greenghost420
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out of two blue tara seeds this was the female.
Maybe you need some of the American guys to come down there and teach you Dutchies how to pollen chuck?
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st0wandgrow
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I'm not full of myself. Just calling you what you are. Biased. Good grower, but very biased.
What would your response be if someone started a thread like this on Gage? "Great thread"?? lol
edit: Yes, price matters. Of course it isn't any indication on how good a strain or company is. If that were the case Gage would be on top. But they're not. I would have gotten more satisfaction from wiping my arse with $125 I spent on the pile of crap I got from them. Why does Gage feel they need to charge $125 when Bodhi charges $70? Are their seeds better? More expensive to produce? Or are they just greedy?
Freebies are nice too. Find me one person that doesn't base their purchases off of what type of freebies they will get, and I'll find you 100 that do.
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greenghost420
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i started a thread bout the shadyness of keyplay, he hopped on n hated.....hes biased like a mofo! called me a hater even though he admitted " the infos there for anyone to read if they want"....but yea im a hater....lol
genuity
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Yes,it would be a great thread....put together a lot of good information....not some random hate.
Show me this bias....you are too full of your self,is this about GGG or me?
greenghost420
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DUTCH SEED COMPANIES
During the early 1980s, several marijuana seed companies appeared in the Netherlands, where cultivation of Cannabis for seed production and the sale of seeds were tolerated. Political pressure on marijuana growers in North America forced the thrust of progress in sinsemilla breeding to the Netherlands, where the political climate was much less threatening. For North American and European growers, this meant continued availability of exotic high-quality marijuana seeds.
Almost all of the Dutch varieties contain germ plasm from one or more of the founding genetic building blocks brought from North America. Cultivars such as Original Haze, Hindu Kush, Afghani No. 1, and Skunk No. 1 were established in California before their seeds were taken to the Netherlands in the early 1980s. As these cultivars were relatively stable seed varieties, breeders had a greater chance of selecting a favorable male plant as a pollen source for breeding. Cultivars such as Northern Lights, Big Bud, Hash Plant, and G-13 went to the Netherlands from the Pacific Northwest as rooted female cuttings. There were never males of these varieties, and, therefore, commercial seeds were all made by crosses with a male of a different variety such as Skunk No. 1, or more rarely by masculinizing a female cutting to produce pollen for self-pollinating.
Durban PoisonWhen connoisseurs of North American sinsemilla comment that ?All the Dutch varieties seem the same,? this should come as no surprise, since Dutch varieties share so much of their heritage. Of the nearly 150 varieties offered for sale by Dutch seed companies in 2000, 80 percent of them contain germ plasm that first came to the Netherlands prior to 1985. Most of the seed companies have continued to reshuffle the heavily stacked deck of original North American germ plasm, and since the 1980s few companies have introduced anything new
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4721.html
During the early 1980s, several marijuana seed companies appeared in the Netherlands, where cultivation of Cannabis for seed production and the sale of seeds were tolerated. Political pressure on marijuana growers in North America forced the thrust of progress in sinsemilla breeding to the Netherlands, where the political climate was much less threatening. For North American and European growers, this meant continued availability of exotic high-quality marijuana seeds.
Almost all of the Dutch varieties contain germ plasm from one or more of the founding genetic building blocks brought from North America. Cultivars such as Original Haze, Hindu Kush, Afghani No. 1, and Skunk No. 1 were established in California before their seeds were taken to the Netherlands in the early 1980s. As these cultivars were relatively stable seed varieties, breeders had a greater chance of selecting a favorable male plant as a pollen source for breeding. Cultivars such as Northern Lights, Big Bud, Hash Plant, and G-13 went to the Netherlands from the Pacific Northwest as rooted female cuttings. There were never males of these varieties, and, therefore, commercial seeds were all made by crosses with a male of a different variety such as Skunk No. 1, or more rarely by masculinizing a female cutting to produce pollen for self-pollinating.
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4721.html
Sativied
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And after decades of selecting and breeding turned into the highly potent stable indoor varieties that in the US are now used to pollen chuck up the gene pool at a rate never seen before. Over 30 years of work, slowly increasing yields, decreasing flowering time, increase potency, increase bud rot and pm resistance, HPS resistance, adding variety in qualitative characters, doing the actual work with some dignity, from which pocket fillers profit today.
Indeed, "germ plasm" and cultivars....
The breeders who deserve credit for that are no longer active, or moved to Amsterdam. The pollen chuckers today put those people to shame. Ever grown O Haze?
Any idea why SSH is so popular?Bodhi is obviously all about filling pockets and not about introducing new strains, only a complete retard doesn't get that. Might as well buy from GHS...
Sounds like a Barcelona fan doing a review about their social clubs. The irony is that it only makes the pollen chucks based on all those blend varieties only worse... Some nationalistic USA fan ironically accusing dutch breeders of not introducing anything new while they use those dutch breeder's gear x bag seed x pollen chuck x nothing but inbred hype.
Breeder's in the US and Spain would have far less to chuck without the work of actual breeders in the Netherlands. Without them most of you'd still be smoking "grass" instead of frosty nuggets.
Hilarious though, can't breed for real so ends up creating more new varieties... yeah doh...
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st0wandgrow
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And after decades of selecting and breeding turned into the highly potent stable indoor varieties that in the US are now used to pollen chuck up the gene pool at a rate never seen before. Over 30 years of work, slowly increasing yields, decreasing flowering time, increase potency, increase bud rot and pm resistance, HPS resistance, adding variety in qualitative characters, doing the actual work with some dignity, from which pocket fillers profit today.
Indeed, "germ plasm" and cultivars....
Ever grown O Haze?
Bodhi is obviously all about filling pockets and not about introducing new strains, only a complete retard doesn't get that. Might as well buy from GHS...
Sounds like a Barcelona fan doing a review about their social clubs. The irony is that it only makes the pollen chucks based on all those blend varieties only worse... Some nationalistic USA fan ironically accusing dutch breeders of not introducing anything new while they use those dutch breeder's gear x bag seed x pollen chuck x nothing but inbred hype.
Breeder's in the US and Spain would have far less to chuck without the work of actual breeders in the Netherlands. Without them most of you'd still be smoking "grass" instead of frosty nuggets.
Hilarious though, can't breed for real so ends up creating more new varieties... yeah doh...
So which Dutch breeders would you recommend?
OGEvilgenius
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The line is cast, the bait is set.
BadInfluence
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Oh dear. So much negativity here.... why does everybody hate dutch breeders?
You should be "glad" that only Holland and Spain are really in the european business. If it were legal in other parts of Europe like Austria, Germany, France and the whole eastern part you could expect "new" great stuff very soon. And of course these people would start with some existing stuff collected from all over the planet.
So don't buy from dutch breeders if you don't like them but you should still be glad that they're there. I don't want to imagine where we would be without Sensi Seeds to just name one.
Yeah, the names of some of these strains kinda give it away, true american heritage, clearly. Know what? i bet if you dig deep enough you will find out that ALL the weed seeds available out there come from a handful of landraces or heirlooms. Who gives a shit where they were crossed? This usually happens where people don't get arrested for growing.
You should be "glad" that only Holland and Spain are really in the european business. If it were legal in other parts of Europe like Austria, Germany, France and the whole eastern part you could expect "new" great stuff very soon. And of course these people would start with some existing stuff collected from all over the planet.
So don't buy from dutch breeders if you don't like them but you should still be glad that they're there. I don't want to imagine where we would be without Sensi Seeds to just name one.
Mr.Head
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Personally don't hate dutch breeders, think it's ridiculous to act like they behave any different then the American breeders. Plenty of flavour of the month crosses coming out of Euro breeders, it just takes them longer to get the original cuts
Had plenty of respect for Sativied but his recent troll jobs.... losing some of it man.
COGrown
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You'd be better off slinging mud against a breeder who doesn't put the effort into selection and testing that bodhi does. And you're definitely calling the wrong guy greedy. B has sent people on this board and others plenty of beans that were not available for sale for free just because they wanted them, and he could also charge much more for his work than he does.
I think the real question here is what exactly are you trying to get at?
OGEvilgenius
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There's great cannabis coming from all over the globe.
coppershot
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lol Dutch "breeders"
you seem like a good guy who recently is enjoying some trolling and having a laugh. I actually think that your last couple of threads were funny. I hope that it is not legitimate hate cause the Dutch are not on top of the game, likely not even in the top 3 anymore... you do kinda seem bitter about that... just smoke a spliff and chill, who cares...
edit - there is only a couple of dutch breeders that I would consider, Karma being one that is def doing it right! so big him up.
you seem like a good guy who recently is enjoying some trolling and having a laugh. I actually think that your last couple of threads were funny. I hope that it is not legitimate hate cause the Dutch are not on top of the game, likely not even in the top 3 anymore... you do kinda seem bitter about that... just smoke a spliff and chill, who cares...
edit - there is only a couple of dutch breeders that I would consider, Karma being one that is def doing it right! so big him up.
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BDOGKush
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And Sensi Seeds own website talks about how Ben Dronkers used gene stock from the USA to create hybrids.
BDOGKush
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"In the early Eighties, the first examples of innovative, stabilised hybrids from the US were arriving in Europe. Ben was able to obtain these original genetics – including Haze and Skunk – making Sensi’s founder one of only three Dutch grower-breeders who had access to this first wave of US hybrids. The new genetics further strengthened and expanded the gene-libraries of all three breeders and also served as excellent templates for the cross-breeding process. In many ways, this influx of new genetic material was the final step required for the creation of new, world-class hybrids in Europe."
http://sensiseeds.com/en/blog/about-sensi-seeds/history-of-sensi-seeds/sensi-seeds-cannabis-breeding-history-part-one/
http://sensiseeds.com/en/blog/about-sensi-seeds/history-of-sensi-seeds/sensi-seeds-cannabis-breeding-history-part-one/
coppershot
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littlegiant
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Really nice to hear that ! Have 2 packs and have not heard much on this strain.
greenghost420
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im not hating nor did i say i hate anything dutch! just posting shit i read. could be fake , never know on the net...
thump easy
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Wow Lolz I used infinate uforia with xxx cookies .. It turned out nice infinite cookies.this thread is a some does this mean a battle????