10 year old child could be treated as an adult even under these (reprehensible conditions)
it seems under the law a child is free to act as an adult and commit murder the punishment is to be treated as an adult
but a child can't make the free choice to engage in sex with an adult, the child will always be the "victim" in this scenario, even if the child is a convicted murderer too lol

kinda like being old enough to go to war, yet not to vote or drink liquor.

 

[schuylaar]

Why does abandonbuckflict keep replying to his own accounts?

Kinda sad, dude.

bucky doesn't use a sock..he enjoys us knowing it's him.

 

[skunkd0c]

Thank you for engaging in the discussion without a bunch of false allegations and bullshit. It is appreciated.

You can't really expect anything else other than false dichotomy/trolling from the likes of buckypoo / similar imbeciles

i can see the angle you are running with, to acutely define "consent" etc
i personally see it as something that ties in with the blame game / responsibility / choice / victims / perps

if you look at the Nuremberg type defense ( i was only following orders, or committing a crime while acting under duress/ fear for own life)
this type of defense attempts to take away the freedom of choice/responsibility of actions from an adult for the purpose of defending them against a criminal charge
again with diminished capacity on mental health grounds
other than these types ^^ of situations all adults are considered responsible for their own actions and fully accountable to the law
any contract they "consent to" is their responsibility to read the small print etc, adults are fully accountable for their actions

children are said to be "innocent" under the law and can't be held fully liable for any contract/consent they give etc
although in the case of children this changes with criminal law (even though they are children the adult world still feels the need to attach "blame" to the child)
it is not the child's responsibility to read the small print , therefore a child can't give consent the same way an adult can give consent

i see the point you are making about "force" a pedophile may not require the use of physical force against their victim
still this does not change the fact that a child is not required to fully "comprehend"/ consent like an adult would be
so any consent a child would give could be classified as "null and void" simply because they are a child and are not legally required to understand sexual consent
although a child is required to know the "difference between right and wrong" at the age of 10 , hence a child of 10 can be held fully accountable for their own criminal actions
as i said before i find this contradictory, it would appear the law is saying children are not 100% innocent , they are innocent in certain circumstances but not others
for example a 10 year old would have the mental capacity and understanding to commit premeditated murder
but a 10 year old does not have the mental capacity and understanding to consent to sex

so i would ask, how does the mental capacity of a 10 year old child change depending on weather the child is the victim or the perp of a crime ?
surely it should be the same, children should be "protected from adults" and adult responsibility weather they are victims or perps under the law